Leeds - shocking

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:15 pm

Dirty Leeds
Perfect end to the season if they bottle the play offs - there will be flooding in Leeds from Patrick’s tears

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:28 pm

DCWat wrote:My best mate (Leeds fan) doesn’t half slate Bamford! Appreciates that he has quality on occasion but consistently inconsistent and lacks any instinct where thought comes into it.

He's a bloody mard arse. He slagged off Palace when they had the sense to get rid of him and then did it here because he couldn't deal with the set up. It's all about him with his hideous goal celebrations, even when his team are already beaten. But he's surpassed himself today. What a shame he can't be suspended by the FA for his actions but I hope Leeds take action against him.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:58 pm

Bielsa came out of this well, even if some of his team didn’t.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:03 pm

conyoviejo wrote:I hope not,he's Phookin useless,leave him in their team..

That made my chuckle

also totally correct.

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:38 pm

DCWat wrote:My best mate (Leeds fan) doesn’t half slate Bamford! Appreciates that he has quality on occasion but consistently inconsistent and lacks any instinct where thought comes into it.

but knows how to go down when untouched!

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:45 pm

His wife has never mentioned that but could be true

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:45 pm

Knows how to score goals in the Championship his record is excellent

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:26 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:There's absolutely nothing wrong with this Leeds goal. They shouldn't have given the goal back.

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Edit: skip ahead to 4:00 to see a replay of the challenge the Villa player is claiming to have injured him.

Just seen it for the first time.

You are spot on. Why Leeds should have had to let the goal be walked in is beyond me. While the gesture from Biesla is admirable, if Dyche allowed that to happen I would be furious!

Perfectly good goal. And I don't like Leeds!

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:28 pm

tim_noone wrote:Can't believe you've taken the bait....

Bordeaux called it...

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:08 pm

We all hate Leeds Leeds and Leeds we all ferkin hate Leeds. Love it.

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:33 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Just seen it for the first time.

You are spot on. Why Leeds should have had to let the goal be walked in is beyond me. While the gesture from Biesla is admirable, if Dyche allowed that to happen I would be furious!

Perfectly good goal. And I don't like Leeds!

Wholly disagree it’s a “perfectly good goal” in that it is morally imperfect. Roberts, at the request of Villa players, slowed it down and feigned he was putting it out, so meeting the “sportsman’s request” but didn’t, and then Glich played to the rules.

Roberts is the villain here, along with Glich, and Biesla’s gesture is right on. And it’s exactly within the Dyche moralistic code - don’t cheat, don’t feign injury, don’t hunt the ref....

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:36 pm

NRC wrote:Wholly disagree it’s a “perfectly good goal” in that it is morally imperfect. Roberts, at the request of Villa players, slowed it down and feigned he was putting it out, so meeting the “sportsman’s request” but didn’t, and then Glich played to the rules.

Roberts is the villain here, along with Glich, and Biesla’s gesture is right on. And it’s exactly within the Dyche moralistic code - don’t cheat, don’t feign injury, don’t hunt the ref....

Yep. And I think a few people on here have only seen the clip - they haven't seen the earlier incidents where Villa didn't have to put it out either, but they did.

People can disagree that Leeds didn't have to follow the unwritten rule (although I've heard that it's actually in the rulebook somewhere that you have to play it out) but this isn't what it's about.

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:37 pm

NRC wrote:Wholly disagree it’s a “perfectly good goal” in that it is morally imperfect. Roberts, at the request of Villa players, slowed it down and feigned he was putting it out, so meeting the “sportsman’s request” but didn’t, and then Glich played to the rules.

Roberts is the villain here, along with Glich, and Biesla’s gesture is right on. And it’s exactly within the Dyche moralistic code - don’t cheat, don’t feign injury, don’t hunt the ref....

Roberts' feint is the only problem with it. Villa player rolling around like he's been shot, Villa players demanding it be put out. They should grow up. I don't like Leeds either but players exaggerating injury is a scourge of the game. Play. To. The. Whistle.

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:38 pm

Leeds scored a good goal, should have ignored Villa's tantrums.

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:41 pm

It was effectively a dead game, would Bielsa have done that if they needed the points?

I have my doubts.

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:42 pm

Hope Villa get Leeds in play off final and Bamford gets sent off for simulation before Villa score the winning goal despite having a player down injured.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:46 pm

NottsClaret wrote:Leeds scored a good goal, should have ignored Villa's tantrums.

But as covered, it was offside, so should have been disallowed at the very least anyway.

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:47 pm

Falcon wrote:Hope Villa get Leeds in play off final and Bamford gets sent off for simulation before Villa score the winning goal despite having a player down injured.

I'd prefer leeds to get smashed 15-0 in both legs of the play-off semi finals to be honest rather than seeing them go to Wembley.

edison · Post by **edison** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:51 pm

The ball did not have to be played out. Teams often play on. I didn't like the way, however, the Leeds player moved as if he was going to put the ball out, then played on. It was despicable from Bamford

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:52 pm

Falcon wrote:Hope Villa get Leeds in play off final and Bamford gets sent off for simulation before Villa score the winning goal despite having a player down injured.

Id rather Leeds got beat by Derby in the Semi Finals with Lampard running over to the Leeds end with a pair of binoculars, white board and stick.

He might find it difficult to run mind carry all that. But you get the point.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:24 pm

Wonder how they chose who was going to score?

Goodclaret · Post by **Goodclaret** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:27 pm

The main thing for me was Roberts - he pointed at the "injured" Villa player, his body shape was looking like he was about to kick it out which meant the Villa players stopped. To play the pass to on offside Klitch was disgraceful.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:28 pm

IanMcL wrote:Wonder how they chose who was going to score?

Ladbrokes

bob-the-scutter · Post by **bob-the-scutter** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:59 pm

Dyched wrote:Id rather Leeds got beat by Derby in the Semi Finals with Lampard running over to the Leeds end with a pair of binoculars, white board and stick.

He might find it difficult to run mind carry all that. But you get the point.

Would the white-board have to have an easel?

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:58 pm

bob-the-scutter wrote:Would the white-board have to have an easel?

No Bob. It’ll have to be one of the A Board designs. You not think he’ll have enough to carry already?

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:23 am

NRC wrote:Wholly disagree it’s a “perfectly good goal” in that it is morally imperfect. Roberts, at the request of Villa players, slowed it down and feigned he was putting it out, so meeting the “sportsman’s request” but didn’t, and then Glich played to the rules.

Roberts is the villain here, along with Glich, and Biesla’s gesture is right on. And it’s exactly within the Dyche moralistic code - don’t cheat, don’t feign injury, don’t hunt the ref....

Dont cheat and dont feign injury? Perhaps the villa lad couldve learnt that one...

The games rife with it. The only way it will stop is if teams start playing on

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:51 am

FactualFrank wrote:But as covered, it was offside, so should have been disallowed at the very least anyway.

Not sure about that.. unless they cut their grass at some odd angles in Leeds.

Bullabill · Post by **Bullabill** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:05 am

I'm fed up with the number of times I see attackers kick the ball out because a defender is 'injured', and then the ball is thrown in by the defending team to one of theirs who boots it way up field while the defence follows up pushing the attacking team back.
We've all seen 'injured' players in those scenarios suddenly recover.
I also think that Bielsa's call to 'Give them a goal' was against the way the game is supposed to be played. I wonder, too, how he would react if he saw an incident like Bamford's which resulted in a Leeds penalty. Would he tell his players to refuse to take it, or, (if a goal resulted) would he tell them to 'Give them a goal' ? Although, realistically, he would see it through Arsene Wenger's eyes.

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:10 am

Bullabill wrote:I'm fed up with the number of times I see attackers kick the ball out because a defender is 'injured', and then the ball is thrown in by the defending team to one of theirs who boots it way up field while the defence follows up pushing the attacking team back.
We've all seen 'injured' players in those scenarios suddenly recover.
I also think that Bielsa's call to 'Give them a goal' was against the way the game is supposed to be played. I wonder, too, how he would react if he saw an incident like Bamford's which resulted in a Leeds penalty. Would he tell his players to refuse to take it, or, (if a goal resulted) would he tell them to 'Give them a goal' ? Although, realistically, he would see it through Arsene Wenger's eyes.

Villa weren't given a walk in goal just because Leeds carried on and scored. There is nowt wrong with that. Villa asked for one because of that shitter who stopped as if he was about to play the ball out stopped Villa from playing the game. Villa players stopped until the ball reached the other shitter who went on to score.

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:18 am

If Leeds had currently been in mid table with no chance of the play offs im pretty sure their player would have kicked the ball out of play. In the spirit of the game it was wrong for Leeds to go on and score and I their Manager realised that and well done to him. It will be interesting to see if he stays next season if they don't get promoted via the play offs.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:26 am

ClaretTony wrote:He's a bloody mard arse. He slagged off Palace when they had the sense to get rid of him and then did it here because he couldn't deal with the set up. It's all about him with his hideous goal celebrations, even when his team are already beaten. But he's surpassed himself today. What a shame he can't be suspended by the FA for his actions but I hope Leeds take action against him.

Why can't he face retrospective action under the deceiving a match official rule?

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:31 am

He can according to the Sky Sports website

Winstonswhite · Post by **Winstonswhite** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:47 am

Bullabill wrote:I'm fed up with the number of times I see attackers kick the ball out because a defender is 'injured', and then the ball is thrown in by the defending team to one of theirs who boots it way up field while the defence follows up pushing the attacking team back.
We've all seen 'injured' players in those scenarios suddenly recover.
I also think that Bielsa's call to 'Give them a goal' was against the way the game is supposed to be played. I wonder, too, how he would react if he saw an incident like Bamford's which resulted in a Leeds penalty. Would he tell his players to refuse to take it, or, (if a goal resulted) would he tell them to 'Give them a goal' ? Although, realistically, he would see it through Arsene Wenger's eyes.

Quite ironic that you mention Wenger when he’s the only manager I can think of who gave his opponents a full on replay in a similar scenario!

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:04 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Why can't he face retrospective action under the deceiving a match official rule?

Sky had said he couldn't when I posted that but then reversed that.

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:26 pm

Let's hope they throw the book at him!.........Tosser.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:34 pm

beddie wrote:If Leeds had currently been in mid table with no chance of the play offs im pretty sure their player would have kicked the ball out of play. In the spirit of the game it was wrong for Leeds to go on and score and I their Manager realised that and well done to him. It will be interesting to see if he stays next season if they don't get promoted via the play offs.

But they were already secured 3rd, so not sure there's much difference.

edison · Post by **edison** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:38 pm

He has been charged with ‘successful deception of a match official’.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:55 pm

Is the 2 game ban official yet? Because it'll mean he misses the playoff semi-final first leg.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:16 pm

This is the result of the investigation from the FA

Anwar El Ghazi will be available for Aston Villa’s next three matches after a claim of wrongful dismissal was upheld by an Independent Regulatory Commission. The forward was sent off for violent conduct during the EFL Championship fixture against Leeds United on Sunday [28/04/2019].

Patrick Bamford has subsequently been charged with ‘successful deception of a match official’. It is alleged the Leeds United player’s behaviour in the 72nd minute of the fixture, which involved committing a clear act of simulation that led to Anwar El Ghazi being dismissed, amounts to improper conduct. The forward has until 18:00 on Wednesday [01/05/2019] to respond to the charge.

In addition, Leeds United and Aston Villa have been charged with a breach of FA Rule E20. It is alleged they failed to ensure their players conducted themselves in an orderly fashion during the 72nd minute of the fixture. Both clubs have until 18:00 on Friday [03/05/2019] to provide a response.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:38 pm

Been charged for 'Successful Deception'

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Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:41 pm

For feigning an injury or his job title?

Jel · Post by **Jel** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:41 pm

I hope he gets a 4 match ban!

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:47 pm

Jel wrote:I hope he gets a 4 match ban!

2 match reported/expected depending on where you read it. Meaning he'll miss the first leg of the playoffs. I hope he's a significant miss.

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:48 pm

Can go and cry in his JCB now the violin fondling pri(k.

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:49 pm

Leeds can't be up to much when they have to rely on a duck egg like Bamford

Rodleydave · Post by **Rodleydave** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:52 pm

Violin virtuoso AND skilled actor.
Not many of those about.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:11 pm

It’ll be someone else’s fault.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:12 pm

Most deserved. Fine performance.

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:41 pm

He deserves a medal; dragging the name of L**** down wasn't easy.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:47 pm

He deserves everything he gets and more

Is it too much to hope that Leeds take some action against him

For giving Leeds a bad name