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What does Dyche know....

Post by tim_noone » Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:08 pm

:lol: well done sean........the woodworks crumbling the posters are scrambling in big numbers!
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Post by Bosscat » Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:10 pm

Dyche Outers Where are ya :lol: :lol:

Lets be having you :lol: :lol: :lol:

This might just hammer a nail into the lid of the box they are hiding in ;)
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Post by Aclaret » Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:11 pm

As frustrating as he is at times......never write off Sean Dyche.
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Post by chipbutty » Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:15 pm

Best?
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Post by Tribesmen » Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:16 pm

Look when the going gets tough that's when you need to get behind the team .
I have never lost faith .
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Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:21 pm

I've said it all along, the aimless hoofball of earlier in the season produced horrific performances and results - the minute we get the ball down and play we are a good side, we've seen it again today. Don't underestimate the fortune we've had that McNeil has come in and been immense, for a kid of his age and experience to be putting in the performances he has could not have been foreseen - head and shoulders above Brady
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Post by Spijed » Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:25 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:head and shoulders above Brady
Shouldn't that be head and Shoulders above Joe Hart? :)
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Post by Tinribs » Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:40 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:I've said it all along, the aimless hoofball of earlier in the season produced horrific performances and results - the minute we get the ball down and play we are a good side, we've seen it again today. Don't underestimate the fortune we've had that McNeil has come in and been immense, for a kid of his age and experience to be putting in the performances he has could not have been foreseen - head and shoulders above Brady
Think *fortune*is not really giving the scouting system,youth coaches,manager and player the credit they deserve.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:44 pm

Tinribs wrote:Think *fortune*is not really giving the scouting system,youth coaches,manager and player the credit they deserve.
no, read what I put

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Post by Stalbansclaret » Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:48 pm

"Sean Dyche is a winner"..always remember Dion Dublin saying that on Final Score a while back. Sean Dyche knows how to win when the chips are really down.
Fantastic today. Very, VERY happy tonight.
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Post by tim_noone » Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:49 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:I've said it all along, the aimless hoofball of earlier in the season produced horrific performances and results - the minute we get the ball down and play we are a good side, we've seen it again today. Don't underestimate the fortune we've had that McNeil has come in and been immense, for a kid of his age and experience to be putting in the performances he has could not have been foreseen - head and shoulders above Brady
It matters not what you said all along we can only play to our strengths... if it means row z so be it. Whats comparing Brady to mcneil got to do with anything?

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:52 pm

tim_noone wrote:It matters not what you said all along we can only play to our strengths... if it means row z so be it. Whats comparing Brady to mcneil got to do with anything?
but we weren't playing to our strengths, now we are. The other question I'm not answering because it's so ******* obvious

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Post by pushpinpussy » Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:52 pm

name and shame I say. Vegas for me was the biggest critic. good job his negativity was in the USA

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Post by boatshed bill » Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:56 pm

What is it with our team?
A few weeks ago they were really poor with no shape, then you get performances like the last two :?

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Post by tim_noone » Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:08 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:but we weren't playing to our strengths, now we are. The other question I'm not answering because it's so ******* obvious
To the strengths available at the time... Now back on track...it's so obvious it didn't really need pointing out tbh.onward and upwards anyway...let's enjoy where we are.
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Re: What does Dyche know....

Post by bobinho » Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:14 pm

tim_noone wrote:To the strengths available at the time... Now back on track...it's so obvious it didn't really need pointing out tbh.onward and upwards anyway...let's enjoy where we are.
The same strengths we had today really mate.

Look, I LOVE Dyche, he's the man - bar none. But sometimes the tactics and the play have been lacking - especially earlier in the season. Even recently having played football on the deck and done well doing it, the next game we are giving it to James "do I remind you of Franz Beckenbauer when I do this?" Tarkowski to hoof it straight to their defenders. People question this, because they KNOW we are far better than that.
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Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:17 pm

bobinho wrote:The same strengths we had today really mate.

Look, I LOVE Dyche, he's the man - bar none. But sometimes the tactics and the play have been lacking - especially earlier in the season. Even recently having played football on the deck and done well doing it, the next game we are giving it to James "do I remind you of Franz Beckenbauer when I do this?" Tarkowski to hoof it straight to their defenders. People question this, because they KNOW we are far better than that.

far more eloquently put than me but this is exactly what I've been talking about. We were bloody outstanding today, helped by Cork finding a bit of form so Westy isn't playing on his own. We can pass the ball really really well when we choose to.

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:22 pm

Cork & Westwood struggle against the big, strong midfielders. Today Lerma & Gosling were neither and our guys dominated them.
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Post by Down_Rover » Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:25 pm

24 points in 14 games since the halfway stage on the season. Only 4 teams in the prem have more points than that. More than Chelsea and Spurs

Can’t be that much wrong with the squad ... or the managers tactics
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Post by tim_noone » Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:35 pm

boatshed bill wrote:What is it with our team?
A few weeks ago they were really poor with no shape, then you get performances like the last two :?
:lol: not forgetting Tottenham.

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Post by boatshed bill » Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:41 pm

tim_noone wrote::lol: not forgetting Tottenham.
Yes, Tim, it kind of illustrates my point. We can be very good.

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Post by bobinho » Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:43 pm

"24 points in 14 games since the halfway stage on the season. Only 4 teams in the prem have more points than that. More than Chelsea and Spurs

Can’t be that much wrong with the squad ... or the managers tactics"

Amazing what a couple of wins can do to the memory.

What did the stats say before the Wolves game?

The squad is small, and lightweight. The tactics have been up and down. No-one is really seriously going to challenge that are they?

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Post by tim_noone » Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:46 pm

boatshed bill wrote:Yes, Tim, it kind of illustrates my point. We can be very good.
Yes William I did get what you were saying. Thing is the minute we raise our game the vultures will circle....

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Post by boatshed bill » Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:48 pm

tim_noone wrote:Yes William I did get what you were saying. Thing is the minute we raise our game the vultures will circle....
Actually vultures only circle when something's dying or dead.
it's the raptors who prey on the living :D :D

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:50 pm

tim_noone wrote:Yes William I did get what you were saying. Thing is the minute we raise our game the vultures will circle....
isn't that our club model though, buy cheaply and sell for a profit ? Good job McNeil signed that long term contract !!

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Post by tim_noone » Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:50 pm

bobinho wrote:"24 points in 14 games since the halfway stage on the season. Only 4 teams in the prem have more points than that. More than Chelsea and Spurs

Can’t be that much wrong with the squad ... or the managers tactics"

Amazing what a couple of wins can do to the memory.

What did the stats say before the Wolves game?

The squad is small, and lightweight. The tactics have been up and down. No-one is really seriously going to challenge that are they?
Sean dyche has got to be a great Poker Player...

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Post by AndrewJB » Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:55 pm

bobinho wrote:The same strengths we had today really mate.

Look, I LOVE Dyche, he's the man - bar none. But sometimes the tactics and the play have been lacking - especially earlier in the season. Even recently having played football on the deck and done well doing it, the next game we are giving it to James "do I remind you of Franz Beckenbauer when I do this?" Tarkowski to hoof it straight to their defenders. People question this, because they KNOW we are far better than that.
But it’s football. And more than this, it’s Premier League football. There is a huge element of chance. The players aren’t machines to be programmed, but people who are imperfect. If (and there are no reasons to disbelieve him) Dyche sets out to win every game, then he succeeds or fails based on a lot more than his tactics - which might or might not go his way on the pitch. He’s up against some of the best managers in the world, who themselves make mistakes. It’s just a lot more nuanced than Dyche’s tactics.

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Post by Murger » Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:00 pm

The annoying thing is, when we don't hoof it, we are a good team. I just don't get why Dyche goes back to type after 1 loss.

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Post by tim_noone » Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:02 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:isn't that our club model though, buy cheaply and sell for a profit ? Good job McNeil signed that long term contract !!
Yes Agreed but maybe the models changing....contracts aren't worth the paper written on tbf. The better we play ...the better players leave. Let's just go about our business quietly. I mean even Mersons raving about us now and we've only beat Bournemouth :D
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Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:05 pm

tim_noone wrote:Yes Agreed but maybe the models changing....contracts aren't worth the paper written on tbf. The better we play ...the better players leave. Let's just go about our business quietly. I mean even Mersons raving about us now and we've only beat Bournemouth :D
:lol: :lol: yeah I saw Merson saying we would give City a game - which we will at the Turf I think.

To be fair, United sold Beckham and Ronaldo and Liverpool sold Suarez and Coutinhio, when the bigger boys come a knocking there is nothing you can do - the longer length contracts just protect the clubs investment in that we can demand a higher fee - the hard part is then reinvesting it wisely !

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Post by Down_Rover » Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:06 pm

bobinho wrote:"24 points in 14 games since the halfway stage on the season. Only 4 teams in the prem have more points than that. More than Chelsea and Spurs

Can’t be that much wrong with the squad ... or the managers tactics"

Amazing what a couple of wins can do to the memory.

What did the stats say before the Wolves game?

The squad is small, and lightweight. The tactics have been up and down. No-one is really seriously going to challenge that are they?

Plonker! If you can’t praise the team now when can you?
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Post by tim_noone » Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:19 pm

Yes...and to your last sentence that's why he got crouchy in.......and got 9million for Vokes that's got to be a great bit of business for Burnley.Crouch was irrelevant I like big Sam But 9million ???A few months back what's his value now..

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Post by Darnhill Claret » Sat Apr 06, 2019 11:22 pm

Not quite sure how the critics know what Sean’s tactics in a game are, when the players don’t play very well. Seems they’re happy with the tactics when we play well. Could it just be that the tactics are roughly the same in each game, it’s just the quality of performance that is the variable.

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Post by Darnhill Claret » Sat Apr 06, 2019 11:29 pm

Certainly Ashley Westwood’s standard play, the high chip down the channel on the right flank when facing square to the touch line happens in games where we play well and in games where we don’t play well. In the games where we play well it looks great. In other games it looks poor.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Apr 06, 2019 11:36 pm

Darnhill Claret wrote:Not quite sure how the critics know what Sean’s tactics in a game are, when the players don’t play very well. Seems they’re happy with the tactics when we play well. Could it just be that the tactics are roughly the same in each game, it’s just the quality of performance that is the variable.
not really, there are games where we aimlessly launch it (the entire first half of the season), then McNeil comes into the team and we play more football. You'll find plenty of people say we haven't played well when we've won too

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Post by levraiclaret » Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:06 am

Murger wrote:The annoying thing is, when we don't hoof it, we are a good team. I just don't get why Dyche goes back to type after 1 loss.
The annoying thing is that Murger dosen't understand that there are two teams playing in each game and opposing team presents different challenges.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:50 am

levraiclaret wrote:The annoying thing is that Murger dosen't understand that there are two teams playing in each game and opposing team presents different challenges.
Did you watch us last season ? We played some superb stuff against pretty much every club

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Post by Indecisive » Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:18 am

Great performance yesterday. We mixed play well, including a number of effective long balls. That’s always our game though, we mix it up. Sometimes it comes off and sometimes it doesn’t, which is hardly surprising considering the level we are playing at. When it doesn’t come off, some people are extremely critical Dyche’s ‘hoofball’ tactics. They tend to see the game completely differently when we win though.

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Post by Goobs » Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:47 am

pushpinpussy wrote:name and shame I say. Vegas for me was the biggest critic. good job his negativity was in the USA
I'll hold my hands up and say I thought we were all but down after we lost to Leicester, however I never doubted that Sean Dyche should stay. He was my number one choice when he got the job and I will stand by him until he departs (however that comes about).

Sometimes the football isn't pretty but it is a results business and he gets it right more than he gets it wrong IMO. Yesterday I thought we were superb after going a goal down and looked dangerous pretty much every time we went forward playing some nice football down the left in particular.

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Post by Stayingup » Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:56 am

Dyche, frankly, is an immense character. He is a full on character and the media loves him. He is tough, intelligent and as he will say still learning. Who could Burnley get to replaced him with who could meet the required the criterion?

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Post by levraiclaret » Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:44 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Did you watch us last season ? We played some superb stuff against pretty much every club
Yes I was at pretty much every match, including the eleven match winless run from December to March when Wood was out and also Defour from January.
I missed the early season loss to West Brom though.

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Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:06 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Did you watch us last season ? We played some superb stuff against pretty much every club
I don't know what you were watching last season, but a lot of it was backs to the wall 1-0 wins. Which haven't gone for us this season because the framework, shape etc wasn't there. And the admission of the manager saying that he wanted to try and get more expansive.

We don't play any different against anyone. Yes there are a few minor tactical tweaks here and there but it's still the same way of playing.

There's not a switch that we can just flick.

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Post by Cirrus_Minor » Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:22 pm

Let's just thank our lucky stars he is our manager.
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Post by claretdj » Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:14 am

Bin Ont Turf wrote:I don't know what you were watching last season, but a lot of it was backs to the wall 1-0 wins. Which haven't gone for us this season because the framework, shape etc wasn't there. And the admission of the manager saying that he wanted to try and get more expansive.

We don't play any different against anyone. Yes there are a few minor tactical tweaks here and there but it's still the same way of playing.

There's not a switch that we can just flick.
N yet we are safe again, :D unlike Fulham who spent £100m on transfers n went down! so what do you want next season? Trust Sir Sean or do a Fulham? I await your reply!

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Post by SGr » Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:17 am

I was wrong to believe he wasn’t the man to keep us in the division, though I never believed there was anyone better to bring us back.

This second half of the season has been immense in all honesty. Hopefully, we have learnt from our shocker last summer. Time for a clear out.

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Post by CaptainKirk » Sun Apr 28, 2019 1:46 am

Still Happy and Still Clapping!

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Post by Wirvine » Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:28 am

Always been a Dyche fan but not blind to the fact that for the first half of the season he was struggling to find the best system and the best personnel to fit into it. Thank God he finally figured it out.

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