VARce

[cricketfieldclarets]

Lyon v Bordeaux.

Lyon score.
Jovanovic for Bordeaux complains the goal is offside.
He gets a red card for his protests.
Goal referred to VAR.
Ref agrees with Jovanovic and declares goal to be offisde.
Red card still stands.
Player who scored is shown to be ONside. But VAR Overrules the goal.

What a complete shambles this system is. And this for a black and white decision. Not a subjective one.

Its so stupid its laughable.

[Steve1956]

It will ruin the beautiful game

[Bordeauxclaret]

Depends what he said to the ref?

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Ah well, no different to refs etc getting decisions completely wrong, means we still get to moan about it.

[dpinsussex]

Lyon v Bordeaux.

Lyon score.
Jovanovic for Bordeaux complains the goal is offside.
He gets a red card for his protests.
Goal referred to VAR.
Ref agrees with Jovanovic and declares goal to be offisde.
Red card still stands.
Player who scored is shown to be ONside. But VAR Overrules the goal.

What a complete shambles this system is. And this for a black and white decision. Not a subjective one.

Its so stupid its laughable.

Totally disagree.

The decision has been refered upstairs. He can only from your description been sent off for OFFINABUS and therefore deserve the red card irrespective of the VAR decision.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Totally disagree.

The decision has been refered upstairs. He can only from your description been sent off for OFFINABUS and therefore deserve the red card irrespective of the VAR decision.

True.

BUT, the ref (or the bloke upstairs) has disallowed a goal that wasn't offside after reviewing VAR. A goal he initially (and correctly) gave!


And as above. This wasn't even for something subjective. Like a foul. It was for something black and white.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Ah well, no different to refs etc getting decisions completely wrong, means we still get to moan about it.

Refs are human though. Like players.

I can accept refs getting decisions wrong in the game.

What would improve things is if refs spoke postmatch. Explained their decision (right or wrong) and how they came to the decision. Would improve things no end.

Its a game played by humans and should be reffed by humans.
Most can accept wrong decisions and mistakes.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Refs are human though. Like players.

I can accept refs getting decisions wrong in the game.

What would improve things is if refs spoke postmatch. Explained their decision (right or wrong) and how they came to the decision. Would improve things no end.

Its a game played by humans and should be reffed by humans.
Most can accept wrong decisions and mistakes.

It is reffed by humans, who're using tech to review a decision but it's still a human making the decision so what's the complaint about??

We get it, you don't like changes etc etc etc, but it's happening whether you like it or not.
It still allows for wrong decisions, still allows for controversy and still gives you something to talk about with people.

[cricketfieldclarets]

It is reffed by humans, who're using tech to review a decision but it's still a human making the decision so what's the complaint about??

We get it, you don't like changes etc etc etc, but it's happening whether you like it or not.
It still allows for wrong decisions, still allows for controversy and still gives you something to talk about with people.

Because it is adding time, sometimes five minutes to review decisions. It ruins the flow of the game. It ruins the moment. And it doesn't guarantee that the decision will even be right.

Goal line is black and white right or wrong and instantly accurate. VAR isn't and never will be.

Its trying to 'fix' an opinion / observation by replacing it with someone elses opinion or observation. It is causing more problems than it can ever fix.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Because it is adding time, sometimes five minutes to review decisions. It ruins the flow of the game. It ruins the moment. And it doesn't guarantee that the decision will even be right.

Goal line is black and white right or wrong and instantly accurate. VAR isn't and never will be.

Its trying to 'fix' an opinion / observation by replacing it with someone elses opinion or observation. It is causing more problems than it can ever fix.

Ok, so next time we lose a game due to some blatantly toss reffing decision you'll be happy because there's no var and a human made the decision?

VAR will improve over time, just some people aren't interested in improvements to the game.
It was actually quite good in the City/Spurs game the other week in the CL

[cricketfieldclarets]

Ok, so next time we lose a game due to some blatantly toss reffing decision you'll be happy because there's no var and a human made the decision?

VAR will improve over time, just some people aren't interested in improvements to the game.
It was actually quite good in the City/Spurs game the other week in the CL

Of course I wont be happy. But I would be less unhappy than if we had a VAR incident like tonights in said match went against us.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Ah so you're fine with VAR when it goes in Burnley's favour, or is 100% accurate in other games,but other then that, no....

[RammyClaret61]

We can except in the end one single human, or two if you include the linesman got something wrong. Within seconds we move on.
With VAR, we still have incorrect decisions being made, but now by committee, and over several minutes! Frustrating the hell out of fans in the ground. But hey who cares, it’s all entertaining for those sat at home or in the pub.

VAR is a game changer, but not for the better of the actual game.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Ah so you're fine with VAR when it goes in Burnley's favour, or is 100% accurate in other games,but other then that, no....

Why do you make things up? I dont like VAR full stop. Wether it goes for or against us, or anyone else.

[The Enclosure]

It will get to the stage where players will have to wear GPS type monitors so that VAR will know to the millimeter the precise position of each player at any point during a game.That will ensure that the human element is removed from any close call of offside, it beomes an electronic factual decision.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Why do you make things up? I dont like VAR full stop. Wether it goes for or against us, or anyone else.

Not making anything up, you've said yourself you'd be less unhappy if it went in our favour, so I've just equated that to being happy.

You sit there spouting off that the decisions should be made by humans whilst completely ignoring the fact that it is still made by humans....
You need to take some time to learn a bit more about VAR by the looks of it.

[Imploding Turtle]

Lyon v Bordeaux.

Lyon score.
Jovanovic for Bordeaux complains the goal is offside.
He gets a red card for his protests.
Goal referred to VAR.
Ref agrees with Jovanovic and declares goal to be offisde.
Red card still stands.
Player who scored is shown to be ONside. But VAR Overrules the goal.

What a complete shambles this system is. And this for a black and white decision. Not a subjective one.

Its so stupid its laughable.

Because there were never refereeing controversies before VAR, were there?

[mdd2]

Personally I think VAR should only be for a review of whether a player dived or not and the penalty for diving should be a straight red-after about two seasons we might see an end to the prima donnas of the game

[cricketfieldclarets]

Because there were never refereeing controversies before VAR, were there?

Thats my point. Its not fixing it.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Not making anything up, you've said yourself you'd be less unhappy if it went in our favour, so I've just equated that to being happy.

You sit there spouting off that the decisions should be made by humans whilst completely ignoring the fact that it is still made by humans....
You need to take some time to learn a bit more about VAR by the looks of it.

[Imploding Turtle]

Thats my point. Its not fixing it.

It measurably reduces mistakes.

Before VAR comes into use, the initial refereeing accuracy across the games in the study is at 93 per cent.

But that level of accuracy after VAR use is boosted to 98.8 per cent.

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[Spijed]

It measurably reduces mistakes.

Will it though? A hand ball or foul in slow motion can look far worse than it actually is.

[Imploding Turtle]

Will it though? A hand ball or foul in slow motion can look far worse than it actually is.

Yes.

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