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Always rated this lad, a good player in a weak team, head and shoulders above his teammates skill wise, he needs to be snapped up soon, alas the terriers will ask stupid money for him so cant see him at Turf Moor next season.
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I've been saying they'd ask silly money, but just been looking at when he signed and he's out of contract next summer, unless he's signed a new one recently.
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Good grafter and ability. Not so big though and we need some power in MF.
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Would be a massive upgrade on Cork.....get a bid in.
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He's a good footballer...but don't you think he's a little too samey to what we already have with Cork and Westwood'?
I think we need two CM's - one that is big, physical athlete and one that can make us play a bit more.
I think we need two CM's - one that is big, physical athlete and one that can make us play a bit more.
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He's an obvious potential signing, but I'm not sure if he's exactly the sort of presence we need to add in midfield. You can make an argument that we might be better off looking at Philip Billing, who is a lot younger and seems to be perceived by many observers as having the potential to be a better player - he's good technically and 6 foot 3.
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Mooy would be a great signing to compete with Westwood for that spot. He always wants the ball which could be a massive improvement to us.
But not at the expense of some pace and power in there, that's vital.
But not at the expense of some pace and power in there, that's vital.
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If I was signing anyone from Huddersfield it would be Billing
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Flatters to deceive imo. Can't remember ever watching him play and thinking that is exactly what we need. He's a big lad and he looks the part....but not sure how effective he is. Just my opinion.ClaretTony wrote:If I was signing anyone from Huddersfield it would be Billing
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It’s often when you see them. I remember watching Huddersfield a few times in their promotion season and they always seemed to reserve their worst performances for when I was watching.Jakubs Tash wrote:Flatters to deceive imo. Can't remember ever watching him play and thinking that is exactly what we need. He's a big lad and he looks the part....but not sure how effective he is. Just my opinion.
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Spot on Tony Billing is a good shout as is Shindler
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Hard to find a Hudders fan that rates Billing - that'll do for me get him signed
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But that's the point, isn't it? Our midfield is currently staffed two players who are respectable but not brilliant technically, and who more than punch their weight but are middleweights rather than heavyweights physically - but who within those limitations can be relied upon to deliver effective performances. Our choice is always going to be between that sort of player, or a player who is not that reliable, but who has greater gits (either technically, or physically, or both).Jakubs Tash wrote:Flatters to deceive imo. Can't remember ever watching him play and thinking that is exactly what we need. He's a big lad and he looks the part....but not sure how effective he is. Just my opinion.
Jeff Hendrick is the closest we have to the sort of complete, athletic midfield that most of us yearn for, but he's not exactly a fans favourite and it sort of demonstrates that what fans really want is someone who has a heady combination of physicality and athleticism combined with footballing ability and consistency. It's obviously not realistic for us to sign someone who has actually shown he can do all that in the Premier League, because those players cost fortunes in both transfer fees and wages that we don't have.
You might well be right about Billing - but we shoudn't underestimate the effective, reliable foundation that Cork and Westwood offer, and there's an argument that if we want to improve upon that, we probably have to take punt on the ability of Dyche to unlock raw potential.
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Yeah, to be fair I can't say I've watched them all that often. I just think, for what fee Billing may command, there will be better value for money out there.ClaretTony wrote:It’s often when you see them. I remember watching Huddersfield a few times in their promotion season and they always seemed to reserve their worst performances for when I was watching.
On a side note, I could see Wells going back to Huddersfield this summer.
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I could be wrong but I think Billing is looked upon as more of a defensive midfielder than a creative, attacking one? As mentioned above, I don't think we'd get as much bang for our buck with Billing compared to shopping somewhere else.claretspice wrote:But that's the point, isn't it? Our midfield is currently staffed two players who are respectable but not brilliant technically, and who more than punch their weight but are middleweights rather than heavyweights physically - but who within those limitations can be relied upon to deliver effective performances. Our choice is always going to be between that sort of player, or a player who is not that reliable, but who has greater gits (either technically, or physically, or both).
Jeff Hendrick is the closest we have to the sort of complete, athletic midfield that most of us yearn for, but he's not exactly a fans favourite and it sort of demonstrates that what fans really want is someone who has a heady combination of physicality and athleticism combined with footballing ability and consistency. It's obviously not realistic for us to sign someone who has actually shown he can do all that in the Premier League, because those players cost fortunes in both transfer fees and wages that we don't have.
You might well be right about Billing - but we shoudn't underestimate the effective, reliable foundation that Cork and Westwood offer, and there's an argument that if we want to improve upon that, we probably have to take punt on the ability of Dyche to unlock raw potential.
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Living in Vegas, I'd assume it hard to find a Hudders fan full stopVegas Claret wrote:Hard to find a Hudders fan that rates Billing - that'll do for me get him signed
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ha indeed ! fortunately we do have the internet !Barry_Chuckle wrote:Living in Vegas, I'd assume it hard to find a Hudders fan full stop
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I understood Billing to be a bit of a box-to-box player rather than per se a defensive midfielder, but I think the point stands regardless (I haven't seen that much of him). The general consensus is that our midfield lacks for physical presence, but physically imposing midfielders who can play a bit and who have the tactical discipline to put that together with effective, consistent performances cost an absolute fortune. You're always going to end up compromising somewhere if you're Burnley.Jakubs Tash wrote:I could be wrong but I think Billing is looked upon as more of a defensive midfielder than a creative, attacking one? As mentioned above, I don't think we'd get as much bang for our buck with Billing compared to shopping somewhere else.
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He's on loan.andyh wrote:Camarasa from Cardiff would be the 1 I would want.
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have to agree with Camarasa and Murphy if Cardiff drop
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Seems a lot more creative than what we have but with the same work ethic. From when I have seen him play.Jakubs Tash wrote:He's a good footballer...but don't you think he's a little too samey to what we already have with Cork and Westwood'?
I think we need two CM's - one that is big, physical athlete and one that can make us play a bit more.
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From watching a few Huddersfield on tv and the home game at TM, Hogg was the DM who was very effective at breaking play up (not always legally but did seem to manage to not to get booked against Fulham). Billing was the physical side to their midfield which is probably what we are looking for and Mooy the creativity.
There was an article in the observer the Sunday of the international break, which Claret Tony did the Burnley review, the Huddersfield fan was very critical of Billing, Mooy and Mounie and would be happy for less of them!
Watched Toulouse last night, they had a lad in the centre Sidibe, only 20 who was very athletic and not shy of breaking play up, usually illegally (take that out of his game, only young) but it is that sort of player we need! Sangare was similar too.
There was an article in the observer the Sunday of the international break, which Claret Tony did the Burnley review, the Huddersfield fan was very critical of Billing, Mooy and Mounie and would be happy for less of them!
Watched Toulouse last night, they had a lad in the centre Sidibe, only 20 who was very athletic and not shy of breaking play up, usually illegally (take that out of his game, only young) but it is that sort of player we need! Sangare was similar too.
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Warnock was whinging about Camarasa not playing when passed fit due to outside interference.
I can't see Dyche going for him.
I can't see Dyche going for him.