Just heard on a stream, that Dyche is furious with Stan over comments made this week over Warnock.
Can anyone enlighten me?

Stan's not employed by the club is he?

Anything he could say about Warnock would be very predictable - we all know (and probably share) his opinion of Warnock.

So why would Dyche be "furious" about anything like this? He'd probably shrug it off with a laugh.

No idea Rowls. Just caught tail end of commentators comment.

I saw Stan on the Goals on Sunday show, with Blackwell, many years ago and he was still fuming about it. Blackwell was as good as telling him it was a wind up but Stan wasn't for having it.
Their animosity goes back a long, long time.

Stan knows how to hold a grudge. I know many people who have wronged me, but over time I can never remember why.

claptrappers_union wrote:Stan knows how to hold a grudge. I know many people who have wronged me, but over time I can never remember why.

Good point, clappers.

What's the story behind the animosity? I know I've disliked Colin since Stan was manager but can't remember why at all.

claretabroad wrote:What's the story behind the animosity? I know I've disliked Colin since Stan was manager but can't remember why at all.

Story has it when we played Sheff Utd at Brammell Lane, Warnock sent some of his staff to go listen to Stans talk behind the door of the dressing room

claretabroad wrote:What's the story behind the animosity? I know I've disliked Colin since Stan was manager but can't remember why at all.

You and all the other fans calling him a w*nker then! Don't get the animosity at all.

wilks_bfc wrote:Story has it when we played Sheff Utd at Brammell Lane, Warnock sent some of his staff to go listen to Stans talk behind the door of the dressing room

Wasn't it Kevin Blackwell who was and still is Warnocks assistant who was sent by Warnock to listen in to Stans half time team talk?
Stan found Blackwell listening outside our changing room door and allegedly punches were thrown
And since then Stan and Blackwell have been good buddies but Stan has never forgotten it was Warnocks idea to listen in

That's what I heard but not sure if true

Given the kind of last eighteen months or so that Stan's just had, I reckon Warnock will be the last thing on his mind.

mkmel wrote:Wasn't it Kevin Blackwell who was and still is Warnocks assistant who was sent by Warnock to listen in to Stans half time team talk?
Stan found Blackwell listening outside our changing room door and allegedly punches were thrown
And since then Stan and Blackwell have been good buddies but Stan has never forgotten it was Warnocks idea to listen in

That's what I heard but not sure if true

That is documented in Stan's autobiography.

But I really can't see how any of this could be rel;evant to Sean Dyche

mkmel wrote:Wasn't it Kevin Blackwell who was and still is Warnocks assistant who was sent by Warnock to listen in to Stans half time team talk?
Stan found Blackwell listening outside our changing room door and allegedly punches were thrown
And since then Stan and Blackwell have been good buddies but Stan has never forgotten it was Warnocks idea to listen in

That's what I heard but not sure if true

It dates back much further than that. I can’t remember which clubs they were at at the time though. It’s in Stan’s book, I think Colin accused one of Stan’s players of something but the details escape me.

The eave dropping at the dressing room is well known.

I also understand that Warnock took over Bury after Stan had a fallout as their manager. Warnock took the shakers up and claimed all the credit, when Stan believed, right or wrong I don't know, that he had done all the donkey work and put the pieces in place.

Stan's message to Colin

claretabroad wrote:What's the story behind the animosity? I know I've disliked Colin since Stan was manager but can't remember why at all.

It goes back to when Stan was at Hull. Warnock accused one of Stan’s players of headbutting one of his players in the tunnel area. Stan disagreed and that was the start of it.

The player who supposedly head butted was Leigh Palin who played one game for us.

There seems to be a lot of head butting stories in Stan's archive.



Off the top of my own head... Ron Futcher, Kevin Blackwell, David May.

I'm sure there are others!

I thought it was when Stan had left Bury for us and Colin took over and accused Stan of poaching players and undermining his chances of keeping Bury in the championship

taffy wrote:I thought it was when Stan had left Bury for us and Colin took over and accused Stan of poaching players and undermining his chances of keeping Bury in the championship

Pretty much my understanding.

boatshed bill wrote:That is documented in Stan's autobiography.

That Chapter is Very Funny!

HunterST_BFC wrote:That Chapter is Very Funny!

I must read that book again.

fidelcastro wrote:There seems to be a lot of head butting stories in Stan's archive.



Off the top of my own head... Ron Futcher, Kevin Blackwell, David May.

I'm sure there are others!

Wasn't there also a run in with Ian Porterfield in his Chelsea days?

i also remember Colin saying something about Stan's days in management showing disregard for the wellbeing of the opposition (I'm putting that as mildly as possible as I can't quote exactly),

Steve1956 wrote:I must read that book again.

Even just for the first two pages - best opening to an autobiog' ever
+ the Colin Chapter

boatshed bill wrote:i also remember Colin saying something about Stan's days in management showing disregard for the wellbeing of the opposition (I'm putting that as mildly as possible as I can't quote exactly),

I remember thinking the same when Stan's Bury side were beaten 3-1 at the Turf. Especially the performance of a certain Lenny Johnrose that day.

Stan's sides were hard and often pushed the limit of what was acceptable. It made for a successful formula and without Stan we might still be skulking round the lower leagues so I won't hear a bad word against him.

What I will say is this - if any manager in the football league (past or present) is holy enough to criticize Stan for his approach then at the very last of that long line, next to Satan himself and just behind of Graeme Souness, will be Neil fricking Wazzock.

Warnock can take a hike. Stan is a Claret.

Here endeth the debate.

It goes back further than the eavesdropping incident. He does say in the book that he won't reveal the reason for the hatred against Warnock.

Goobs wrote:Wasn't there also a run in with Ian Porterfield in his Chelsea days?

And the incident at the worsley cup final!

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:And the incident at the worsley cup final!

What was the incident at the Worsley cup final?

fidelcastro wrote:There seems to be a lot of head butting stories in Stan's archive.



Off the top of my own head... Ron Futcher, Kevin Blackwell, David May.

I'm sure there are others!

Pretty much every chapter in the book was about Stan fighting with someone wasn't it? Although I'm sure Tony Livesey used a bit of artistic license with some parts!

djemba-djemba wrote:What was the incident at the Worsley cup final?

Stan accidentally headbutted someone and ended up in court over it.

TomtheClaret wrote:Just heard on a stream, that Dyche is furious with Stan over comments made this week over Warnock.
Can anyone enlighten me?

My dad was a fire officer and I remember him telling me they were called to the club once. I forget the reason why but they needed to get there quick (gas leak / fire). Stan was driving out and he refused to reverse to let the fire engine in. My Dad said they had words and he eventually reversed to let them in.

Stan was a good manager, but from other stories I've heard about him he sounds like a bit of a bellend.

Just 2 lads (Northern at that), having a bit of a scrap. What's wrong with that?

I always find it funny that Stans old mate Ronnie Jepson works alongside Warnock as a coach at Cardiff.

Caused me a double take the other day, seeing him pushing a wheelbarrow thru Barrowford.

Goobs wrote:Wasn't there also a run in with Ian Porterfield in his Chelsea days?

Porterfield was manager, Stan was coach. They were playing up North and Stan wanted to go off with his wife and friends after the match. Chelsea had a bad defeat and Porterfield refused him permission and made him travel back down Sarf.

taffy wrote:I thought it was when Stan had left Bury for us and Colin took over and accused Stan of poaching players and undermining his chances of keeping Bury in the championship

No, it was the Palin incident at Hull. I got that from Stan.

Bosscat wrote:I always find it funny that Stans old mate Ronnie Jepson works alongside Warnock as a coach at Cardiff.

Warnock has had Jepson on his staff at most of the clubs he has managed since 2007...at Palace,QPR & weeds.

Also,Warnock bought Jeppo from Exeter when he was manager of Huddersfield.