Cardiff at home

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:55 pm

Would you take a draw if offered...

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:57 pm

No win that and we stay up.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:57 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Would you take a draw if offered...

All dependent on the Bournemouth result.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:59 pm

Depends on Saturday but yes

if we are 5 points ahead going into the game at Turf moor against Colins bottlers then yes a draw would do....

But as we are going to give them a right royal stuffing

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:00 pm

Best we give them a sound thrashing. I'd like to see at least one goal thanks to crap officials

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:01 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Would you take a draw if offered...

Hard to call, apart from Cardiff we have B'mouth, MCity, Chelsea, Everton and Arsenal.

Cardiff have Lpool, MUtd, Fulham, Palace and Brighton

I'll let you know after the w/end.

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Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:02 pm

We have to win Cardiff have to play Brighton Palace and Fulham all winnable

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:03 pm

We need to win both the bournemouth and Cardiff game. Cardiff are more than capable of winning at Fulham and Brighton and at home to Palace

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:03 pm

Brighton losing tonight helps as when they play Crapdiff its a biggy

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:07 pm

By the time we play Everton they'll already be on their sun loungers.

If we are desperate for points , we'll get them at Goodison.

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:16 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:By the time we play Everton they'll already be on their sun loungers.

If we are desperate for points , we'll get them at Goodison.

Well we did actually win at Goodison in 1976 and prior to that 1963, so a victory there is overdue!

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:18 pm

Bosscat wrote:Depends on Saturday but yes if we are 5 points ahead going into the game at Turf moor against Colins bottlers then yes a draw would do....

But as we are going to give them a right royal stuffing

We will be 5 points or 6 or 8 ahead by that game. I do not think a draw will do id=f we are only 5 points clear when we play them as I fancy they will beat Fulham and maybe Brighton and then they have palace at home-so I think we need to win if we are only 5 points clear especially after that we have Chelsea Man C Everton and Arsenal and most of us have said we need to be safe before our last 4 games

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:24 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:Well we did actually win at Goodison in 1976 and prior to that 1963, so a victory there is overdue!

And last season, not forgetting all those passes!

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:32 pm

Spijed wrote:And last season, not forgetting all those passes!

Oops- forgot that!!
Ok, we're not due a win there then!!!

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:44 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:Well we did actually win at Goodison in 1976 and prior to that 1963, so a victory there is overdue!

Didnt we win there last season?

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:48 pm

No.......1976 apparently

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:53 pm

We are still in squeaky bum time.

Remember there are always a few strange results in the last couple of games.

Remember our Spurs game, last game of the first season.

Man Utd could be on the beach for Cardiff’s last game. I hope we don’t need a result on the last day, it could undo us.

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:53 pm

tim_noone wrote:No.......1976 apparently

Keep up. I corrected that 15 minutes before you posted!

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:15 am

People are perhaps forgetting that Newcastle , Southampton as well as Brighton and Palace are very much in the thick of it . I’d expect at least one of the above ( hopefully Brighton) to totally sh1t the bed .
A point at Bournemouth and a decent win against Colin’s lot should see us fairly safe . As mentioned above hopefully Everton will be “on holiday” As for Arsenal and Chelsea let’s hope they’ve secured champs league or no chance by the time we play em

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:23 am

If results go our way this weekend and we beat Cardiff we are safe so we have to win.

vinrogue · Post by **vinrogue** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:42 am

I am not great at maths but given goal difference, I reckon if we win one of our remaining games they have to win 3 games to overtake us. So I guess a draw would limit their ability and our win could be against City as we owe them !!

Longside4evr · Post by **Longside4evr** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:11 am

We owe Arsenal one more than any other team I care to mention
But what we dont need is going into that last game needing to beat them
We all no how things go against that lot and it really would be a psychological potential doomsday disaster.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:16 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Would you take a draw if offered...

Certainly not as it may be the case that I will be travelling up and down with a Carduffers fan, so he may try and claim some sort of credit for a draw which needless to say I would find unexceptable

TheOriginalLongsider · Post by **TheOriginalLongsider** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:19 am

Cardiff have 6 games left. 4 are away from home and the two home games are v Palace and Liverpool. I think we need just 3 points to stay up

theroyaldyche · Post by **theroyaldyche** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:20 am

Wel thump them at home

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:30 am

I'd certainly take 2 points from the next 2 games, however if Bournemouth beat us, I'd say a win v Cardiff is essential.

It'd just finish them off if we beat them.

I'm not sure the Brighton and Fulham games are going to be easy for them, 1s a 6 pointer, the other will be against a relegated team with all the pressure off.

I'm thinking they'll get 7 points at best from the next 6 games. That'd be their best run of results all season, at the time pressure the is greatest.

Brighton, Southampton and ourselves have been here before, it'll be a huge advantage.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:37 am

I don't know that I'd "take" a draw at Burnley, but it's definitely not a disaster if we draw it now. Cardiff need the win far more than we do - almost irrespective of our result on Saturday, but especially if we can get a point on Saturday (and if we get 3, Cardiff will virtually have to win at Burnley).

WestMidsClaret · Post by **WestMidsClaret** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:37 am

Massive game no matter what happens this weekend.

Goddy · Post by **Goddy** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:40 am

@theroyaldyche - I love your unerringly positive/definitive posts (even if somewhat delusiona, if you'll excuse me for saying so, on the odd occasion). If we do beat Cardiff I suspect it'll be closer to how we beat Fulham rather than 'thumping' them.

As for the general situation, a five point (or six, with GD) gap really is a big lead at this stage of the season. How often have we (or any other team for that matter) gone defeated for six straight games? Not often - so very unlikely we'll not get more points. Equally, how often do teams that have struggled all season suddenly dramatically improve? We did just after Christmas but other than that, I can't think of many, so the chances of both us imploding and Cardiff becoming unbeatable really are slim.

Still, I'd be very relieved if we won the next two games and basically put this relegation threat to bed.

Goddy · Post by **Goddy** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:40 am

@theroyaldyche - I love your unerringly positive/definitive posts (even if somewhat delusional, if you'll excuse me for saying so, on the odd occasion). If we do beat Cardiff I suspect it'll be closer to how we beat Fulham rather than 'thumping' them.

As for the general situation, a five point (or six, with GD) gap really is a big lead at this stage of the season. How often have we (or any other team for that matter) gone defeated for six straight games? Not often - so, very unlikely we'll not get more points. Equally, how often do teams that have struggled all season suddenly dramatically improve? We did just after Christmas but other than that, I can't think of many, so the chances of both us imploding and Cardiff becoming unbeatable really are slim.

Still, I'd be very relieved if we won the next two games and basically put this relegation threat to bed.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:50 am

vinrogue wrote:I am not great at maths but given goal difference, I reckon if we win one of our remaining games they have to win 3 games to overtake us. So I guess a draw would limit their ability and our win could be against City as we owe them !!

Not convinced on GD.

Say city beat us 5-0 again and Chelsea 4-0 again. That takes us to -31. Cardiff win against us 1-0 we are level!

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:06 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Not convinced on GD.

Say city beat us 5-0 again and Chelsea 4-0 again. That takes us to -31. Cardiff win against us 1-0 we are level!

And Cardiff have Liverpool & Man U to play.

You don't turn around a -11 GD at this stage of the season, especially for struggling teams.

It's a shame people don't look at previous tables/results to see that.

Longside4evr · Post by **Longside4evr** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:16 am

That could happen but at the latter end of the season when the pressure builds on teams the scoring becomes more of a tight affair
at Arsenal you could say we shipped a few in Wengers last game but we where already on the beach.
But when Huddersfield rock up at Stamford Bridge Chelsea had to win to gain a Champions league place and a 1-1 draw was the out come saving Huddersfield bacon

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:36 am

Next 2, ideally, get us out points. The remainder are all dodgy.

Brighton for relegation!

Jambounchained · Post by **Jambounchained** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:16 am

Bosscat wrote:Depends on Saturday but yes if we are 5 points ahead going into the game at Turf moor against Colins bottlers then yes a draw would do....

But as we are going to give them a right royal stuffing

We'll be 5 points ahead of them anyway won't we? They don't play this weekend. A win at Bournemouth would be incredible.

Spike · Post by **Spike** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:22 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Would you take a draw if offered...

I want to win every game! But this is a must win

ashtonlongsider · Post by **ashtonlongsider** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:02 pm

Someone asked me yesterday if I think we'll stay up. I was cautious and pondered the question. I responded by saying if we went down from this position, we deserve to. Re the question, I think a point at this stage would suit us more than Cardiff. That said as another thread indicated, we can only take each game as it comes, but these are definitely two big games.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:39 pm

If we cant beat Cardiff at home then we dont deserve to stay up. Not sure a draw will keep us up and a defeat will almost certainly relegate us. Our best chance of points in our last 4 games is Arsenal at home. How big was the dropped point v 10 man Leicester !! and the win v Spurs !!!!!

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:37 pm

Win both we are safe. In my eyes a draw at Bournemouth and beating Cardiff is job done.

The Turf should be as tense and loud as it was for the big games in my lifetime watching Burnley, both times against Plymouth to stave off relegation and to get to Wembley in the Playoffs, playoff against Reading, Boro at home, and like any game against Rovers. This matters.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:47 pm

Have to kind of agree with FCBurnley in that if we can't beat them at home, then maybe we don't deserve to stop up and maybe they do and will. Plus, if you can't get enough points over 38 matches then clearly you're not good enough tbh. Ironically if we do beat Bournemouth and then Cardiff, depending on other results it could well suddenly be Brighton who are pooing their undies with Cardiff breathing down their necks rather than us.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:59 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:Oops- forgot that!!
Ok, we're not due a win there then!!!

Here you go, nil-d. Enjoy.
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cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:00 pm

Buxtonclaret wrote:Here you go, nil-d. Enjoy.
Tis a thing of beauty.

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DONT!!!!!!!

I miss Defour… And Arfield. And Ward. And Brady!!!!

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:21 pm

A Win is the only acceptable outcome.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:16 pm

CnBtruntru wrote:A Win is the only acceptable outcome.

It's gonna be a draw......Brighton will go down.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:25 pm

One match at a time.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:50 pm

tim_noone wrote:It's gonna be a draw......Brighton will go down.

I can live with that scenario

Claretforever · Post by **Claretforever** » Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:39 am

If we manage to beat Bournemouth, which won’t be easy and more than likely a loss, then a point v Cardiff would be better for us than them.

Whatever happens they HAVE to beat us, but 8 points (+ goal difference) if we win at the weekend makes a point invaluable. 1 less game for them to gain on us.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:21 am

Does anyone really think that Cardiff will see a draw as a good result?

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Fri Apr 05, 2019 10:02 am

Spijed wrote:Does anyone really think that Cardiff will see a draw as a good result?

If we lose at Bournemouth by more than one goal then they will only be 5 points behind us, with something like a -9 GD
If we then lose our last 4 games by an average of 2 goals and they pick up just 5 points in their remaining games, which is quite possible, then they would most likely stay up on on GD.
Put it another way, if we lose at Bournemouth and draw against Cardiff, then (looking at the fixtures) I think Cardiff will consider that they are in with a really good chance.

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Fri Apr 05, 2019 10:10 am

If we can’t beat Colin’s rabble at home then we don’t deserve to stay up . Colin will be left puce faced and seething as he shovels pills down by the handful