Cardiff at home

[Spijed]

If we lose at Bournemouth by more than one goal then they will only be 5 points behind us, with something like a -9 GD
If we then lose our last 4 games by an average of 2 goals and they pick up just 5 points in their remaining games, which is quite possible, then they would most likely stay up on on GD.
Put it another way, if we lose at Bournemouth and draw against Cardiff, then (looking at the fixtures) I think Cardiff will consider that they are in with a really good chance.

You do realise they have to play Liverpool after they've played Brighton don't you?

Unless you think goals against them won't count in that game.

[Goddy]

You do realise they have to play Liverpool after they've played Brighton don't you?

Unless you think goals against them won't count in that game.

Agreed, Spijed. People being worried that our GD advantage is basically 'at risk' appear to assume that Cardiff will win every game and we'll lose every game. If that happens we're down and they'll stay up anyhow, regardless of GD.

Let's say we draw against Cardiff and then lose every other game by, say one or two goals (likely if we lose the rest) so add minus 7 to us, that would mean we'd be on -29

Cardiff draw against us and then need 5 more points, to catch us for GD to be an issue. Let's say they win one game and draw two others and then lose two others (for their 5 points), it's actually more likely that their GD would get worse (two defeats versus one victory).

My point is that if it comes down to GD then it would be unbelievably unfortunate for us to not be the beneficiaries. If Cardiff are to stay up, they'll almost certainly need more points than us, so they already need 6 points to stay up (and need those from 5 remaining games assuming we get a draw against them and we get no further points for the rest of the season). Not losing to Cardiff is, quite frankly, the key to us staying up........probably

[bodge]

A point at home against Cardiff will be fine. I reckon they will lose at home to Palace, who are excellent on the road.

Some people are assuming it's a straight shoot out between us and Cardiff, clearly Brighton and Southampton are very much involved as well.

[Guich]

They also play away to Man United on the last day.

I don't think it will matter by then, but I predict we'll draw with Arsenal 1-1 and Manyoo will beat Cardiff 4-0

[Ooogeorgeorgeoghani]

They also play away to Man United on the last day.

I don't think it will matter by then, but I predict we'll draw with Arsenal 1-1 and Manyoo will beat Cardiff 4-0

I think we will get a point against arsenal but then I always think we can at home until the ref steps in

[edison]

A point at home against Cardiff will be fine. I reckon they will lose at home to Palace, who are excellent on the road.

Some people are assuming it's a straight shoot out between us and Cardiff, clearly Brighton and Southampton are very much involved as well.

We won't make it easy or comfortable for supporters. A point at home v Cardiff and folk will be losing their sh**, although Cardiff's next 2 games after us could effectively seal their fate.

[midlander63]

My view is that what happens against Bournemouth will have a massive effect on the Cardiff game.
A win for Burnley tomorrow will mean Cardiff are 8 points back when they visit Turf Moor. This makes it a game that they really have to win to stand a realistic chance of catching Burnley - the pressure on them would be enormous. Burnley lose and they'd probably be satisfied with a draw.
Win tomorrow and Cardiff will need to attack at Turf Moor. If Burnley get the first goal I could then see us winning easily as Cardiff have to commit men forward.
Their fans will be making a right noise at kick off but a Burnley goal would silence them.

[Spike]

Cardiff haven't a sheep in Hell's chance of beating us

[Longsidebogs]

I think we’re more likely to win at Bournemouth than against Cardiff.sure it will be a tough game on the South coast, but I expect Cardiff to go all guns blazing in an anything goes type of game. They have absolutely nothing to lose. We will be a bag of nerves. I might have a bet on a couple of Red cards in that game. The atmosphere should be electric. Will we stay up? For me yes.....could be Brighton for relegation.

[Top Claret]

4 more points plus our superior goal average and we should OK. I can't see Cardiff getting 10 points from there remaining fixtures

[nil_desperandum]

You do realise they have to play Liverpool after they've played Brighton don't you?

Unless you think goals against them won't count in that game.

I do realise, and that's one of the fixtures that worries me.
I'm far from being alone in thinking that Klopp's Liverpool will bottle it in the last few games, and this is exactly the sort of game where - in the past - Liverpool have dropped a couple of points. (Yes, I know Liverpool are much stronger this season).
Klopp's really good at being a runner-up by the way.

[Spijed]

I do realise, and that's one of the fixtures that worries me.
I'm far from being alone in thinking that Klopp's Liverpool will bottle it in the last few games, and this is exactly the sort of game where - in the past - Liverpool have dropped a couple of points. (Yes, I know Liverpool are much stronger this season).
Klopp's really good at being a runner-up by the way.

And what about our matches?

Why are the games against Chelsea & Arsenal more difficult for us than Cardiff playing Liverpool & Man U?

It makes you despair the complete negativity on here at times. We are in a far, far stronger position than Cardiff and you forget they also have to play Brighton away.

[nil_desperandum]

And what about our matches?

Why are the games against Chelsea & Arsenal more difficult for us than Cardiff playing Liverpool & Man U?

It makes you despair the complete negativity on here at times. We are in a far, far stronger position than Cardiff and you forget they also have to play Brighton away.

I don't think I'm being particularly negative. It's just how I "read" the fixtures.
I fully expect Cardiff to beat Fulham, so leaving all else aside that puts them 2 points behind us. If as some are suggesting we only draw against Cardiff, then the differential remains the same. Looking at the other games I just feel that they are more likely to pick up 3 or 4 more points than we are, (unless we win tomorrow, in which case "the Cardiff" draw would be more positive for us than them)

[Spijed]

I don't think I'm being particularly negative. It's just how I "read" the fixtures.
I fully expect Cardiff to beat Fulham, so leaving all else aside that puts them 2 points behind us. If as some are suggesting we only draw against Cardiff, then the differential remains the same. Looking at the other games I just feel that they are more likely to pick up 3 or 4 more points than we are, (unless we win tomorrow, in which case "the Cardiff" draw would be more positive for us than them)

Fulham have comfortably beaten every team at the bottom at home.

I think your pessimism is a bit misplaced.

[nil_desperandum]

Fulham have comfortably beaten every team at the bottom at home.

I think your pessimism is a bit misplaced.

I think that that's a very fair point, but the spirit at Cardiff is very good and Fulham just seem to have given up in the past 2 months.
On checking I was surprised to note that they've lost every single game they've played in 2019, (except, consistent with what you say) they beat Brighton back in January.
We will have to hope that, now relegated, and with Parker in charge they might start to play a bit better. Problem is they just can't defend.