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MOTD2

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:26 pm

Why not, eh! ;)

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Re: MOTD2

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:18 pm

That is hilarious how that goal stood for Chelsea. Crazy.

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Re: MOTD2

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:31 pm

Anagram competition

P A W S O N

Answer...

JOKE !!!

No wonder Colin is fuming!

2, 3, possibly 4 major decisions all wrong !

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Re: MOTD2

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:44 pm

RalphCoatesComb wrote:Anagram competition

P A W S O N

Answer...

JOKE !!!

No wonder Colin is fuming!

2, 3, possibly 4 major decisions all wrong !
BUT it all balances out. In a sense. Its not like we haven't had equal misfortune late in games. Wood at Watford, Uniteds 'Penalty' etc
even if it cost them 3 points today, refs cost us 4 in those two alone!

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Re: MOTD2

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:48 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:BUT it all balances out. In a sense. Its not like we haven't had equal misfortune late in games. Wood at Watford, Uniteds 'Penalty' etc
even if it cost them 3 points today, refs cost us 4 in those two alone!
Correct. But does it make it RIGHT??

I'd add Barnes v Sarfhampton and Taylor v Leicester to your list by the way.
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Re: MOTD2

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:50 pm

Think a yellow card was the right decision for the Rudiger incident. The offside was appalling, the two penalties should have been given but are often not.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:51 pm

RalphCoatesComb wrote:Correct. But does it make it RIGHT??

I'd add Barnes v Sarfhampton and Taylor v Leicester to your list by the way.
Barnes dived so I didn't count that one!

Cant remember Taylors. Was it a handball?

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Re: MOTD2

Post by tybfc » Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:21 am

I'll cry myself to sleep tonight seeing Warnock so upset.
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Re: MOTD2

Post by tim_noone » Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:24 am

I like Colin ....Great passion for the Game.
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Re: MOTD2

Post by Tricky Trevor » Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:49 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:BUT it all balances out. In a sense. Its not like we haven't had equal misfortune late in games. Wood at Watford, Uniteds 'Penalty' etc
even if it cost them 3 points today, refs cost us 4 in those two alone!
Get over the Utd pen. will you. Hendrick hooked his shoulder plain and simple. He went down a bit weird but it was still a pen.
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Re: MOTD2

Post by dsr » Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:43 am

Rileybobs wrote:Think a yellow card was the right decision for the Rudiger incident. The offside was appalling, the two penalties should have been given but are often not.
Three penalties, actually. Loftus-Cheek was clearly held later on. It was just as egregious (or as slight) an error as the two when the Cardiff players lost the use of their legs. There was also a clear hold on a Chelsea player in the first half at a corner. I suspect if you look closely at all the corners, the ref probably missed seven or eight clear penalties. (I wonder if VAR will follow the modern trend of saying that holding is a foul when the player dives, but isn't a foul when he doesn't?)

The offside was actually a difficult decision. What the commentators don't realise is that the linesman doesn't have access to the still photo. (At least, I assume they don't realise that, because they never say what an unfair comparison it is.)

What the lineman had to do was look along the line and see, 40 yards away, that there were two events. One, a Chelsea man headed the ball. Two, a Chelsea man came back from an offside position into an onside position. These two events were approx. one tenth of a second apart, and he had to decide which one came first.

Yes, he got it wrong, but only by a tenth of a second. Not by a country mile.
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Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:20 am

Its about time that these officiating teams that are consistently $hite on a game by game basis are suspended, three strikes and you are out of the elite group. As I've posted before there are a number of refs (and their officiating team) that you can guarantee will drop a bo!!ock.

These are...
Kevin Friend
Craig Pawson
Anthony Taylor
John Moss
Lee Mason

And to a lesser extent

Graham Scott
Micheal Oliver

If I can see it it makes you wonder what the hell POGMOL actually watch

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:23 am

dsr wrote:Three penalties, actually. Loftus-Cheek was clearly held later on. It was just as egregious (or as slight) an error as the two when the Cardiff players lost the use of their legs. There was also a clear hold on a Chelsea player in the first half at a corner. I suspect if you look closely at all the corners, the ref probably missed seven or eight clear penalties. (I wonder if VAR will follow the modern trend of saying that holding is a foul when the player dives, but isn't a foul when he doesn't?)

The offside was actually a difficult decision. What the commentators don't realise is that the linesman doesn't have access to the still photo. (At least, I assume they don't realise that, because they never say what an unfair comparison it is.)

What the lineman had to do was look along the line and see, 40 yards away, that there were two events. One, a Chelsea man headed the ball. Two, a Chelsea man came back from an offside position into an onside position. These two events were approx. one tenth of a second apart, and he had to decide which one came first.

Yes, he got it wrong, but only by a tenth of a second. Not by a country mile.
All that as well as the corner taker Willian blocking the view of the linesman. You can't give what you can't see.

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:31 am

THEWELLERNUT70 wrote:Its about time that these officiating teams that are consistently $hite on a game by game basis are suspended, three strikes and you are out of the elite group. As I've posted before there are a number of refs (and their officiating team) that you can guarantee will drop a bo!!ock.
If I can see it it makes you wonder what the hell POGMOL actually watch
I’d agree with all that the problem being there are very few of the standard required coming through to replace them. We need to import some top guys, although VAR has to help.
I'll be interested to see how all the grappling in the areas is handled once we have VAR.
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Post by Foulthrow » Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:24 pm

Did anyone else spot the 4th official at Anfield giving it a fist pump and a “Get in!” When Liverpool scored their winner? Unreal!

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Post by Rileybobs » Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:31 pm

Foulthrow wrote:Did anyone else spot the 4th official at Anfield giving it a fist pump and a “Get in!” When Liverpool scored their winner? Unreal!
Pretty sure that wasn't the 4th official.

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Re: MOTD2

Post by Spike » Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:34 pm

Cardiff should pay what they owe to The French Club then the football gods make look on them more favourably

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Re: MOTD2

Post by claretblue » Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:38 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Pretty sure that wasn't the 4th official.
the ref? :?

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Re: MOTD2

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:40 pm

claretblue wrote:the ref? :?
I saw a guy in a black jacket with the 'EA Sports' logo on fist pump at the final whistle but I'm pretty sure he was sat on Liverpool's bench.

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Re: MOTD2

Post by JamesSherbourne » Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:13 pm

Being suggested online that it was an “official” absolute disgrace if true

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Re: MOTD2

Post by Foulthrow » Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:21 pm

I’m sure he had the same coat on that the refs wear.

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Re: MOTD2

Post by simonclaret » Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:55 pm

Apparently the refs’ physio covering local game and evidently a Liverpool fan. Nothing to see.

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Re: MOTD2

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:14 pm

Anthony Taylor has questions marks over his "performance" again tonight I see

It's all too predictable

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Re: MOTD2

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:47 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:Get over the Utd pen. will you. Hendrick hooked his shoulder plain and simple. He went down a bit weird but it was still a pen.
Theres nothing to get over. It didn't wind me up at the time. I was more annoyed with our own inability to defend a 2 goal lead.

Just alluding to the point that like Cardiff, there have been times where we have suffered from bad decisions. And like all teams.

Its part of the game.

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Tue Apr 02, 2019 5:29 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Its part of the game.
It is but it shouldn’t be. Colin is right, far more often than not the dodgy calls go the way of the bigger club.

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Re: MOTD2

Post by Spijed » Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:42 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:It is but it shouldn’t be. Colin is right, far more often than not the dodgy calls go the way of the bigger club.
Warnock fails to mention that Cardiff scored the winning goal in the last minute against Brighton earlier this season when Sol Bamba was just about offside. Well, at least a couple of metres.

His comments afterwards "You win some, you lose some".

So no, Cardiff haven't been hard done by.
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Re: MOTD2

Post by Tricky Trevor » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:27 pm

Spijed wrote:Warnock fails to mention that Cardiff scored the winning goal in the last minute against Brighton.
So no, Cardiff haven't been hard done by.
In that instance there isn't a bigger club. They are doggy doodoo.

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Re: MOTD2

Post by Tricky Trevor » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:27 pm

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