Bury : No Wages

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:37 am

Richardsbfc wrote:Allister Campbell son is a live bidder. Passed fit and proper test with EFL today. Waiting to see if they will grant extension. Fingers crossed.
So you just read Twitter, Mr in the know bs-er?
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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by bfcjg » Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:10 am

ClaretTony wrote:Yes, Alastair's son Rory who apparently was a technical analyst at West Ham.
Give his dad the master of spin a couple of hours with the books and lo and behold Bury will be the most financially viable club that has ever existed.
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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by Hipper » Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:15 am

ClaretAndJew wrote:Good stature? They cheated their way into league one and trashed a free training ground.
Trashed the training ground. Where did you get this info?

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by Goobs » Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:16 am

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:So you just read Twitter, Mr in the know bs-er?
Nah he works where the fit and proper tests are carried out ;)
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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:18 am

Hipper wrote:Trashed the training ground. Where did you get this info?
Don’t know about trashed but they’ve been given notice to quit by Man City because they’ve fallen well short of maintaining the facility as required and agreed.

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by ClaretAndJew » Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:34 am

Hipper wrote:Trashed the training ground. Where did you get this info?
A hyperbolic way to describe it perhaps but they have let the training ground fall below acceptable standards and even had the water supply cut off at one point. They have failed to take care of it.

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:46 am

bfcjg wrote:Give his dad the master of spin a couple of hours with the books and lo and behold Bury will be the most financially viable club that has ever existed.
Or they'll be invading Yorkshire under false pretences.

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by Richardsbfc » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:10 am

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:So you just read Twitter, Mr in the know bs-er?
Bizarre, Who is claiming to be in the know?

But no, it wasnt twitter.

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by Richardsbfc » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:11 am

Goobs wrote:Nah he works where the fit and proper tests are carried out ;)
Would be a hard one to pull off that Goobs. I'm not sure where they do them ... :lol:
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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by Chester Perry » Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:50 pm

This doesn't look good for a business that is trying to by Bury

https://twitter.com/martynziegler/statu ... 0733198336" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

where is the money coming from?

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by Chester Perry » Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:54 pm

deadline extended to Tuesday 5pm

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by clansman » Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:55 pm

Chester Perry wrote:This doesn't look good for a business that is trying to by Bury

https://twitter.com/martynziegler/statu ... 0733198336" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

where is the money coming from?
Technically insolvent. Another bunch of time wasters!

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:04 pm

Granted an extension till 5pm Tuesday.
(BBC fivelive)

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by deanothedino » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:54 pm

Not technically insolvent at all as a lot of those debts aren't due until after the year. But also as a startup they'll be raising funds - that won't be evidenced on the balance sheet.

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by tiger76 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 2:54 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Or they'll be invading Yorkshire under false pretences.
Why do the Yorkies have any WMD'S.

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by Nonayforever » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:50 pm

Chester Perry wrote:deadline extended to Tuesday 5pm
EFL getting their spades out of the shed ready to do some more digging.
They have really got to be one of the most totally useless organisations in existence.

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:55 pm

Extended to Tuesday but buyers say their solicitor/accountant? Isn’t available until Wednesday because it’s a BH weekend.

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by bfcjg » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:55 pm

The company taking over are now saying not enough time for due diligence ie checking books etc etc. they really must be naive.

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by clansman » Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:13 pm

As I stated above they are “technically “ insolvent. How can a company that’s only been going 2 years with a paid up capital of 100 pounds and a negative net worth of 190 k even be considered for this takeover. No one would provide a loan to them with that balance sheet. And even if they did it would create a new unserviceable debt situation.
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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:52 am

tiger76 wrote:Why do the Yorkies have any WMD'S.
Plenty of weapons in Leeds :D
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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by ElectroClaret » Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:50 pm

Looks like Bury are doomed, prospective buyers pull out.(sky news)

C&N Sporting Risk "unable to proceed."

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by NL Claret » Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:53 pm

After some optimism and fans from a number of clubs cleaning the ground up it is not looking good for the Shakers. Will be a sad day for the town and football in general.

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Post by FCBurnley » Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:57 pm

Hopefully the EFL wont let Bury fold and then save Bolton !!!!!!

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:02 pm

FCBurnley wrote:Hopefully the EFL wont let Bury fold and then save Bolton !!!!!!
It depends on what the clubs do. It’s gone on far too long for both of them.

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:05 pm

maybe they should merge :D

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by FCBurnley » Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:06 pm

ClaretTony wrote:It depends on what the clubs do. It’s gone on far too long for both of them.
Agreed. Just hope they get treated equally. Good or bad.But I think they are both well passed their sell by date now.

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:12 pm

The EFL have confirmed the proposed takeover of Bury is off - with the club now hours from expulsion.

The Shakers had been poised to be expelled from the EFL on Friday for failing to prove their financial viability.

But a 11th-hour takeover bid from C&N Sporting Risk ensured the club's deadline was extended to 5pm on Tuesday.

Owner Steve Dale had accepted an offer from C&N Sporting Risk but it was announced the takeover had collapsed on Monday, just over an hour before the deadline.

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:12 pm

As I said on the Bolton thread it really is a sad state of affairs at Bury. Two consecutive complete d!ckhead owners have wreaked a founder member

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:13 pm

THEWELLERNUT70 wrote:As I said on the Bolton thread it really is a sad state of affairs at Bury. Two consecutive complete d!ckhead owners have wreaked a founder member
Bury aren’t founder members
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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by Falcon » Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:15 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:maybe they should merge :D
Could call them Burton. Oh, wait a minute...
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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by SGr » Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:20 pm

Looks like it’s all over.

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by claptrappers_union » Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:21 pm

Very sad

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by ClaretAndJew » Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:33 pm

Where will Bury be buried?

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by FCBurnley » Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:35 pm

Bury average home attendance last season when they were promoted was 4044. Lincoln and MK who were the other promoted teams both had more than double that number. Hardly surprising they could not pay their players !

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by Top Claret » Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:39 pm

The people of Bury and surrounding areas have never got behind their local football team, they prefer to support City and United

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by Jel » Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:42 pm

Falcon wrote:Could call them Burton. Oh, wait a minute...
They might have gone for that

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:57 pm

Can see ten clubs going this way over the next few years.

Dont know the solution but maybe the elite clubs will start having B teams like in Spain. Sending their youngsters to these clubs? But then as fans of these clubs would it ever be there club again.

Until the money drips down a bit more we will start seeing clubs going bang year on year.

Feel if this Birmingham or Pompey they would have been assisted more in saving the club. I think the EFL look at it and think their is already enough teams in the North West...what loss is 2 clubs.

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:00 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:Feel if this Birmingham or Pompey they would have been assisted more in saving the club. I think the EFL look at it and think their is already enough teams in the North West...what loss is 2 clubs.
Couldn't be more wrong really, the league have bent over backwards much too far to try and help them. What they did get wrong in Bury's case was allowing Steve Dale to take over.

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:04 pm

Bury have just issued the following statement (around 40 minutes ago)


Bury Football Club would like to issue the following statement to supporters.

We understand that this is a difficult and emotional time for all supporters given the recent news regarding a potential takeover.

While the Club are working hard looking at other potential avenues with other interested parties, we would like to remind supporters that no one should gain access to inside the stadium (unless authorised).

CCTV is installed at Gigg Lane, and anyone damaging Club property or trespassing into the stadium itself will be identified and appropriately dealt with by the Police, who will have access to current and previous CCTV footage.

We would like to urge supporters to remain patient and respectful for Club property.

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:04 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Couldn't be more wrong really, the league have bent over backwards much too far to try and help them. What they did get wrong in Bury's case was allowing Steve Dale to take over.
Yes but with Dale do you not think they realised what an almighty cock up they had made in allowing him to pass their fit and proper persons test (?) and knew they were at fault in a way. Also I dont know if it can be believed but their were strong rumours he had actually failed the test (maybe this is not news at all, not sure?)

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:06 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Couldn't be more wrong really, the league have bent over backwards much too far to try and help them. What they did get wrong in Bury's case was allowing Steve Dale to take over.
I thought he didn't pass any test but still took over the club?

I'm not sure what the league could actually do apart from remove them from the league?

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:08 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:Yes but with Dale do you not think they realised what an almighty cock up they had made in allowing him to pass their fit and proper persons test (?) and knew they were at fault in a way. Also I dont know if it can be believed but their were strong rumours he had actually failed the test (maybe this is not news at all, not sure?)
He didn't pass it - the League have said that. Thankfully the buffoon Harvey has gone now so you can only assume the league will improve.

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by Nonayforever » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:13 pm

No statement yet from the EFL.

If CT was in charge it would have been written days ago :D
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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:15 pm

Nonayforever wrote:No statement yet from the EFL.

If CT was in charge it would have been written days ago :D
These would be articles I would never want to have ready
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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by 4:20 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:18 pm

Sad times, knew a Bury supporter throughout secondary school, he loved them. Haven't seen him for 20 odd years, he'll be devastated.

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by Hipper » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:22 pm

What alternatives did Bury have at the time Dale took over?

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:26 pm

Hipper wrote:What alternatives did Bury have at the time Dale took over?
Well for a quid, I couldn't have been worse.

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by Dark Cloud » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:30 pm

It does raise the question of a person failing the fit and proper test, but yet the sellers simply selling the club to him (or her) anyway. What actually can the league do about it apart from chucking the club out and if the buyer (in this case Dale) really isn't interested in the football at all anyway, they're not in the least bit fussed because to them all they want is the "real estate"!

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by ElectroClaret » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:31 pm

Tony Livesey (five live) "new bids thought to have gone in at Gigg Lane...."

Hope one comes off, but it all feels like wishful thinking now.

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Re: Bury : No Wages

Post by Nonayforever » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:38 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:Tony Livesey (five live) "new bids thought to have gone in at Gigg Lane...."

Hope one comes off, but it all feels like wishful thinking now.
The EFL will probably fall for this new twist to the tale.

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