Julian Assange

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:41 am

Arrested in the Ecuador embassy. ...BBC

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:03 am

Good.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:04 am

Who ?

middleton claret · Post by **middleton claret** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:06 am

Pamela Anderson will be disappointed !!.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:09 am

LoveCurryPies wrote:Good.

Why is that a good thing?

For exposing how shady the governments in the west are?

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:11 am

CoolClaret wrote:Why is that a good thing?

For exposing how shady the governments in the west are?

Nope, for allegedly having sex with women without their consent, then avoiding proceedings for it.

LeadBelly · Post by **LeadBelly** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:12 am

The rape case in Sweden has been dropped I recall but he's initially wanted here for breaching his bail when Uk were looking to co-operate with Sweden over that.
I doubt Assange has much to fear directly from UK or Swedish courts; US courts may be another matter. Interesting to see how this develops from a legal perspective.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:17 am

LeadBelly wrote:....US courts may be another matter.

Probably bound for a spell in Gitmo if POTUS has his way.

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:21 am

CoolClaret wrote:Why is that a good thing?

For exposing how shady the governments in the west are?

For hiding away in an Embassy for years. Would you or I get away with that?

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:33 am

Room Service bill should be interesting

Burnley Ace · Post by **Burnley Ace** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:57 am

As the Swedish extradition request has been withdrawn is it correct that all he has facing him in the U.K. Court is breaching his bail conditions (to reside in Norfolk?).

As it’s 7 years ago are the CPS out of time to lay any Information for failing to attend Court or was that done?

Given the normal punishment- is it in the public interest to pursue this

How ironic would it be if the US didn’t apply to extradite him (the US would apply to U.K. as Sweden no longer interested?)

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:05 pm

It will be interesting this one. Obviously the US were very keen on getting their hands on him but then Wikileaks (possibly indirectly) supported Trump's campaign through the tactical release of information so they may not be as keen as they were to have him testify.

I think the reason the UK couldn't extradite directly to the US was there was a possibility, although remote, of the death penalty being applied.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:09 pm

CoolClaret wrote:Why is that a good thing?

For exposing how shady the governments in the west are?

He failed to surrender to court. The stitched-up rape case has been dropped so he doesn't have to worry about that but he should still face justice for the failure to surrender.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:25 pm

Waste of his life for 7 years the plonker.

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:37 pm

Certainly aged somewhat.

4:20 · Post by **4:20** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:48 pm

I knew people were ****** at The Killers headlining Glastonbury in 2019, but this is a bit OTT for my liking.

Edit, in all seriousness though, this is what Wikileaks just tweeted out..

Julian Assange will be taken to Westminster Magistrates court this afternoon. He has been arrested under a US extradition warrant for conspiracy with
@xychelsea for publishing classified information revealing war crimes in 2010.

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:59 pm

Rock up at an embassy and behave like an arsehole for nearly seven years and sooner or later they are going to throw you under a bus.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:02 pm

4:20 wrote:I knew people were ****** at The Killers headlining Glastonbury in 2019, but this is a bit OTT for my liking.

Edit, in all seriousness though, this is what Wikileaks just tweeted out..

Julian Assange will be taken to Westminster Magistrates court this afternoon. He has been arrested under a US extradition warrant for conspiracy with
@xychelsea for publishing classified information revealing war crimes in 2010.

Which, in my view, would completely justify his failure to surrender. But that's not what the BBC reported, and i trust the BBC more than I trust a Russian propaganda arm.

Edit: No, looks like theyr'e right. My info was out of date.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/live/ ... ve-updates" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

4:20 · Post by **4:20** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:05 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Which, in my view, would completely justify his failure to surrender. But that's not what the BBC reported, and i trust the BBC more than I trust a Russian propaganda arm.

Fair do's,

Edit, just seen your edit, still fair do's...emerging story and all that

theroyaldyche · Post by **theroyaldyche** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:42 pm

middleton claret wrote:Pamela Anderson will be disappointed !!.

i bet he's gone straight thru that

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:52 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:Good.

Not good in the least.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:57 pm

4:20 wrote:I knew people were ****** at The Killers headlining Glastonbury in 2019, but this is a bit OTT for my liking.

The Killers are one of only a very small number of bands these days that can class as headliners.

Some awful line ups doing the rounds this year and a lot of festivals not bothering going ahead.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:08 pm

For anyone interested or who may have forgot, this was what really got the US upset at him and why various public figures were openly musing about the US assassinating him, which is one of the reasons Assange was extremely suspicious about being extradited to Sweden over a rape case that had already been thrown out, and the Swedish authorities refusal to question him in the UK (because that was all the extradition request was for - questioning, not charges or a trial).

https://collateralmurder.wikileaks.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Braindead · Post by **Braindead** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:24 pm

I'll be amazed if there isn't an RIP thread about Assange within the next two years.

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:27 pm

Before we get to 'tin foil' hat about this, he was a bit of a sex pest who hid in a cupboard for years.

Not sure the charges got 'thrown out' either. The minor ones just expired because the Swedes couldn't get hold of him.

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:32 pm

NottsClaret wrote:... he was a bit of a sex pest who hid in a cupboard for years...

Succinct and accurate.

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:38 pm

NottsClaret wrote:Before we get to 'tin foil' hat about this, he was a bit of a sex pest who hid in a cupboard for years.

Yep. In a cupboard hiding from justice.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:42 pm

NottsClaret wrote:Before we get to 'tin foil' hat about this, he was a bit of a sex pest who hid in a cupboard for years.

Not sure the charges got 'thrown out' either. The minor ones just expired because the Swedes couldn't get hold of him.

I didn't say charges. But the investigation was certainly ended by the prosecutor shortly after it begun. Then it was picked up by someone else, for some reason.

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:47 pm

I bet the police end up going back to the Ecuadorian embassy tonight. "We know it's a long awaited 'going away' party, but can you please keep the noise down?"

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:08 pm

How I think I look V How I actually look

: assange.jpg (108.65 KiB) Viewed 2997 times

SmudgetheClaret · Post by **SmudgetheClaret** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:57 pm

And suddenly the left go stone cold quiet about human rights ..........how odd

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:12 pm

SmudgetheClaret wrote:And suddenly the left go stone cold quiet about human rights ..........how odd

Still detached from reality, eh?

SmudgetheClaret · Post by **SmudgetheClaret** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:07 pm

NottsClaret wrote:Before we get to 'tin foil' hat about this, he was a bit of a sex pest who hid in a cupboard for years.

Not sure the charges got 'thrown out' either. The minor ones just expired because the Swedes couldn't get hold of him.

You release truthful information about the Democrats and all of a sudden the sexual allegations fly now why does that sound familiar? oh yes TRUMP

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:12 pm

There will be many in America who will certainly not want Assange testifying in any US court.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:15 pm

FCBurnley wrote:There will be many in America who will certainly not want Assange testifying in any US court.

If that’s the case he might live happily ever after.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:16 pm

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:18 pm

SmudgetheClaret wrote:You release truthful information about the Democrats and all of a sudden the sexual allegations fly now why does that sound familiar? oh yes TRUMP

I remind you that George W. Bush was the president when this happened. The video of which was leaked to Wikileaks and published.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_12,_ ... _airstrike" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

But you don't care about facts. My only hope is that someone reading your lies also reads my truth.

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:23 pm

presumed Ecuador allowed his arrest based on some legal point that he won’t be extradited to a country with the death penalty . I’d have thought Sweden his best bet , couple of years inside listening to ABBA whilst having his balls tickled then a life eating meatballs with some occasional consensual ? Blonde on blonde action

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:24 pm

The tin foil hats will love this though

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:20 pm

A mixed day for the Ecuadorian Embassy - yes they get a broom cupboard back, but they also have to deal with an inevitable one-star TripAdvisor review.

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:20 pm

Shame. My heart bleeds.

SmudgetheClaret · Post by **SmudgetheClaret** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:50 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I remind you that George W. Bush was the president when this happened. The video of which was leaked to Wikileaks and published.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_12,_ ... _airstrike" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

But you don't care about facts. My only hope is that someone reading your lies also reads my truth.

reads your truth what like the 200 times you told everyone Trump colluded with the Russians

AndrewJB · Post by **AndrewJB** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:34 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:presumed Ecuador allowed his arrest based on some legal point that he won’t be extradited to a country with the death penalty . I’d have thought Sweden his best bet , couple of years inside listening to ABBA whilst having his balls tickled then a life eating meatballs with some occasional consensual ? Blonde on blonde action

At the time it was suggested that the US would attempt to extradite him from Sweden if he ended up there.

As for Wikileaks embarrassing the US ten years ago with their release of secret US documents; that is actually the US embarrassing themselves. Would it be just for a person who enabled the bringing to light of US war crimes in Iraq to be sent to the US and tried as an enemy agent?

It's unfortunate, but normal for a country to have secrets. And it's understandable for a country to want to punish one of it's own citizens for betraying that secrecy (to which you can imagine they swore an oath). However if a country has a secret which is a crime, and it tries to cover this up, and someone from outside that country makes it public, then it has to be doubly shameful for that country to punish that person for it.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:11 am

AndrewJB wrote:At the time it was suggested that the US would attempt to extradite him from Sweden if he ended up there.

As for Wikileaks embarrassing the US ten years ago with their release of secret US documents; that is actually the US embarrassing themselves. Would it be just for a person who enabled the bringing to light of US war crimes in Iraq to be sent to the US and tried as an enemy agent?

It's unfortunate, but normal for a country to have secrets. And it's understandable for a country to want to punish one of it's own citizens for betraying that secrecy (to which you can imagine they swore an oath). However if a country has a secret which is a crime, and it tries to cover this up, and someone from outside that country makes it public, then it has to be doubly shameful for that country to punish that person for it.

It really depends on whether Assange induced the leak, or simply accepted the leak. If he encouraged it then he committed a crime and should be prosecuted for that. But if he's prosecuted for anything related to the actual publication of the video then that's so far beyond ****** up that it wouldn't actually surprise me from this administration.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:36 am

Would he have been prosecuted if he'd been extradited to the US under the Obama administration?

If yes, then would that be a surprise from that administration?

RammyClaret61 · Post by **RammyClaret61** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:29 am

His asylum status was revoked by the Ecuadorians. Something to do with Wikileaks releasing something about the President of Ecuador and corruption.

thelifeofbrian · Post by **thelifeofbrian** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:46 am

CombatClaret wrote:How I think I look V How I actually look

assange.jpg

Uncle Albert!!!

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:52 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:... stitched-up rape case ...

From any other poster, that would be a very strange thing to say. From you? Not so much.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:58 pm

thatdberight wrote:From any other poster, that would be a very strange thing to say. From you? Not so much.

What you on about?

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:00 pm

Seems like Assange is something else the far right, and the far left agree on.
Along with Assad and Jewish people