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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby Bosscat » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:39 pm

Cardiff next 4 matches

Liverpool Home
Fulham Away
Palace Home
Manure Away

They have to win 3 of these, can anyone seriously think that will happen

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby Spijed » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:40 pm

BobSykes wrote:Balance of probabilities.

The bookies will expect us to lose. The pundits will expect us to lose.

Over 4 games it seems possible we'll pick a point or two up, but individually any objective assessment says defeat in each one is the most likely outcome.

So it would have been good to see the gap stay at 11 tonight. All I was saying. It's going to be 8, so I guess we just have to live with that and hope for the best... UTC.


Wouldn't even surprise me if you really think Cardiff can claw back the -15 goal difference as well.

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby Foulthrow » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:40 pm

Can’t believe people think we’re still potentially in trouble. Us and Cardiff have 8 games remaining between us. Cardiff need 7 of those games to go in their favour for them to catch us.

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby Steve1956 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:40 pm

Bosscat wrote:Cardiff next 4 matches

Liverpool Home
Fulham Away
Palace Home
Manure Away

They have to win 3 of these, can anyone seriously think that will happen

Cardiff won't win another game this season,today was their swan song bye Cardiff.

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby Spijed » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:40 pm

Bosscat wrote:Cardiff next 4 matches

Liverpool Home
Fulham Away
Palace Home
Manure Away

They have to win 3 of these, can anyone seriously think that will happen


Fulham looked very good against Everton at home.

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby exilecanada » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:42 pm

Well, this really puts ‘the cat among the pigeons’. In reality, we need to pick up at least one more point, possibly two, in our final 4 games!

Cue ‘Jaws theme’…………


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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby Bin Ont Turf » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:42 pm

Bosscat wrote:Cardiff next 4 matches

Liverpool Home
Fulham Away
Palace Home
Manure Away

They have to win 3 of these, can anyone seriously think that will happen



Surely they only have to win one if Brighton lose all their's.

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby Vegas Claret » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:42 pm

no gimmies in this division

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby elwaclaret » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:43 pm

AshevilleNCClaret wrote:?????? I don't get the reference. I've followed Burnley for about 4 years, I don't know all of the history of managers/Coaches/teams.

The list of relegatable teams each year seems to be shrinking (I don't see Wolves faltering next season).
BHA is a better squad than Cardiff. I would rather play Cardiff next year in the PL than BHA.


Warnock nearly took over at Burnley. He’dfallen Out with Stan Our manager when he criticised Stan’s Management when following him at Bury. Then Warnocks assistant got caught trying to earwig stan’s Team talk at Sheffield Utd. And Cardiff fans used to be among the nastier in the hooligan days. For others because they’re Welsh.

Personally I wanted Cardiff to keep Brighton nervous. I no longer see us as realistically involved. Yes it would be better being statistically safe and hence I can watch it unfold not really bothered either way... which I’d have taken a week or two ago.

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby tiger76 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:44 pm

The worry for Brighton is their spirit has gone,on the last 2 showings they are more likely to drop than Cardiff,who are still playing as a team.

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby Spijed » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:44 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:no gimmies in this division


Dunno. Man City & Liverpool against most sides this season...

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby bartons baggage » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:47 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Solley March would be a good fit in our side tidy footballer


Weren't we interested a while back?

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby Vegas Claret » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:49 pm

Spijed wrote:Dunno. Man City & Liverpool against most sides this season...


tru dat :lol:

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby Bosscat » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:49 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Surely they only have to win one if Brighton lose all their's.

Exactly but have put all Brightons matches up as well....

Even harder than Cardiffs.

But the Private Frasers on here (We're Doomed, Doomed I tell ye) seem to think we are the favourites to go down ......

Jeez guys grow some gonads we are not going down ...

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby bartons baggage » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:50 pm

Bosscat wrote:Cardiff next 4 matches

Liverpool Home
Fulham Away
Palace Home
Manure Away

They have to win 3 of these, can anyone seriously think that will happen


Brighton are a broken team i can't see them getting another point.
FWIW i hope Cardiff stop up at their expense.

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby Vegas Claret » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:52 pm

I'm usually pessimistic but even I will say we are 10000000000% safe

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby Rick_Muller » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:55 pm

This is the best result for us. It means that we definitely have something to play for against Chelsea. Like I said before, I think we’ll get a result against them

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby Billyblah » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:58 pm

boatshed bill wrote:Probably safe, but we will be looking over our shoulders.
I find it really difficult to believe that any Burnley supporter would want Cardiff to survive TBH.


Well it's a choice of Warnocks Cardiff, or Moneybags Brighton. It'll be a close call. Brighton seem devoid of confidence but both teams have such tough run-ins I can't see either wining another point.

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby Steve1956 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:58 pm

Did our season end on Saturday,I think there is 12 more points to play for for us yet,grow some balls and have faith in the team,no way are we not picking up another point this season,can see at least 4 points for us in those four games.

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby bfcjg » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:00 pm

Well get points v Everton City and Arsenal.

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby mkmel » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:01 pm

What are the odds on the relegation candidates?

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby ksrclaret » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:02 pm

Fantastic result, we are completely safe, and Brighton are completely in the sh1te.

Lovely
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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby Steve1956 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:04 pm

ksrclaret wrote:Fantastic result, we are completely safe, and Brighton are completely in the sh1te.

Lovely

Funny a f**k ...they haven't a clue.

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby houseboy » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:05 pm

Foulthrow wrote:Can’t believe people think we’re still potentially in trouble. Us and Cardiff have 8 games remaining between us. Cardiff need 7 of those games to go in their favour for them to catch us.

It’s not hard to see 4 of them going their way - our 4. Have you seen our fixtures? Can not believe people actually wanted a Cardiff win just because of some stupid hatred of Brighton. Just hope it doesn’t come back to bite us in the ass. What the hell is wrong with Brighton anyway? I hope they stay up just to p!ss off the anti Brighton brigade. If Brighton had won we would have been nailed on safe, now we have TWO teams still in striking distance. F**ckin madness.

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby Bosscat » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:05 pm

Brighton next 5 games

Wolves away
Tottenham Away
Newcastle Home
Arsenil Away
Citeh Home

Can anyone honestly see them picking up any more points (assuming they lose tonight) only Barcodes...

They are 6 points behind us now.....

Cardiff next 4 matches

Liverpool Home
Fulham Away
Palace Home
Manure Away

They have to win 3 of these, can anyone seriously think that will happen


Private Frasers stop Doom mongering :lol:

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby Foulthrow » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:10 pm

houseboy wrote:It’s not hard to see 4 of them going their way - our 4. Have you seen our fixtures? Can not believe people actually wanted a Cardiff win just because of some stupid hatred of Brighton. Just hope it doesn’t come back to bite us in the ass. What the hell is wrong with Brighton anyway? I hope they stay up just to p!ss off the anti Brighton brigade. If Brighton had won we would have been nailed on safe, now we have TWO teams still in striking distance. F**ckin madness.


I have seen our fixtures and I’ve also seen the thread where we are, what, 5th in the form table since Christmas? I’d be amazed if we lost our next four.
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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby Spijed » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:12 pm

houseboy wrote:It’s not hard to see 4 of them going their way - our 4. Have you seen our fixtures? Can not believe people actually wanted a Cardiff win just because of some stupid hatred of Brighton. Just hope it doesn’t come back to bite us in the ass. What the hell is wrong with Brighton anyway? I hope they stay up just to p!ss off the anti Brighton brigade. If Brighton had won we would have been nailed on safe, now we have TWO teams still in striking distance. F**ckin madness.


And even forgetting about Cardiff, where are Brighton going to get their points from?

And as for Cardiff we've a far bigger chance of getting a result against Man City than they have against Liverpool.

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby Steve1956 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:12 pm

Bosscat wrote:Brighton next 5 games

Wolves away
Tottenham Away
Newcastle Home
Arsenil Away
Citeh Home

Can anyone honestly see them picking up any more points (assuming they lose tonight) only Barcodes...

They are 6 points behind us now.....

Cardiff next 4 matches

Liverpool Home
Fulham Away
Palace Home
Manure Away

They have to win 3 of these, can anyone seriously think that will happen


Private Frasers stop Doom mongering :lol:

What those two do does not matter a jot,we will pick up points from our last four games without doubt.
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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby cockneyclaret » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:14 pm

houseboy wrote:It’s not hard to see 4 of them going their way - our 4. Have you seen our fixtures? Can not believe people actually wanted a Cardiff win just because of some stupid hatred of Brighton. Just hope it doesn’t come back to bite us in the ass. What the hell is wrong with Brighton anyway? I hope they stay up just to p!ss off the anti Brighton brigade. If Brighton had won we would have been nailed on safe, now we have TWO teams still in striking distance. F**ckin madness.


Brighton fans are the most two faced, plastic specimens you'll come across.
Years ago they come begging to keep there club afloat and since they moved to the amex, look down at teams like us.. I work in Brighton and the stuff I've over heard about us is just comical. You do realise they still go on about the so called Barton stamp and hope nothing but relegation comes our way.
Apart from that there a lovely club with amazing fans !!

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby Bin Ont Turf » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:17 pm

Even they have their 'I told you so' bumpers.

Eyes down for a full house :D ................


https://www.northstandchat.com/showthre ... ***/page49

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby Ilovebeer » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:17 pm

We are in 0% trouble of going down! Brighton are the ones in serious trouble, I can see them picking up 1 point if there lucky whereas I see Cardiff picking 4 points up

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby exilecanada » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:20 pm

houseboy wrote:It’s not hard to see 4 of them going their way - our 4. Have you seen our fixtures? Can not believe people actually wanted a Cardiff win just because of some stupid hatred of Brighton. Just hope it doesn’t come back to bite us in the ass. What the hell is wrong with Brighton anyway? I hope they stay up just to p!ss off the anti Brighton brigade. If Brighton had won we would have been nailed on safe, now we have TWO teams still in striking distance. F**ckin madness.



I'll agree with that 100%. I was rooting for Brighton all the way today. I don't give a damn who goes down, as long as it's not Burnley!

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby ClaretMoffitt » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:21 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:I don't think my pants will ever dry if Brighton go down.


same
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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby houseboy » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:33 pm

Foulthrow wrote:I have seen our fixtures and I’ve also seen the thread where we are, what, 5th in the form table since Christmas? I’d be amazed if we lost our next four.

Our form has been good yes but not against City, Arsenal or Chelsea. And last time out Everton buried us alive-at home. Cardiff have 12 points to play for with only one hard game. We have 4 of the toughest games you could ask for. I still think we will be okay but asking for a Cardiff win tonight was just plain daft.
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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby bfcmik » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:35 pm

"4-4-1-1 was looking OK but Gross very rusty & what the hell was Murray doing on the wings most of the time. 4-4-2 didn't improve things despite the effort and might be me but has Andone got the right boots as he spent a lot of the time slipping over.

Passing was woeful , dont even mention Stephens supposedly our best passer of the ball could not have passed to a pensioner with a walking frame going at 0.00000001 mph in an empty playing area.

Just not good enough & I have to lay the blame on the players firstly & the coaching staff secondly who obviously dont train the players with weights as they fall over in a breeze let alone under a modest challenge. Fitness seems an issue combined with lack of being able to string two passes together I wonder what exactly the training does involve."

From North Stand chat. What a fantastic critique of his club!

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby houseboy » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:37 pm

Spijed wrote:And even forgetting about Cardiff, where are Brighton going to get their points from?

And as for Cardiff we've a far bigger chance of getting a result against Man City than they have against Liverpool.

You actually believe that? We have played City twice so far this season, remind me how that went then tell me again you think we have more chance against them. They have scored 10 (that’s ten) goals against us this season.

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby Claretmatt4 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:37 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Even they have their 'I told you so' bumpers.

Eyes down for a full house :D ................


https://www.northstandchat.com/showthre ... ***/page49


83% want Houghton out. Unbelievable. What on earth would a new manager do now in four games?

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby Claretmatt4 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:38 pm

houseboy wrote:You actually believe that? We have played City twice so far this season, remind me how that went then tell me again you think we have more chance against them. They have scored 10 (that’s ten) goals against us this season.


Okay so that's one game we lose. What about the other three?

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby bfcmik » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:38 pm

houseboy wrote:Our form has been good yes but not against City, Arsenal or Chelsea. And last time out Everton buried us alive-at home. Cardiff have 12 points to play for with only one hard game. We have 4 of the toughest games you could ask for. I still think we will be okay but asking for a Cardiff win tonight was just plain daft.

You don't count ManUre away as a hard game?

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby Spijed » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:39 pm

houseboy wrote:Our form has been good yes but not against City, Arsenal or Chelsea. And last time out Everton buried us alive-at home. Cardiff have 12 points to play for with only one hard game. We have 4 of the toughest games you could ask for. I still think we will be okay but asking for a Cardiff win tonight was just plain daft.


You are being completely stupid making reference to the Everton game in light of both teams, and the form of each since then. Do you really believe they could score five against us now?

As for Cardiff, if you assume they are going to lose against Liverpool are you really suggesting that playing Man U away isn't a difficult game for them and one they have a good chance of winning?

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby houseboy » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:39 pm

cockneyclaret wrote:Brighton fans are the most two faced, plastic specimens you'll come across.
Years ago they come begging to keep there club afloat and since they moved to the amex, look down at teams like us.. I work in Brighton and the stuff I've over heard about us is just comical. You do realise they still go on about the so called Barton stamp and hope nothing but relegation comes our way.
Apart from that there a lovely club with amazing fans !!

I really don’t care mate, I’d rather they win the PL than Cardiff win tonight. I think this We Hate Brighton thing is all a bit childish.

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby Tricky Trevor » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:41 pm

As one who is not concerned for our safety I’d like to see BHA go. They have more chance of improving than Cardiff. I wonder how much losing Ryan to some tinpot competition has hurt them. They’ve done nothing since.

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby tiger76 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:43 pm

bfcmik wrote:You don't count ManUre away as a hard game?


Looking increasingly likely Man U will need the points for a top 4 finish also.

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby houseboy » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:45 pm

Spijed wrote:You are being completely stupid making reference to the Everton game in light of both teams, and the form of each since then. Do you really believe they could score five against us now?

As for Cardiff, if you assume they are going to lose against Liverpool are you really suggesting that playing Man U away isn't a difficult game for them and one they have a good chance of winning?

The only ‘stupid’ thing on here bud is wanting a Cardiff win out of some childish hatred of Brighton, a club with which we have nothing in common. I want any semblance of relegation wiped out and a Brighton win tonight would pretty much have done that.

By the way calling someone stupid is the refuge of someone with no argument. Children do that a lot.

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby Spijed » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:47 pm

houseboy wrote:The only ‘stupid’ thing on here bud is wanting a Cardiff win out of some childish hatred of Brighton, a club with which we have nothing in common. I want any semblance of relegation wiped out and a Brighton win tonight would pretty much have done that.

By the way calling someone stupid is the refuge of someone with no argument. Children do that a lot.


I wanted Cardiff to win as it'll almost certainly mean we finish an extra place higher in the league. Haven't given up on finishing no lower than where we are at the moment.

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby Claretmatt4 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:51 pm

You can get 325/1 on us to go down.

Notice you're the only one panicking.

Were safe.

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby houseboy » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:51 pm

bfcmik wrote:You don't count ManUre away as a hard game?

Of course it is and as I have said I do think we’ll Be okay but a Brighton win would have nailed it. When Cardiff play at United if they are still in with a shout they will play out of their skins against a United side who may not have a lot to play for, then anything is possible. If by some chance they do beat Liverpool then I suspect a few on here will be regretting their ‘come on Cardiff’ stance tonight.

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby cockneyclaret » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:58 pm

houseboy wrote:I really don’t care mate, I’d rather they win the PL than Cardiff win tonight. I think this We Hate Brighton thing is all a bit childish.


Says you.. but each for there own..

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Re: Brighton vs Cardiff

Postby houseboy » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:58 pm

Spijed wrote:I wanted Cardiff to win as it'll almost certainly mean we finish an extra place higher in the league. Haven't given up on finishing no lower than where we are at the moment.

I don’t know if you are a gambling man (i’m not) but would you put money on us getting a point in the last 4 games? It’s possible, granted, but would you risk your hard earned on it? Everton looks the best bet but when Everton away looks your best chance of points things don’t look good. If we lose all 4 (and it’s possible) then we are relying on other teams results. Do you want that?


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