Kit supplier

Crewe claret · Post by **Crewe claret** » Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:16 pm

Question, is this the last season with Puma and has anyone heard of new supplier ?

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:19 pm

Umbro new supplier from next season

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:53 pm

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1968claret · Post by **1968claret** » Sun Apr 14, 2019 4:31 pm

If we are going with Umbro then I hope we have an all yellow away kit, with claret and blue diamonds on sleeves and shorts.
We should also bring Billy Hamilton back to model it! Complete with socks round ankles look

Bfc · Post by **Bfc** » Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:18 pm

Expect some Green in the away strip.

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:53 am

Umbro served us well with kit designs through the years. It'll be nice to have them back on board

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:14 pm

My first ever own football shirt (aged 9), was an Umbro V neck in yellow with black trim. (My primary school played in yellow and black stripes)

As I am 65 going on 66, they have been around a long time!

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:53 pm

Although kits weren’t branded back then I thought we wore umbro shirts and bukta boots for the 1962 FA Cup final. I can’t find any proof but the wiki link does say they had a deal with the FA and did the cup final balls.
Some older supporter might be able to confirm or deny.

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burnmark · Post by **burnmark** » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:23 am

Bfc wrote:Expect some Green in the away strip.

Green?

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:36 am

burnmark wrote:Green?

Merge with the playing area so we have an excuse for poor passing

JTClaret · Post by **JTClaret** » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:56 am

Is this the first year we've had a black kit and not been relegated?

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:48 am

We had umbro kits for years, going way back. I seem to remember as a kid trying Atwells shirt on from the 47 cup final and being surprised it was umbro made. And the wife's grandad Reg Kirkhams shirt from the early 50s was umbro made. I also have Coates and Morgans shirts from the mid 60s which are umbro made as well

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:52 am

We should have a sweepstake on when the kit will be shown for the first time. I’m going with 5th August.

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:29 am

I knew that Adidas was founded by Adi Dassler. I did not know, until reading the wiki link, that Umbro was founded by Harold Humphries and bro, Wallace.
Was Nike founded by Nigel Kennedy?

groove · Post by **groove** » Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:35 am

JTClaret wrote:Is this the first year we've had a black kit and not been relegated?

As far as I know. Although I believe we wore black shorts away in the 1960 title season. But recent years any black on the away kit has been very unlucky and my heart sank last summer when I saw this seasons offering.

Foshiznik · Post by **Foshiznik** » Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:24 pm

Hopefully Umbro pull their fingers out next season as this season's designs were awful.

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:27 pm

Puma was founded by Adi Dassler's brother

deanothedino · Post by **deanothedino** » Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:45 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:Puma was founded by Adi Dassler's brother

And both Adolf and Rudolph Dassler were Nazis.

Belial · Post by **Belial** » Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:34 pm

Foshiznik wrote:Hopefully Umbro pull their fingers out next season as this season's designs were awful.

The black away shirt was one of the nicest we've ever had IMO

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:35 pm

Has it been confirmed as umbro? When and by who?

Must've missed it!

Puma have been the best for a while and I'll be sorry to see them go.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:39 pm

Belial wrote:The black away shirt was one of the nicest we've ever had IMO

IMO it's bloody awful.

Longside4evr · Post by **Longside4evr** » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:38 pm

love the black one this season wore it loud and proud in Athens and protected it on the Metro when some bozo tried to nick it

Foshiznik · Post by **Foshiznik** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:22 pm

Belial wrote:The black away shirt was one of the nicest we've ever had IMO

I was talking about Umbro's designs this season. Personally I loved our Black away kit. Look at everton's away grey and pink kit for everything that concerns me about Umbro.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:42 pm

THEWELLERNUT70 wrote:We had umbro kits for years, going way back. I seem to remember as a kid trying Atwells shirt on from the 47 cup final and being surprised it was umbro made. And the wife's grandad Reg Kirkhams shirt from the early 50s was umbro made. I also have Coates and Morgans shirts from the mid 60s which are umbro made as well

my Chew ‘spare’ shirt from the Charlton 47 game is definitely made by Umbro, though with no branding except the label. My first Burnley V was also Umbro... so great to see the club working with them again.

tarkys_ears · Post by **tarkys_ears** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:24 pm

It'll look boss until the premier online casino of Formosa or Djibouti gets their logo on it!

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:56 am

tarkys_ears wrote:It'll look boss until the premier online casino of Formosa or Djibouti gets their logo on it!

The longer we can stay in the PL the revenue from shirt advertising should increase markedly.

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:39 am

Tricky Trevor wrote:Although kits weren’t branded back then I thought we wore umbro shirts and bukta boots for the 1962 FA Cup final. I can’t find any proof but the wiki link does say they had a deal with the FA and did the cup final balls.
Some older supporter might be able to confirm or deny.

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The whole team wore Adidas boots for the 1962 final

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:45 am

Tricky Trevor wrote:The longer we can stay in the PL the revenue from shirt advertising should increase markedly.

I would not be to convinced by that Trvor - last years figures (we have increased ours with the current monstrosity - I for one would rather we were free of Gambling, Alcohol and Vaping in our advertising which are responsible for so much ill in the town)

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Foulthrow · Post by **Foulthrow** » Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:45 am

burnmark wrote:Green?

And black.

Halves.

Foulthrow · Post by **Foulthrow** » Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:49 am

Foshiznik wrote:I was talking about Umbro's designs this season. Personally I loved our Black away kit. Look at everton's away grey and pink kit for everything that concerns me about Umbro.

I’m a big fan of their home kit though. You can mess around with our away kit as far as I’m concerned, just get the home kit right.

Foulthrow · Post by **Foulthrow** » Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:51 am

Tricky Trevor wrote:I knew that Adidas was founded by Adi Dassler. I did not know, until reading the wiki link, that Umbro was founded by Harold Humphries and bro, Wallace.
Was Nike founded by Nigel Kennedy?

Isn’t Umbro a shortened conjunction of Humphrey brothers?

But, aren’t they just a subsidiary of Nike anyway now?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:56 am

Tricky Trevor wrote:I knew that Adidas was founded by Adi Dassler. I did not know, until reading the wiki link, that Umbro was founded by Harold Humphries and bro, Wallace.
Was Nike founded by Nigel Kennedy?

Adi Dassler worked with his brother Rudolph Dassler but the pair fell out and Rudolph set up his own rival business which is Puma. The two factories were all but next to each other initially although I'm not sure where they are now.

As for our kit, there was a thread a couple of weeks ago and I believe it is definitely Umbro next season.

deanothedino · Post by **deanothedino** » Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:33 pm

Foulthrow wrote:Isn’t Umbro a shortened conjunction of Humphrey brothers?

But, aren’t they just a subsidiary of Nike anyway now?

Nike spun them back off. Now owned by the same management company as Lee Cooper.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:56 pm

deanothedino wrote:Nike spun them back off. Now owned by the same management company as Lee Cooper.

And other iconic brands such as Ocean Pacific, Pony and Bongo. (Although they don't make anything themselves, everything is licensed out.)

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:28 am

I'd expect this or similar, it's better than Puma and not by a longshot.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:43 am

How long was the deal with Laba?

Do we still have them next year?

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:14 pm

How are the supplier deals worked out from a financial perspective?

There's the cost of manufacturing but then the company also get high profile exposure with their logo on the kits.

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:27 pm

Umbro have got some really nice shirts this season.

The main problem with us as I see it is we’ve got to work with Claret, Blue and White. The kits a like (Everton, Blackburn, Bournemouth) have just 2 main colours to work with.

This seasons Everton home is really nice but seen (above post) in our colours it looks shockingly bad.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:31 pm

Walt wrote:How are the supplier deals worked out from a financial perspective?

There's the cost of manufacturing but then the company also get high profile exposure with their logo on the kits.

Generally, Umbro (or G L Dameck in reality), Nike or whoever will make an up-front payment to the club for the right to produce the shirts.

In addition the club will get a whole variety of free kit and may get an extra royalty if the number of shirts, etc sold exceeds a certain figure (although this figure tends to be set very high, I don't think I've ever seen it triggered).

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:08 pm

Dyched wrote:Umbro have got some really nice shirts this season.

The main problem with us as I see it is we’ve got to work with Claret, Blue and White. The kits a like (Everton, Blackburn, Bournemouth) have just 2 main colours to work with.

This seasons Everton home is really nice but seen (above post) in our colours it looks shockingly bad.

Umbro have done WHU kit with the same 3 colours as us

Unfortunately the only blue was as a “cuff” on the sleeves

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:55 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:Umbro have done WHU kit with the same 3 colours as us

Unfortunately the only blue was as a “cuff” on the sleeves

I thought this one was pretty smart.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:58 pm

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:I thought this one was pretty smart.

Sorry I meant from this seasons

Never been a fan of round neck, but overall it’s not a bad shirt

Working_Class_Zero · Post by **Working_Class_Zero** » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:59 pm

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Alanstevensonsgloves · Post by **Alanstevensonsgloves** » Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:26 pm

Working_Class_Zero wrote:
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Yes, yes and thrice yes.

Normally I don't buy kits but.....

Alanstevensonsgloves · Post by **Alanstevensonsgloves** » Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:27 pm

I'd also change the background colour of our badge. That light blue is luminous

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:39 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:Umbro have done WHU kit with the same 3 colours as us

Unfortunately the only blue was as a “cuff” on the sleeves

West Hams is awful this season imo

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Fri Apr 19, 2019 3:07 pm

aggi wrote:Generally, Umbro (or G L Dameck in reality), Nike or whoever will make an up-front payment to the club for the right to produce the shirts.

In addition the club will get a whole variety of free kit and may get an extra royalty if the number of shirts, etc sold exceeds a certain figure (although this figure tends to be set very high, I don't think I've ever seen it triggered).

Appreciate that. It's something I've wondered about for a while but never bothered to look into it.

4:20 · Post by **4:20** » Fri Apr 19, 2019 3:17 pm

Benedictine on the front of our shirts would be brilliant. Great font, looks fantastic, the link to our club and town. It would be THE perfect sponsor for our football club, although I'm not sure they could match the deal offered by a far east betting company.