Wells, Vydra Crouch

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Re: Wells, Vydra Crouch

Post by Longside4evr » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:46 pm

At this level take a look at some of the qaulity to hit ten and above but dare to dream on

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Re: Wells, Vydra Crouch

Post by FactualFrank » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:48 pm

Longside4evr wrote:At this level take a look at some of the qaulity to hit ten and above but dare to dream on
No dreaming. If he gets the chance he'll do it.

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Re: Wells, Vydra Crouch

Post by Longside4evr » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:51 pm

right ho

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Re: Wells, Vydra Crouch

Post by DustyBawls » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:53 pm

FactualFrank wrote:No dreaming. If he gets the chance he'll do it.
15 is a lot for a Premiership season then again I didn't agree when you suggested Vydra in the first place. You reported him turning down the Leeds move and suggested we go in for him?
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Re: Wells, Vydra Crouch

Post by TVC15 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:54 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Watch and learn pal. If he gets a chance he'll get 15.
That’s like saying if I get a chance I’ll get 15 goals - ain’t gonna happen !
Seriously not sure what makes you think that - he can’t even get in his National side and they were awful

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Re: Wells, Vydra Crouch

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:57 pm

Longside4evr wrote:At this level take a look at some of the qaulity to hit ten and above but dare to dream on
So like Barnes, Vokes, Wood and Ings all did for us then?

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Re: Wells, Vydra Crouch

Post by FactualFrank » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:01 pm

TVC15 wrote:That’s like saying if I get a chance I’ll get 15 goals - ain’t gonna happen !
Seriously not sure what makes you think that - he can’t even get in his National side and they were awful
I watched him when he was at Derby. My cousin and aunt live in Matlock, and we went a few times to watch them when I was down that way. But I've said this a few times, so not sure where the confusion comes from. It's my opinion, so we shall see if he does the job for us.

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Re: Wells, Vydra Crouch

Post by Longside4evr » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:07 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:So like Barnes, Vokes, Wood and Ings all did for us then?
They where quality and still think they are but Ings only as done it once and his head and shoulders better than Vydra and the rest have only done it the once at top level
Wood and Barnes still have the potential to carry on doing so but that is not my main point

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Re: Wells, Vydra Crouch

Post by Stalbansclaret » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:07 pm

Why do you say that Frank ? He has done next to nothing to suggest he is anything other than the lightweight "good in the Championship but not up to the Premier League" striker his previous record suggested he was.
It's always the case on here that any player not playing will come to be viewed with rose-tinted specs on. When you don't play your imperfections aren't being held up for inspection.
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Re: Wells, Vydra Crouch

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:12 pm

Longside4evr wrote:They where quality and still think they are but Ings only as done it once and his head and shoulders better than Vydra and the rest have only done it the once at top level
Wood and Barnes still have the potential to carry on doing so but that is not my main point
Ings has, in all fairness, been injured for a number of years.

Your point is you think Vydra can't score 15 goals in the PL, not even 10 I suspect.
You then spoke about the quality needed to knock in 10 plus league goals in a PL season.

Am I close?

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Re: Wells, Vydra Crouch

Post by Longside4evr » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:16 pm

If dyche thinks he as the potential to knock in ten then i am sure he would be getting more game time
But for the record i said look at the quality who knock over 10 a season

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Re: Wells, Vydra Crouch

Post by TVC15 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:17 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I watched him when he was at Derby. My cousin and aunt live in Matlock, and we went a few times to watch them when I was down that way. But I've said this a few times, so not sure where the confusion comes from. It's my opinion, so we shall see if he does the job for us.
Not sure I’m the one who is confused.
He’s never done it in the premier league and he has been at more than one club and failed to break through in this league.
Of course you are entitled to your opinion - and in the same way people are entitled to ask what it’s based on.

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Re: Wells, Vydra Crouch

Post by Longside4evr » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:19 pm

Watford and West Brom he was and your right he said he felt to much of a kid

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Re: Wells, Vydra Crouch

Post by FactualFrank » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:30 pm

TVC15 wrote:Not sure I’m the one who is confused.
He’s never done it in the premier league and he has been at more than one club and failed to break through in this league.
Of course you are entitled to your opinion - and in the same way people are entitled to ask what it’s based on.
You really don't want him to succeed at Burnley do you. Why?

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Re: Wells, Vydra Crouch

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:54 pm

TVC15 wrote:Not sure I’m the one who is confused.
He’s never done it in the premier league and he has been at more than one club and failed to break through in this league.
Of course you are entitled to your opinion - and in the same way people are entitled to ask what it’s based on.
You talking about Vydra or Wood?

We are Wood's 3rd crack at the PL.

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Re: Wells, Vydra Crouch

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:48 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I just hope Dyche gives Vydra more time. I'm confident that if he's given a chance he'll get 15+ goals for us a season. The same confidence I had of Charlie Taylor and was shot down on here - player of the season, for me. And the same confidence I have of Wood and was shot down on here. We all know with what happened to Ben Mee, that Sean Dyche is a top manager, but takes time to see what's infront of him.

Get survival sorted and start Vydra. He'd be a top player for us, if/when given enough chances. He's not had enough chances.
I don't disagree.

Problem is I suspect Dyche does disagree.

There have been literally loads of occasions we could have used him form the bench.

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Re: Wells, Vydra Crouch

Post by TVC15 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:04 pm

FactualFrank wrote:You really don't want him to succeed at Burnley do you. Why?
What a weird thing to say in response to me simply pointing out I don’t think he is a 15+ goal striker in this league.
Of course I want him to succeed - I’ve supported the club for 45 years and there is not one player I have ever not wanted to succeed....idiotic thing to say.
Rather than make silly comments based on nothing why don’t you actually have a check what the going rate is for 15+ goal strikers in this league and how few of them achieve this number.
Even better try and put a coherent argument together for why you think Vydra would score that many - and make it a bit better than you’ve seen him play for Derby againdh Rotherham !

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Re: Wells, Vydra Crouch

Post by SGr » Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:13 pm

Wells - bin.
Crouch - will probably retire.
Vydra - tempted to keep to try and get some returns on the investment but that’s only as a last resort.

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Re: Wells, Vydra Crouch

Post by Longside4evr » Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:44 pm

How many goals did he score aginst top opposition in the Championship just a question
Cos when i watched him against Fulham and he looked lost
I hope he does make a success if he stays i will be the first to say i was wrong but i dont hold anyhope of that and i have 47 years experience
to know who fits the bill at Burnley and who wont he got a goal at Anfield which yes top opposition but i still hold big question mark on him
Mangers i defo get wrong apart from Laws but it dint take a blind man to realise that one

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Re: Wells, Vydra Crouch

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:02 am

Longside4evr wrote:So what your saying dont bother if the agent knows the player is not happy about playing we will just keep hold of them to sit on our bench and pay the hefty wages
dont open up room
these three players was not what we wanted the players in my book were cover players all three, so what you are saying is carry on with them and not try and circulate interest just because there under contact that's the daftest thing i have heard

If you want daft read the above it is bordering on thick

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Re: Wells, Vydra Crouch

Post by Longside4evr » Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:51 am

Exactly that read the last bit has you certainly haven't
And another that doesn't get it thats thick in my book and very hypocritical to say the least
And if your going to slag my post off fella be more constructive
Thats a bit illiterate in my book to come in with on liners
You need to get the ironing board and do a bit of ironing to keep your mind off things and learn to deliberate something usefull

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Re: Wells, Vydra Crouch

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:55 am

Do you have Mahou for breakfast every day ?

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Re: Wells, Vydra Crouch

Post by Longside4evr » Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:20 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Do you have Mahou for breakfast every day ?
No mate but i am suffering from terminal cancer and dont need numpties like you polluting my post so do one will you and do something simple you simple tw@t

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Re: Wells, Vydra Crouch

Post by whiffa » Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:30 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Walters has retired. He's no longer with us. And I think Crouch was a short deal, so think he's a free agent in the summer - might be wrong with that one, though. And we should keep Vydra. Wells was a sound move with not being able to see into the future. That was quite clearly a just in case move.
I wasn't saying that any of those signings were good decisions or not, just that I wouldn't be surprised if those became vacancies. I don't disagree on Vydra, I'd like him to stay and be given a chance but also wouldn't be surprised if he did move on in the summer.

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