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Match of the Day

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:28 pm

Order of play:

1. Spuds vs Huds.
2. Man U vs West Ham U
3. Brighton vs Bournemouth
4. Southampton vs Wolves
5. BURNLEY vs Cardiff
6. Fulham vs Everton
7. Leicester vs Newcastle

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by HunterST_BFC » Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:38 pm

Hope they show "The Kiss" with suitable background music :lol:

maybe Whitney "And I Will always..." :lol:

or ? any better ones?
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Re: Match of the Day

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:38 pm

About 11.30pm to tune in then.

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by Fenwick » Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:45 pm

HunterST_BFC wrote:Hope they show "The Kiss" with suitable background music :lol:

maybe Whitney "And I Will always..." :lol:

or ? any better ones?
Kiss Me by Sixpence non the richer.

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:47 pm

Fenwick wrote:Kiss Me by Sixpence non the richer.
That's the song that entered my head too!

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by HunterST_BFC » Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:49 pm

A Yellow for this?

I wonder how far he's gotta go to get a red? :shock: :lol:

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by gawthorpe_view » Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:51 pm

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:52 pm

gawthorpe_view wrote:https://youtu.be/k3Fa4lOQfbA
And that song, didn't enter my head.
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Re: Match of the Day

Post by Nonayforever » Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:58 pm

In terms of entertainment we should be last !

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by Bosscat » Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:00 pm

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HunterST_BFC wrote:Hope they show "The Kiss" with suitable background music :lol:

maybe Whitney "And I Will always..." :lol:

or ? any better ones?
Here you are :lol:
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Re: Match of the Day

Post by tiger76 » Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:40 pm

How dire are Huddersfield,spuds could've had 7 or 8,even without Kane.

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by Chester Perry » Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:46 pm

expect all the talk to be about Cardiff and pen not pen

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:14 pm

We're on next.

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:14 pm

Knockhaert deserves to be banned until the end of the season
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Re: Match of the Day

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:16 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Knockhaert deserves to be banned until the end of the season
Would you have him in our squad?

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by tiger76 » Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:25 pm

Ings getting praised,2 in 2 for Shane Long,Hasenhuttl has done a great job for the Saints.

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:36 pm

The Taylor tackle did look like a penalty. It didn't look to me from the angle, that he won the ball.

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by Vino blanco » Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:39 pm

Ian Wright says they could have three penalties. I love the man to bits. Tosser.

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by Shore claret » Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:40 pm

Chester Perry wrote:expect all the talk to be about Cardiff and pen not pen
You must be a fortune teller, have you got next week's lottery numbers?

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by scouseclaret » Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:42 pm

FactualFrank wrote:The Taylor tackle did look like a penalty. It didn't look to me from the angle, that he won the ball.
Taylor is clearly pushed over by Gunnarson!
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Re: Match of the Day

Post by tiger76 » Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:42 pm

FactualFrank wrote:The Taylor tackle did look like a penalty. It didn't look to me from the angle, that he won the ball.
Possibly yes i think he got away with one there,the fact that Gunnarsson was pulling himself,might have made Dean call it 6 and half a dozen,thankfully for us.

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by Blyclaret » Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:42 pm

Wright couldent wait to say penalties
Was a great player but a toss pot of a man.
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Re: Match of the Day

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:43 pm

That first one is a pen under current rules and with VAR next season (not that I agree with it, as where else it he supposed to put his arms?)

Other two no way, and how the hell the linesman gave it with his view is ridiculous. No wonder Dean disallowed it.

But MOTD didn't mention how dominant we were first half, and we should have been out of sight.

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by Chester Perry » Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:45 pm

Shore claret wrote:You must be a fortune teller, have you got next week's lottery numbers?
unfortunately match of the Day is much easier to predict and if I could must admit I would be quite selfish on the lottery numbers

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:45 pm

scouseclaret wrote:Taylor is clearly pushed over by Gunnarson!
tiger76 wrote:Possibly yes i think he got away with one there,the fact that Gunnarsson was pulling himself,might have made Dean call it 6 and half a dozen,thankfully for us.
Yeah possibly.

Ian Wright didn't surprise me though. Perhaps beyond a joke for him though. We know he doesn't like us and he has an axe to grind - yet they still employ him. That's a bit daft.

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:49 pm

Whilst stalking the northstand forum earlier they were debating a tete a tete between Mepham and Andone. Both got yellows and they thought Mepham should have seen red. MotD didn’t even show it.
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Re: Match of the Day

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:51 pm

"So Ian... why do you hate Burnley so much?"
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Re: Match of the Day

Post by tiger76 » Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:52 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Yeah possibly.

Ian Wright didn't surprise me though. Perhaps beyond a joke for him though. We know he doesn't like us and he has an axe to grind - yet they still employ him. That's a bit daft.
I've never understood Ian Wright's gripe with BFC,we prolonged his career for a few months,and he played a vital role in our promotion.

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by duncandisorderly » Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:52 pm

With VAR I reckon all three are given, rightly or not. The first one blocks a goal bound effort, which I know isn't the law, but the opinion of the ref is the one that matters (e.g the silly penalty Man Utd got against PSG).
The second one looks like he moves his hand towards the ball. He doesn't, it's just his arm moving with his body as he jumps, but if that's given in the World Cup final, then it's given in the Premier League.
If you got 10 top flight refs to look at the Taylor one then I reckon five of them give it, so that's luck of the draw. Taylor fouled him but only after being fouled first.

All of these have written laws stating why they aren't penalties, but VAR will need to be justified.

Incidentally, I reckon Dean might be the main ref to stand against VAR and trust his eyes and judgement over it, more so than younger refs.

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by thelaughingclaret » Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:53 pm

Ian Wright truly is unbearable. I don’t know what happened during his brief time with us but I’m pretty sure that he now hates us.
He has no idea at all of the laws of the game if he thinks just because a shot is on target it’s automatically deliberate hand ball, and yet the BBC employ him! Anyone off the street knows more about the rules of football then he does. Very poor ‘pundit’.

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:01 am

FactualFrank wrote:Would you have him in our squad?
not for me, a few years ago maybe but he's gone backwards and seems to believe his own hype

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by SparkyClaret » Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:05 am

First penalty shout for Cardiff was no different to the one Wolves had - way too close to the man for him to react. The second was a result of Ben Mee apparently having a 50p head and his arm was by his side. The third between Taylor and Gunnarsson is probably the closest to being a penalty, but given his back was to Gunnarsson I think it would have been incredibly harsh

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by Lord Beamish » Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:10 am

Thirty Nine Points.
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Re: Match of the Day

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:12 am

SparkyClaret wrote:First penalty shout for Cardiff was no different to the one Wolves had - way too close to the man for him to react. The second was a result of Ben Mee apparently having a 50p head and his arm was by his side. The third between Taylor and Gunnarsson is probably the closest to being a penalty, but given his back was to Gunnarsson I think it would have been incredibly harsh
I'm a huge fan of Taylor, as well you all know, but I can also see a foul. That to me, from the Sky Sports angle and MOTD... it's a foul. We got lucky.

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by SparkyClaret » Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:23 am

FactualFrank wrote:I'm a huge fan of Taylor, as well you all know, but I can also see a foul. That to me, from the Sky Sports angle and MOTD... it's a foul. We got lucky.
I think Taylor has been fantastic for us this season, but I think he's falling as he makes contact with the Cardiff player behind him. I don't think it's intentional to bring the man down, but happy to agree to disagree :)
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Re: Match of the Day

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:28 am

First one Mee didn’t move his hand towards the ball, and it was in a natural position.
Second one is accidental, European interpretation is to give them, Premier League is not to, so Dean got it consistent with the PL
Third one, Taylor gets a toe on the ball I thought, but there could have been man at the same time. Hard to tell.

So, no conclusive penalties.

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by scouseclaret » Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:29 am

tiger76 wrote:Possibly yes i think he got away with one there,the fact that Gunnarsson was pulling himself,might have made Dean call it 6 and half a dozen,thankfully for us.
No it’s not six and half a dozen. It’s a clear and obvious push,as a result of which Taylor is lying face down on the Turf when he catches Gunnarsson. If it’s a foul at all, the first foul is committed by the Cardiff player.

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by JarrowClaret » Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:33 am

I don’t understand why people think that certain pundits hate us because they say something about us he is paid to give an opinion. What he said is fare I think, all 3 could have been given on another day, i personally don’t think any were penalties certainly not the handballs anyway but he is entitled to his opinion.

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:36 am

JarrowClaret wrote:I don’t understand why people think that certain pundits hate us because they say something about us he is paid to give an opinion. What he said is fare I think, all 3 could have been given on another day, i personally don’t think any were penalties certainly not the handballs anyway but he is entitled to his opinion.
What you say is absolutely spot on... if it was a one-off.

When they say the same thing time... and time... and time... again. It's tiring.

You won't appreciate that unless you watch enough of what they say.

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by JarrowClaret » Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:38 am

He has also been complimentary at times last season and this, it is opinions nothing more nothing less.

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by Bop » Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:44 am

Loved it when Wrighty signed for us. Gave us real impetus. Seemed to leave on good terms. I’d agree with many on here that he really - consistently - doesn’t seem to like or favour us. Bit strange..
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Re: Match of the Day

Post by Rick_Muller » Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:53 am

For anyone who missed it - Taylor was shoved in the back before he went to ground - he was fouled first. Never a penalty.

The Mee handballs - first one, Wright is a cock - no way can Ben get his hand out of the way and so what if it was on target it was ball to hand not hand to ball. Learn the rules you dumb tw@t. Second one, again ball to hand, but I have seen them given in our favour.

Tarky’s knee Cleared the other “claim”.
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Re: Match of the Day

Post by ElectroClaret » Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:59 am

Charlie definitely got his toe on the ball when he had that second stab at it, and knocked the ball away from the Cardiff lad.

No penalty.
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Re: Match of the Day

Post by addisclaret » Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:13 am

tiger76 wrote:Possibly yes i think he got away with one there,the fact that Gunnarsson was pulling himself,might have made Dean call it 6 and half a dozen,thankfully for us.
God, we've got players kissing and people pulling themselves. What's the game coming to? Disgusting! :)

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:46 am

ElectroClaret wrote:Charlie definitely got his toe on the ball when he had that second stab at it, and knocked the ball away from the Brighton lad.

No penalty.
no he didn't and we weren't playing Brighton

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:16 am

Rick_Muller wrote:For anyone who missed it - Taylor was shoved in the back before he went to ground - he was fouled first. Never a penalty.
He definitely did you can’t really use that to defend Dean’s decision not to give it.

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by Colburn_Claret » Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:24 am

FactualFrank wrote:I'm a huge fan of Taylor, as well you all know, but I can also see a foul. That to me, from the Sky Sports angle and MOTD... it's a foul. We got lucky.
How can you not see that Gunnarsson pushes him in the back, and if you do see him push him over how can it be a pen?

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:27 am

Gunnarsson pushed Charlie then dived over Charlies leg
Never a penalty

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:30 am

Colburn_Claret wrote:How can you not see that Gunnarsson pushes him in the back, and if you do see him push him over how can it be a pen?
Because the ref didn’t think Taylor was pushed so that part of the debate is irrelevant. For the record I don’t think it was a penalty but not because Taylor was pushed.

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Re: Match of the Day

Post by JohnMcGreal » Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:34 am

The linesman got it right by flagging for a penalty. I thought it was a penalty all day long. If you look at Mee's position before the ball comes in, he's set all wrong. He misjudges the flight of the ball and knows he's about to make a complete hash of the header. He brings his arm up in anticipation of this and ends up heading it on to himself. He was very lucky to have it overturned in my view.

The other 2 shouts. Nah.

Hard lines, Neil. Good riddance.

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