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Crib Goch

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:21 pm

Anyone done this Snowdon route around this time of year?

Doing Snowdon next weekend. But wondering if anyone had done Crib Goch outside of summer? Meant to snow Thursday so suspect that may make the decision for us anyway...

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Re: Crib Goch

Postby bfcjg » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:49 pm

I take the train.
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Re: Crib Goch

Postby Claret » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:51 pm

Are you mad? Mountains? Are you mad? Noooooo way.

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Re: Crib Goch

Postby lifelongclaret » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:57 pm

I have done it, only once thou, it’s certainly a nerve test, it makes striding edge look like a walk in the park, on at least one occasion I was on my hands and knees, but last year when I visited Everest base camp I did doubt my sanity

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Re: Crib Goch

Postby Bosscat » Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:31 pm

Take skis with you its gonna snow

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Re: Crib Goch

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:32 pm

lifelongclaret wrote:I have done it, only once thou, it’s certainly a nerve test, it makes striding edge look like a walk in the park, on at least one occasion I was on my hands and knees, but last year when I visited Everest base camp I did doubt my sanity


I went up a couple of years ago but conditions weren't great and I only had trainers on. So made the sensible decision to drop down before the 'point of no return'. Only problem was my mates had already got past that bit. So I walked down to the bottom, started again and up the Pyg Track. I got to the top. None of my mates to be seen. Was convinced they had either managed to find their way down... or fell!

2 hours later they made it to the top just as I was about to send the search party :lol: :lol: :lol:

Thinking it may be a bit too wet / windy this weekend at this time of year?

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Re: Crib Goch

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:32 pm

Bosscat wrote:Take skis with you its gonna snow

I did read that for Thursday!

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Re: Crib Goch

Postby evensteadiereddie » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:21 am

I've done it several times with one of the worst - in terms of conditions - in the middle of Summer when it was misty, windy, wet and very cold. Luckily we were prepared and in full battle-gear and, on hands and knees across the edge, got away with it.
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Re: Crib Goch

Postby Dark Cloud » Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:02 am

I've done Crib Goch many moons ago and then across the narrow ridge onto Snowdon. It's not at all easy and was very misty when I was up there. The Army were actually coming down and advised us against carrying on, but we ignored them and carried on as what do they know?
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Re: Crib Goch

Postby CaptJohn » Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:15 am

If it's going to snow I wouldn't try it. A bit dodgy at the best of times but not in snow :shock:

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Re: Crib Goch

Postby Caernarfon_Claret » Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:32 am

Come down anyway. If the weather's too much you could always go up mynydd mawr or traverse the Nantlle ridge.

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Re: Crib Goch

Postby dougcollins » Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:30 pm

I prefer Llap Goch.

http://www.llapgoch.org.uk
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Re: Crib Goch

Postby Dark Cloud » Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:41 pm

dougcollins wrote:I prefer Llap Goch.

http://www.llapgoch.org.uk

I'm absolutely p*****g myself!

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Re: Crib Goch

Postby Lancasterclaret » Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:08 pm

Never done it, but I've seen it from doing Snowdon via the Miners track.

Surely weather dependent?

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Re: Crib Goch

Postby Suratclaret » Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:19 pm

I've been up Crib Goch in all types of weather with the worst experience being in summer when the clouds suddenly dropped and it rained so hard it was almost impossible to see anything.( I wear glasses which didn't help). What made it worse was being behind a group who were dressed more for a stroll in the park than attempting one of the most difficult walks in Snowdonia. That experience was far worse than in winter when everyone was properly equipped.
The weather can change in an instant - and frequently does in that part of the world so everyone should be properly and adequately equipped unless you want to possibly become a mountain rescue statistic. If in doubt don't set off!

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Re: Crib Goch

Postby evensteadiereddie » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:11 pm

dougcollins wrote:I prefer Llap Goch.

http://www.llapgoch.org.uk


Did Ringo write that stuff ? All it needed was a few :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Crib Goch

Postby Longsider » Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:36 pm

Yes, done it a couple of times. Worst was once came off the top and down Crib. Got to the really hairy bit and it started to thunder and lightning. Lightning crashing all around me. Absolutely sh@t myself. Good luck you'll be right. :lol:

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Re: Crib Goch

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:19 pm

Suratclaret wrote:I've been up Crib Goch in all types of weather with the worst experience being in summer when the clouds suddenly dropped and it rained so hard it was almost impossible to see anything.( I wear glasses which didn't help). What made it worse was being behind a group who were dressed more for a stroll in the park than attempting one of the most difficult walks in Snowdonia. That experience was far worse than in winter when everyone was properly equipped.
The weather can change in an instant - and frequently does in that part of the world so everyone should be properly and adequately equipped unless you want to possibly become a mountain rescue statistic. If in doubt don't set off!

Sounds similar to our first experience of sca fell pike. We did the 3 peaks. Ben nevis complete blue skies zero wind. Views for miles.

Snowdon was clear and calm.

Sca fell horrendous. Couldnt see your hand in front of your face and nearly walked off the edge.

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Re: Crib Goch

Postby Guppyspotter » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:23 pm

It's fine in the depths of winter. Rope up and take it easy. take decent gear and crampons/axes. Overkill maybe but better safe.

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Re: Crib Goch

Postby Tricky Trevor » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:38 pm

I’ve summitted Snowdon 5 times, from 3 different directions, but never done Crib Goch. Never had a view from the summit either.
To anyone who knows, is it easier or harder than Glencoes Aonach Eagach?

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Re: Crib Goch

Postby Guppyspotter » Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:37 pm

Not me

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Re: Crib Goch

Postby evensteadiereddie » Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:18 am

July, three years ago....
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It's a hell of a long way down each side of that ridge.

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Re: Crib Goch

Postby Longsider » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:39 am

Tricky Trevor wrote:I’ve summitted Snowdon 5 times, from 3 different directions, but never done Crib Goch. Never had a view from the summit either.
To anyone who knows, is it easier or harder than Glencoes Aonach Eagach?

Both are technical in places. I wouldn't say one is more difficult than the other. Aonach Eagach from memory was much longer though.
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Re: Crib Goch

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:43 pm

Well, its meant to snow from tomorrow onwards. So may be lakes instead...

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Re: Crib Goch

Postby evensteadiereddie » Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:44 pm

The circular Glaslyn walk is low but interesting.

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Re: Crib Goch

Postby BleedingClaret » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:04 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Sounds similar to our first experience of sca fell pike. We did the 3 peaks. Ben nevis complete blue skies zero wind. Views for miles.

Snowdon was clear and calm.

Sca fell horrendous. Couldnt see your hand in front of your face and nearly walked off the edge.


All were bad when i did it, and I didn't get a single view!
Snowden was horizontal sleet/hail and it was early summer I think.
Good Luck...

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Re: Crib Goch

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:09 pm

BleedingClaret wrote:All were bad when i did it, and I didn't get a single view!
Snowden was horizontal sleet/hail and it was early summer I think.
Good Luck...

Honestly couldn't have had a better day on Ben Nevis. could see for miles and not one cloud.

A friend who is a guide on Snowdon just text to say its snowed there today and is doing for the next few days.
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Re: Crib Goch

Postby lucs86 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:30 am

I did Crib Goch in March or April a few years ago as a practice for the Welsh 3000 in about June time. Thought I was going to die.
Weather wasn't that bad at the car park but the mountains were in the clouds. When we got into the clouds the wind was really howling and it was sleeting/snowing. We had walking gear on but not crampons/ropes etc, it's pretty difficult in places especially when you can't see too far and your little grippy grassy footholds are full of snow and slippy. The edges felt really steep and you couldn't see the bottom through the cloud (which was probably a good thing). Two or three times I lost grip and thought I was gone, it was ******* terrifying.
There was a group of about 10 of us, half were experienced and did a lot of climbing, it wasn't too bad for them. I was in the less experienced group and we were all pretty petrified by it.
Went back in June in good weather and it was great, challenging in bits but not too dangerous so you could enjoy it, views were brilliant.
If the weather's good then no worries, but I'd be nowhere near it in bad weather again, way too dangerous. Just do pyg run instead, or tryfan or glyder fach, amazing up there (although they could be terrible in bad weather too!)
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Re: Crib Goch

Postby Tricky Trevor » Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:47 am

Tryfan is a top day out. The Cannon, Adam & Eve summit, the Cantilever.
The last time I did we sat eating lunch with jets out of RAF Valley shooting through the Ogwen Valley below us.
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Re: Crib Goch

Postby Longside4evr » Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:39 am

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In the countryside, you’ll be following broad, packed-earth paths that are well sign posted, while in the villages and towns, the pavements are generally painted to show the way. This means you are free to set your own pace if you desire, taking time to enjoy the passing scenery or stopping for lunch or to explore for as long as you like in the village or towns en route, without the worry of keeping pace with the rest of the group.

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Your ‘Camino’ passport and certificate

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Re: Crib Goch

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:04 am

Longside4evr wrote:If your into your walking the terrains you must add this to your bucket list
Walking the 'Way of St James'
Follow the final, scenic 120-kilometre stretch of the 'Way of St James' through verdant Galicia, from Sarria to Santiago de Compostela Cathedral, entirely on foot. On this rewarding seven-night walking tour you’ll be free to set your own pace each day, taking in the pastoral scenery and quaint villages at leisure, whilst mingling with fellow walking enthusiasts and pilgrimage devotees from around the world. You’ll be accompanied by a local Camino expert who’ll point you in the right direction and help you gather stamps for your ‘Camino’ passport to earn your official certificate. To complete this authentic experience, round off each day with a comfortable stay in a mix of traditional guest-house style accommodation and hotels.

Including...
7 nights in hotels

14 meals: 7 breakfasts and 7 dinners

Water and wine with dinner
Optional travel insurance underwritten by Great Lakes Insurance SE, UK Branch and additional cancellation rights on overseas holidays for over 50s, or a price reduction if not required (cover is subject to medical questions)
Return flights and transfers
Official 'Camino' walking guide for the duration of the tour
Official guide in Santiago de Compostela
Porterage at all hotels
Entrance to Santiago de Compostela Cathedral
Itinerary



View Full Itinerary
Hotel Alfonso IX
DAY 1 UK to Santiago to Sarria
Royal crown texture, a monument in Sarria, Spain
Fly to Santiago de Compostela and transfer to Sarria for an overnight stay at the locally rated 4-star Hotel Alfonso IX. D


Pousada de Portomarin
DAY 2 Sarria to Portomarin
Complejo La Cabana
DAY 3 Portomarin to Palas de Rei
Hotel Vila Peregrina
DAY 4 Palas de Rei to Arzua
Hotel Bello
DAY 5 Arzua to Amenal
Hotel Gelmirez
DAY 6 Amenal to Santiago de Compostela
DAY 7 Santiago de Compostela
DAY 8 Santiago to UK
Reviews
What you can expect
What you can expect
Look forward to walking through the prettiest scenery along the 'Way of St James' as you follow the final stretch across the undulating Galician countryside. Walks each day will range between 20 and 30 kilometres over varied terrain with some steep up or downhill sections, therefore a good level of fitness is essential.

Well-marked trails

In the countryside, you’ll be following broad, packed-earth paths that are well sign posted, while in the villages and towns, the pavements are generally painted to show the way. This means you are free to set your own pace if you desire, taking time to enjoy the passing scenery or stopping for lunch or to explore for as long as you like in the village or towns en route, without the worry of keeping pace with the rest of the group.

We’ll take care of your luggage

You will require a light day back pack, to store water and any other items you wish to carry, such as a camera, waterproofs and sunscreen. You don’t have to worry about carrying your travel luggage though as this will transported between hotels by road each day for you.

Your ‘Camino’ passport and certificate

We will provide you with your pilgrimage passport although it is up to you to get it stamped at the various churches and official checkpoints along the way – your walking guide will advise you when and where you need to do this each day. The guide will also share fascinating insights about the 'Way of St James' throughout your walking tour with you.

Your accommodation

During your walking tour, you’ll stay at small and friendly local establishments that specialise in accommodating pilgrims following ‘The way of St James’. These small, relatively simple hotels offer the best accommodation available for walking groups en route, with a good standard of furnishings and all offer en suite bathrooms with showers.


The Santiago Trail
Spain
from £999 per person 7 2
Including optional travel insurance or a price reduction of £20 if not required
Spain
The Santiago Trail
Climate
Average temperature
Max
Min

I am indeed. Thanks a lot. Funnily enough recently updated my bucket list. Plenty of walks on there. So one to consider. Thanks

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Re: Crib Goch

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:05 am

Text from the chap i know who guides up there.

So, there is deep snow at the top of Snowdon now and it's down as far as about 600m. However, the weather is really warning up again for the weekend and it will probably be slush by Saturday. In short, I think you'll need to assess the conditions when you arrive. The Crib might well be ok, freezing levels should be way above the summit but the weather is so changeable at the moment I think you'll just have to go with the flow.

Looks like Snowdon may be a bit pointless. As done it plenty of times and best thing is the view...

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Re: Crib Goch

Postby Loyalclaret » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:43 pm

Dogs on Crib Goch
Been looking at doing the horse shoe including Crib Coch when the weather warms up some, I take my sprocker spaniel out walking but wondered if it’s a bad idea with the length of the scramble?
He’s been up Scarfell via the circular route (and off the paths across the big boulder fields on top) and 3 Yorkshire peaks.

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Re: Crib Goch

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:02 pm

Loyalclaret wrote:Dogs on Crib Goch
Been looking at doing the horse shoe including Crib Coch when the weather warms up some, I take my sprocker spaniel out walking but wondered if it’s a bad idea with the length of the scramble?
He’s been up Scarfell via the circular route (and off the paths across the big boulder fields on top) and 3 Yorkshire peaks.

Wouldn't like to say yes. But I suspect they are probably better equipped than us! Problem is that it might impede you... Getting him up onto the ridge for a start would be a bit of effort!


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