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James Forrest

Post by FeedTheArf » Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:12 pm

Really hope this guy has flashed up on Moneyball Mike’s system. Say what you want about the Scottish League but 17 goals and 20 assists for a winger in any league is a brilliant return.

Been at Celtic all of his career and has 3 years left on his contract there which would make it tough but you would hope we’d be more than competitive on wages and at 27 you’d think he’d want to test himself against the best on a weekly basis.
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Re: James Forrest

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:18 pm

he's already 27, not sure that fits the moneyball system

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Re: James Forrest

Post by tiger76 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:04 pm

PL clubs have been watching him for a while,Celtic value him at 25 million,personally i think their being optimistic,but that's their current valuation and as he has a long contract they hold all the cards regarding any potential sale,it wouldn't surprise me if he joined up with Brenda again at Leicester.

The fact he's approaching his mid to late 20's makes me wary,if he was 4-5 younger i'd have him in a heartbeat,but it's a lot of money to risk on a lad who's unproven at PL level.

Celtic usually do sell one of their stars for big money every summer,if Forrest doesn't head south,Kieran Tierney will,Man Utd heavily linked in the press today.

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Re: James Forrest

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:09 pm

I'd be more interested in Patrick Roberts who was on loan at Celtic from Man CIty - I think he's on loan at Girona in La Liga this season

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Re: James Forrest

Post by mkmel » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:24 pm

I was talking to a Celtic supporter the other day and he was singing the praises of Patrick Roberts

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Re: James Forrest

Post by Right_winger » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:28 pm

Celtic are just miles ahead of any other team
In that league. Their players are bang average

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Re: James Forrest

Post by gandhisflipflop » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:29 pm

Patrick Roberts is class and would really add another dimension to our attack. Another player I keep banging on about is Kristoffer Ajer. This guy is a man mountain and has the versitility of being able to play in either midfield or at the back. He would definitely add extra steel in the middle of the park that we have been lacking.

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Re: James Forrest

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:32 pm

Right_winger wrote:Celtic are just miles ahead of any other team
In that league. Their players are bang average
They have by far the best manager up there, which definitely helps. No real competition. If Rangers were to get a better manager, they might start to compete.

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Re: James Forrest

Post by claretspice » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:36 pm

The trouble we will have in looking at any player from Celtic is that Celtic dominate every game they play barring a couple of European ties each season - they have the vast majority of possession and territory. In the vast majority of games, we certainly don't dominate (and in quite a number we are dominated) and we have a minority share of possession and territory. That requires not only a very different mentality, but also a different skill set. Not to say it can't be developed, but it definitely doesn't make players who have developed at Celtic a quick fix.

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Re: James Forrest

Post by willsclarets » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:31 pm

People go on about the level up there but it's horses for courses. Southampton have done very well out of wanyama and van dijk! Tierney has the potential to be a world class left back too imo. While we're seemingly desperate to pluck a bargain from leagues across Europe we know less about it would be daft to ignore players in Scotland. That said, not interested in Forrest!
Would take Roberts in a heartbeat though.

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Re: James Forrest

Post by Jakubs Tash » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:35 pm

claretspice wrote:The trouble we will have in looking at any player from Celtic is that Celtic dominate every game they play barring a couple of European ties each season - they have the vast majority of possession and territory. In the vast majority of games, we certainly don't dominate (and in quite a number we are dominated) and we have a minority share of possession and territory. That requires not only a very different mentality, but also a different skill set. Not to say it can't be developed, but it definitely doesn't make players who have developed at Celtic a quick fix.
And what about the games where we need to be on front foot, where we do dominate possession but struggle to break the opposition down because haven't got that flair or individual ability needed? For example, Leicester at home this season.

Sometimes you need someone who can just make things happen. They aren't usually the type to put in a robust defensive shift....but it is the type of different player we don't currently have.

For the record, I'm not overly bothered about this lad. But we need some flair and creativity from somewhere.

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Re: James Forrest

Post by SGr » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:54 pm

Can’t see this lad leaving Celtic. They’ll be demanding a high fee because of his importance to them, but the league is suspect and at that age represents very little sell-on potential.

Risk management, can’t see him ever being worth it to a Premier League club.

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Re: James Forrest

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:56 pm

Right_winger wrote:Celtic are just miles ahead of any other team
In that league. Their players are bang average
yeah we were so convincing against Aberdeen

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Re: James Forrest

Post by Oshkoshclaret » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:20 pm

If Celtic won't let him go we should look at this lad Arfield at Rangers he's banging them in.

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Re: James Forrest

Post by Woodleyclaret » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:25 pm

Scott had a great season in the lower league in Scotland.
As he showed with us not Premier League level.

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Re: James Forrest

Post by claretspice » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:58 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:And what about the games where we need to be on front foot, where we do dominate possession but struggle to break the opposition down because haven't got that flair or individual ability needed? For example, Leicester at home this season.

Sometimes you need someone who can just make things happen. They aren't usually the type to put in a robust defensive shift....but it is the type of different player we don't currently have.

For the record, I'm not overly bothered about this lad. But we need some flair and creativity from somewhere.
Very fair point, but the games you describe represent at best a maximum of 1/4 of the games we play in a league season - half of home games. And we can't afford to divert a substantial proportion of our budget to players who address a problem that occurs in 1/4 of the season to the exclusion of seeing ourselves right for the other 3/4. That's why players who have proven they can do both sides of the job - attack and defend - are always going to be especially attractive to us (even if they're not quite as flashy in attack) and why players who have grown up only dealing with one side of the game are a particularly large risk to us (because unless we buy them cheap and raw, we haven't got the time for them to learn the other half).

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Re: James Forrest

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:21 pm

So that’s players from teams who get relegated and players from good sides who are off the list.

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Re: James Forrest

Post by Right_winger » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:41 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:yeah we were so convincing against Aberdeen
Typical Dyche cup performance similar to that we put in against the likes of Accy and Lincoln.. still weren’t in any trouble though

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