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Post by Whatsupdoc » Sun Apr 07, 2019 12:53 pm

Sun says Everton to cash in by selling Prickford for £50 million and replace him with Nick Pope from Burnley for £10 million. Ha Ha! Does everyone think we are completely stupid in the transfer market?

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Re: Pope

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Apr 07, 2019 12:56 pm

They may have got those figures the wrong way around.
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Re: Pope

Post by kaptin1 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:00 pm

Maybe they meant Joe Hart

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Re: Pope

Post by Bosscat » Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:00 pm

Whatsupdoc wrote:Sun says Everton to cash in by selling Prickford for £50 million and replace him with Nick Pope from Burnley for £10 million. Ha Ha! Does everyone think we are completely stupid in the transfer market?
Begovic overtook Prickfork yesterday for most errors leading to a goal yesterday....

1. Asmir Begovic 5
2. Jordan Pickford 4
3. Sol Bamba 3
3. Martin Dubravka 3
3. Bernd Leno 3
3. Alisson 3
7. Cédric Soares 2
7. Harry Arter 2
7. Charlie Daniels 2

I still struggle to see what people see in Pitchfork and if he is worth 50m how much is Tom worth ..
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Re: Pope

Post by Bosscat » Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:01 pm

kaptin1 wrote:Maybe they meant Joe Hart
They can have Hart for nowt :D

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Re: Pope

Post by jedi_master » Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:05 pm

Pope’s value will have decreased but I would still be expecting a minimum of £15m in this market, and be hoping for £20m.

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Re: Pope

Post by IanMcL » Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:12 pm

Pope should play the final matches, to boost his fee!

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Re: Pope

Post by fatboy47 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:13 pm

Nobodys going to pay big money for anyones third choice keeper. You can forget that.

As a young England keeper challenging Heaton for the first team slot here he'd have commanded a fat fee.....the signing of Hart has effectively buggered Popes England chances and reduced his value by anything up to £15m.
And God only knows why he's behind Hart.

Utterly mystifying stuff.
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Re: Pope

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:15 pm

Pickford is an overrated show pony bar brawling thug,I hate the sight of the big headed little shite
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Re: Pope

Post by dermotdermot » Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:25 pm

IanMcL wrote:Pope should play the final matches, to boost his fee!
Not a good idea.
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Re: Pope

Post by Bosscat » Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:33 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Pickford is an overrated show pony bar brawling thug,I hate the sight of the big headed little shite
Come on Steve don't hold back m8 tell it how it is ffs ;)

I agree by the way :D wholeheartedly :D
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Re: Pope

Post by Spijed » Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:34 pm

fatboy47 wrote:Nobodys going to pay big money for anyones third choice keeper. You can forget that.

As a young England keeper challenging Heaton for the first team slot here he'd have commanded a fat fee.....the signing of Hart has effectively buggered Popes England chances and reduced his value by anything up to £15m.
And God only knows why he's behind Hart.

Utterly mystifying stuff.
Then again, Hudson-Odoi was rated as a £35 million player even when he'd only played a couple of games for Chelsea!

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Re: Pope

Post by beddie » Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:37 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Pickford is an overrated show pony bar brawling thug,I hate the sight of the big headed little shite
Bizarrely and regardless of whether Everton have another good keeper or not they are insistent on picking him. What are Mr Kenwright and Co thinking about. If that had been me (the job was working for a law firm) I would have been disciplined and probably sacked.

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Re: Pope

Post by Dodobdobodobo » Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:38 pm

He shouldn’t be allowed to leave (and probably won’t). Tom has been brilliant but for me Pope is still number one.
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Re: Pope

Post by Shore claret » Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:44 pm

Why would anyone pay 50 million for pickford? There's probably 10 better goalkeeper's in the Premier league, the only thing he has is he's young.

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Re: Pope

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Apr 07, 2019 2:15 pm

fatboy47 wrote:Nobodys going to pay big money for anyones third choice keeper. You can forget that.

As a young England keeper challenging Heaton for the first team slot here he'd have commanded a fat fee.....the signing of Hart has effectively buggered Popes England chances and reduced his value by anything up to £15m.
And God only knows why he's behind Hart.

Utterly mystifying stuff.
No it hasnt.

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Re: Pope

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Apr 07, 2019 2:18 pm

not leaving .

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Re: Pope

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Apr 07, 2019 2:21 pm

15 million +25% sell on maybe. Doubt we'll get his true value now considering his lack of game time

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Re: Pope

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sun Apr 07, 2019 2:38 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Pickford is an overrated show pony bar brawling thug,I hate the sight of the big headed little shite
Leave the bar brawling thug out. Defending his fiancee from obscene abuse. Good on him.
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Re: Pope

Post by Dark Cloud » Sun Apr 07, 2019 2:44 pm

Who on Earth is going to buy Pickford for £50 million!? Surely that's a typo or a whopper, even by Sunday journo standards and as others have said Pope would easily command between £15 and 20 million in today's market. I know he's only had one PL season, but it was a bloody good one and it got him an England ticket to the WC!

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Re: Pope

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Apr 07, 2019 3:02 pm

so what do we do, do we keep Tom who is 32 which is about the prime age for a keeper or put our long term faith in Pope ? Tricky one, Heaton has been immense since the day he walked through through the doors, Pope was superb for the games he played last season. Pope is much more commanding when dealing with crosses and high balls imho, Heaton is tops at everything else. Not a decision I would like to make

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Re: Pope

Post by dougcollins » Sun Apr 07, 2019 3:11 pm

I won't be happy if this ends with selling Pope. I just don't feel there's any place for Hart here, move him on.

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Re: Pope

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Apr 07, 2019 3:13 pm

dougcollins wrote:I won't be happy if this ends with selling Pope. I just don't feel there's any place for Hart here, move him on.
Hart leaving must be a foregone conclusion, he won't be happy not playing so I would imagine he'll be first out of the door this summer

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Re: Pope

Post by Dark Cloud » Sun Apr 07, 2019 3:17 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:so what do we do, do we keep Tom who is 32 which is about the prime age for a keeper or put our long term faith in Pope ? Tricky one, Heaton has been immense since the day he walked through through the doors, Pope was superb for the games he played last season. Pope is much more commanding when dealing with crosses and high balls imho, Heaton is tops at everything else. Not a decision I would like to make
Spot on and yep somebody (including to a large extent the players themselves) has a very difficult decision to make. I actually believe Pope is overall the best of the 3 keepers, but no way could you drop Tom (Liverpool away not withstanding!) unless he gets hurt, so Pope is looking at a season on the bench if, as I would expect, Hart shuffles off stage left. Will Pope agree to that? I very much doubt it. So a real problem looming.

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Re: Pope

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 3:39 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:Leave the bar brawling thug out. Defending his fiancee from obscene abuse. Good on him.
No TT I'll leave it in if you don't mind, being half cut and not being able to walk away from provocation,the ginger prick is going to get involved in quite a lot of bar brawls,the little overrated shite. ;)

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Re: Pope

Post by exilecanada » Sun Apr 07, 2019 3:43 pm

There’s little question my mind that Hart and one of either Pope or Heaton will leave this summer, no way we will keep both Pope and Heaton. The brains trust will have some soul searching to do. Hart’s merely taking up space, it’s beyond me why Pope isn’t on the bench as back up, unless there’s something going on behind the scene.

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Re: Pope

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sun Apr 07, 2019 3:50 pm

Steve1956 wrote:No TT I'll leave it in if you don't mind, being half cut and not being able to walk away from provocation,the ginger prick is going to get involved in quite a lot of bar brawls,the little overrated shite. ;)
Well don’t waste your breath proposing. It's a no from me.

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Re: Pope

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Apr 07, 2019 3:56 pm

Whatsupdoc wrote:Sun says Everton to cash in by selling Prickford for £50 million and replace him with Nick Pope from Burnley for £10 million. Ha Ha! Does everyone think we are completely stupid in the transfer market?
I'd accept a straight swap for Lookman :lol:

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Re: Pope

Post by AlargeClaret » Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:04 pm

10-15m be a good price , sad to see him go but he’s a top keeper . It’s insane how our domestic keepers are generally ignored by the prem clubs .

Pickford won’t be leaving Everton , we’ll certainly not over that bar handbags anyway .I personally think Heaton and Butland are fractionally better overall but JP has a tremendous take off for dives and he’s been tagged at Eng level since a 9yo. Don’t anyone doubt he’s a top keeper but he doesn’t quite have that the coolness the greats like Schmechael, Buffon , Banks etc had imo

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Re: Pope

Post by Shore claret » Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:40 pm

I think Hart will Be bound for American shores sooner rather than later.
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Post by Bosscat » Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:41 pm

Shore claret wrote:I think Hart will Be bound for American shores sooner rather than later.
Its a long swim
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Re: Pope

Post by Bosscat » Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:42 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:10-15m be a good price , sad to see him go but he’s a top keeper . It’s insane how our domestic keepers are generally ignored by the prem clubs .

Pickford won’t be leaving Everton , we’ll certainly not over that bar handbags anyway .I personally think Heaton and Butland are fractionally better overall but JP has a tremendous take off for dives and he’s been tagged at Eng level since a 9yo. Don’t anyone doubt he’s a top keeper but he doesn’t quite have that the coolness the greats like Schmechael, Buffon , Banks etc had imo
Who's JP?

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Re: Pope

Post by Shore claret » Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:43 pm

Hed drop his goggles

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Re: Pope

Post by Taffy on the wing » Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:49 pm

Dodobdobodobo wrote:He shouldn’t be allowed to leave (and probably won’t). Tom has been brilliant but for me Pope is still number one.
I agree!.....He comes to collect so many crosses, Tom sticks to his line as does Hart.

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Re: Pope

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:54 pm

Bosscat wrote:Who's JP?
Jordan Pickford

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Re: Pope

Post by Bosscat » Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:21 pm

:lol:
Vegas Claret wrote:Jordan Pickford
Who's he :lol:

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Re: Pope

Post by Bfc » Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:56 pm

Pope is wanting a move, which is understandable, given his lack of game time and standing as an England player being affected. This info is from someone close to him, (no puns please, it's fact).
But this part I don't know is, which 1 is Dyche going to consider losing of the 3 goalkeepers. I would consider Hart to be the likely one, because he's the poorest of the 3. However both the board and manager may consider the transfer fee received for Pope could be put into the transfer pot, for next season.
Pope might also be told (I hope) he is under contract and stay to fight for his place.

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Re: Pope

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:58 pm

Bosscat wrote::lol:
Who's he :lol:
a seriously over rated goalkeeper

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Re: Pope

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Apr 07, 2019 6:00 pm

it's interesting that all the clubs being linked with Heaton before he got back in the team were in the Championship, I've only ever seen PL clubs linked with Pope

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Re: Pope

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:19 am

Vegas Claret wrote:so what do we do, do we keep Tom who is 32 which is about the prime age for a keeper or put our long term faith in Pope ? Tricky one, Heaton has been immense since the day he walked through through the doors, Pope was superb for the games he played last season. Pope is much more commanding when dealing with crosses and high balls imho, Heaton is tops at everything else. Not a decision I would like to make
We could loan out Pope and keep Hart.

Heaton keeps number one at his peak.
Pope gets game time to prove fitness ahead of challenging the year after.
We have excellent backup and don't have to buy a new keeper.

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Re: Pope

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:44 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:We could loan out Pope and keep Hart.

Heaton keeps number one at his peak.
Pope gets game time to prove fitness ahead of challenging the year after.
We have excellent backup and don't have to buy a new keeper.
Hart needs to leave 100% for his own career and to free up a wage.
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Re: Pope

Post by edison » Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:04 am

Vegas Claret wrote:so what do we do, do we keep Tom who is 32 which is about the prime age for a keeper or put our long term faith in Pope ? Tricky one, Heaton has been immense since the day he walked through through the doors, Pope was superb for the games he played last season. Pope is much more commanding when dealing with crosses and high balls imho, Heaton is tops at everything else. Not a decision I would like to make
Hang onto both

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Re: Pope

Post by houseboy » Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:31 am

Whatsupdoc wrote:Sun says Everton to cash in by selling Prickford for £50 million and replace him with Nick Pope from Burnley for £10 million. Ha Ha! Does everyone think we are completely stupid in the transfer market?
Mmmm. Well.....possibly yes. ;)

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Re: Pope

Post by Woodleyclaret » Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:53 am

Our give away prices of players is legendary.
I hope this ended with Hoos leaving but Sam Vokes left far too cheaply.Hopefully we can get our money back on Hart and Vydra and our purchases are better manged

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Re: Pope

Post by Goobs » Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:02 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:Our give away prices of players is legendary.
I hope this ended with Hoos leaving but Sam Vokes left far too cheaply.Hopefully we can get our money back on Hart and Vydra and our purchases are better manged
What a load of rubbish. We are usually quite good at getting a decent price for players (see Jay, Austin, Keane, Fletcher, Thomas)

Please don't be one of the people that mentions Trippier as though we had any choice in the matter.

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Re: Pope

Post by AlargeClaret » Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:26 am

Bad business like Andre Gray ? Keane ? Jay Rod etc etc ? Trips and Ings were out of our hands . Personally I also thought 7 ish milk for Vokes plus Crouch wasn’t a bad bit of business at all . SV needed games and Crouch was pretty much a freebie .

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Re: Pope

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Re: Pope

Post by IanMcL » Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:09 pm

Pope is best but will be snapped up sooner or later. Heaton next best and content at Burnley.

Hart will go ...somewhere else.
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Re: Pope

Post by No Ney Never » Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:06 pm

£10m for Pope in the current market has to be laughable, I would be hoping for something in the region of £30m given his age and proven ability. I would be open to a season long loan to Everton, as I believe a good performance would place him in a more realistic price bracket should he wish to move on. I would like him to remain at Burnley, in my opinion he is the best keeper we have.

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Re: Pope

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:18 pm

He's playing for the U23s this afternoon.

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