Ronaldo: Big game player

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Ronaldo: Big game player

Postby Spiral » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:07 pm

but Ajax isn't a big game so Dusan Tadic is playing in a CL semi final and Ronnie is not.

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Re: Ronaldo: Big game player

Postby Vegas Claret » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:09 pm

Can't do it on his own though, Ajax as a team were phenomenal whilst Juve by their standards didn't turn up

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Re: Ronaldo: Big game player

Postby Steve1956 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:14 pm

Be good to see Ajax being a force again like they were in the 70s used to always look out for their results.

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Re: Ronaldo: Big game player

Postby Spiral » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:16 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Can't do it on his own though, Ajax as a team were phenomenal whilst Juve by their standards didn't turn up


This is true, and he owes last years CL medal to a combination of Bale and Karius, not that anyone wouldn't be forgiven for thinking otherwise given the aura he cultivates for himself.

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Re: Ronaldo: Big game player

Postby Burnley1989 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:19 pm

Spiral wrote:This is true, and he owes last years CL medal to a combination of Bale and Karius, not that anyone wouldn't be forgiven for thinking otherwise given the aura he cultivates for himself.


I’m not really sure where you are going with this one but calling out one of the greatest, most successful players ever after a loss is a bit bizarre

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Re: Ronaldo: Big game player

Postby theroyaldyche » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:23 pm

Ajax could win it

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Re: Ronaldo: Big game player

Postby Spiral » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:28 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:I’m not really sure where you are going with this one but calling out one of the greatest, most successful players ever after a loss is a bit bizarre


When the CR7 corporation wins a game of football there's no end in sight to the queue of folk lining up to heap praise upon Ronnie, often without due credit being given to his team-mates. If he's to be raised to such a standard, then he's held to such a standard when he blows it. He's one of the best players of all time. But not the best.

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Re: Ronaldo: Big game player

Postby Steve-Harpers-perm » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:33 pm

Ziyech was superb for Ajax. Shame he didn’t opt for us
3 years ago!

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Re: Ronaldo: Big game player

Postby Lancasterclaret » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:34 pm

Felt for him tonight, but at the same time saw the disadvantage of building your team around him.

When he's slightly not on it, and he wasn't tonight, the team can't cope.

And as he gets older, he'll struggle more and more.

Mind you, he was playing against De Ligt who is a hell of a talent

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Re: Ronaldo: Big game player

Postby tiger76 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:38 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:Ajax could win it


Be great to see,but it's hard to see past Barca.

The thing about Ajax is they are playing without fear,even in the last half-hour tonight they continually pressed forwards.

Whichever of Spurs/Man City progress they have a tough task to overcome this vibrant youthful Ajax side.

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Re: Ronaldo: Big game player

Postby Chester Perry » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:38 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Be good to see Ajax being a force again like they were in the 70s used to always look out for their results.


most of the key talents in that team will be sold this summer - a few deals already agreed it seems

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Re: Ronaldo: Big game player

Postby nyclaret » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:50 pm

Chester Perry wrote:most of the key talents in that team will be sold this summer - a few deals already agreed it seems

Similar to Monaco a couple of seasons ago.

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Re: Ronaldo: Big game player

Postby Long Time Lurker » Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:28 pm

Chester Perry wrote:most of the key talents in that team will be sold this summer - a few deals already agreed it seems


Thats the most impressive thing about Ajax. They consistently play and compete at a high standard with a suprisingly young squad, but their on the pitch success is possibly over shadowed by their hugely impressive player development and transfer dealings.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/ajax-amst ... verein/610

The amount of money they've earned from signing, developing and selling players in the last few years is eye watering.

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Re: Ronaldo: Big game player

Postby CoolClaret » Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:31 pm

Weird thread considering the bloke just scored a hatrick in the previous round against one of the best defenses in world football...... That had a 2-0 lead

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Re: Ronaldo: Big game player

Postby AlargeClaret » Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:34 pm

and not forgetting he scored home and away in the quarter..but hey no more than a washed up bum who got lucky for some on here

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Re: Ronaldo: Big game player

Postby Spiral » Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:44 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:and not forgetting he scored home and away in the quarter..but hey no more than a washed up bum who got lucky for some on here


I'm not so sure about that. I think he's one of the best players of all time, and it's weird you'd misrepresent what I've posted, but his prestige as a player who "turns up when it matters" is overstated, slightly exaggerated, when compared to others down the years in the 'best of his generation' conversations.

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Re: Ronaldo: Big game player

Postby deanothedino » Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:05 am

Spiral wrote:I'm not so sure about that. I think he's one of the best players of all time, and it's weird you'd misrepresent what I've posted, but his prestige as a player who "turns up when it matters" is overstated, slightly exaggerated, when compared to others down the years in the 'best of his generation' conversations.

I think he has turned up when it matters more than enough to have credit in the bank to have an off day.

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Re: Ronaldo: Big game player

Postby Steve1956 » Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:14 am

Chester Perry wrote:most of the key talents in that team will be sold this summer - a few deals already agreed it seems

That's the problem isn't it,big clubs get bigger and the rest stand still :x

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Re: Ronaldo: Big game player

Postby TVC15 » Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:30 pm

Nearly 600 goals in 800 club games playing for Europe’s top teams not to mention not far off 100 goals for his country.
I have Messi as just edging him for natural talent but Ronaldo has done it on the big stage just as much if not more than Messi.
Statistically I don’t think what Messi and Ronaldo have done will ever be beaten - both have got to be in the top 4 or 5 players to have ever played the game.

As for last night Juve are an ageing team - their league is too easy to win for them so playing a young exuberant Ajax side was probably one of the worst draw they could have got....Ajax playing without any fear and if they do end up playing Barca in final would be interesting to see how they did against their ageing defence, and Busques etc

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Re: Ronaldo: Big game player

Postby Chester Perry » Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:31 pm

Steve1956 wrote:That's the problem isn't it,big clubs get bigger and the rest stand still :x


yep

going back to OP - what about this for a stat

"if only his goals in quarter-finals, semi-finals and finals counted, Cristiano Ronaldo would still be the 13th highest scorer in European Cup history".

at most that is 5 games a season


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