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Re: Bamford Charged

Post by duncandisorderly » Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:01 pm

Has the villa red been rescinded yet or is that a different appeal? Could it be outrageously possible that both players are banned? You'd think not, but....?

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Re: Bamford Charged

Post by lakedistrictclaret » Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:05 pm

Villa red card rescinded.

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Re: Bamford Charged

Post by tiger76 » Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:10 pm

Finally common sense prevails and Bamford rightly gets his punishment,i just hope Leeds don't mount an appeal to try to ensure he can be available for the play-offs.

Between this farce and the spy-gate affair how much lower will dirty Leeds stoop.

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Re: Bamford Charged

Post by mdd2 » Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:13 pm

So you simulate a violent attack on you by an opponent who would face a three match ban and you get a two match ban if found guilty
We do have some crazy rules. As another poster has suggested these offences should carry a hefty ban and I would suggest 10 match suspension and a hefty fine. That would in all probability stop this kind of behaviour immediately
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Re: Bamford Charged

Post by Buxtonclaret » Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:23 pm

mdd2 wrote:So you simulate a violent attack on you by an opponent who would face a three match ban and you get a two match ban if found guilty
We do have some crazy rules. As another poster has suggested these offences should carry a hefty ban and I would suggest 10 match suspension and a hefty fine. That would in all probability stop this king of behaviour immediately
Couldn't get my head around only getting a two game ban.
Ridiculous.

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Re: Bamford Charged

Post by Billy Balfour » Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:29 pm

Let's hope it's Patrick Banford.

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Re: Bamford Charged

Post by Right_winger » Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:54 pm

Absolute ******* fairy. Hope the next centre half he comes up against goes right through him and does some
real damage that he can cry about.
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Re: Bamford Charged

Post by Sutton-Claret » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:13 pm

Agree a 3 match ban should be an absolute minimum.

Also, the Villa fans should be allowed to circle his car and laugh at him crying like a baby.

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Re: Bamford Charged

Post by charlyt » Wed May 01, 2019 1:08 am

Disrupting influence soon sent packing.

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Re: Bamford Charged

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed May 01, 2019 2:14 am

Maddison should be done too for getting Niles of Arsenal sent off too
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Re: Bamford Charged

Post by SmudgetheClaret » Wed May 01, 2019 6:47 am

D..E...L...S...E...

that’s Leeds but fallen apart :lol:

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Re: Bamford Charged

Post by TheFamilyCat » Wed May 01, 2019 6:57 am

SmudgetheClaret wrote:D..E...L...S...E...

that’s Leeds but fallen apart :lol:
Never thought I’d say this but stick to politics, Smudge.

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Re: Bamford Charged

Post by Hendrickxz » Wed May 01, 2019 7:30 am

I can't help thining that his cheating might have changed the course of the whole game/promotion race, especially if their manager had refused to give the goal back. Despicable behaviour from the childish soft lad. Glad we ****** him off.

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Re: Leeds - shocking

Post by Im_not_Robbie_Blake » Wed May 01, 2019 8:33 am

At last we have proof that this is Bamford's true father

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiW0IPrv1Ro" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Leeds - shocking

Post by nil_desperandum » Wed May 01, 2019 8:57 am

ClaretTony wrote:And it's not even close. Interestingly, if the assistant had done his job, none of the rest would have happened.

As for Bamford, that little mard arse needs dealing with for that. Absolute disgrace.
Totally agree. Only just had time to catch up with this and watch the footage.
Stuart Attwell is at the centre of it all, but when you analyse it, he's totally been done by his assistant who:
1. Fails to spot a fairly easy offside,
then 2. Does spot an offence on Bamford that again wasn't even close.
Mike Dean was on the touchline but obviously couldn't call the off-side, and must not have had a view of the Bamford incident, but based on the past couple of weeks he must be reflecting on how much trouble an inept assistant can put a referee in [Cardiff penalty award].
In the circumstances I reckon the Leeds centre-back, Frandsen is also lucky not to be charged. He clearly tried to prevent and disputed the "unchallenged" goal that had been agreed, and this is serious unsporting conduct that could have led to further problems both on the pitch and off if Adomah hadn't been too quick for him. He continued his behaviour after the goal too. Attwell could easily have sent him off to level up the sides but that would just have fanned the flames further.
But it's the assistant who could have prevented all this by simply doing his job.

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Re: Leeds - shocking

Post by ClaretTony » Wed May 01, 2019 9:07 am

nil_desperandum wrote:I reckon the Leeds centre-back, Frandsen is also lucky not to be charged. He clearly tried to prevent and disputed the "unchallenged" goal that had been agreed, and this is serious unsporting conduct that could have led to further problems both on the pitch and off if Adomah hadn't been too quick for him. He continued his behaviour after the goal too. Attwell could easily have sent him off to level up the sides but that would just have fanned the flames further.
But it's the assistant who could have prevented all this by simply doing his job.
The Leeds defender, Pontus Jansson I think, has done nothing wrong. He's entitled to defend no matter what has or hasn't been agreed between the two sides. It's not anything the referee could have got involved with.

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Re: Leeds - shocking

Post by NottsClaret » Wed May 01, 2019 9:23 am

nil_desperandum wrote:Totally agree. Only just had time to catch up with this and watch the footage.
Stuart Attwell is at the centre of it all, but when you analyse it, he's totally been done by his assistant who:
1. Fails to spot a fairly easy offside,
He wasn't offside, not that it's really the issue. This whole incident doesn't leave much blame on the officials, apart from being conned by Bamford, but that's been put right now anyway.

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Re: Leeds - shocking

Post by nil_desperandum » Wed May 01, 2019 9:27 am

ClaretTony wrote:The Leeds defender, Pontus Jansson I think, has done nothing wrong. He's entitled to defend no matter what has or hasn't been agreed between the two sides. It's not anything the referee could have got involved with.
Really not sure about that. You can't have a player taking things into his own hands when everyone has agreed that for the good of the game an "unchallenged" goal should be allowed. It's clearly against the spirit of the game, and as such I think could be covered by the unsporting behaviour list of offences, and also dissent. Dissent both in defying the instruction to allow a goal and also verbal and physical after Adomah scored. The whole point of an "unchallenged" goal is surely to calm things down, not to inflame them as he did?
(Anyway he plays for Leeds so he was obviously in the wrong :lol: :lol: )

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Re: Leeds - shocking

Post by nil_desperandum » Wed May 01, 2019 9:29 am

NottsClaret wrote:He wasn't offside, not that it's really the issue. This whole incident doesn't leave much blame on the officials, apart from being conned by Bamford, but that's been put right now anyway.
Appears offside to me - and to others, but maybe you've seen proof, in which case fair enough.

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Re: Leeds - shocking

Post by ClaretTony » Wed May 01, 2019 9:31 am

nil_desperandum wrote:Really not sure about that. You can't have a player taking things into his own hands when everyone has agreed that for the good of the game an "unchallenged" goal should be allowed. It's clearly against the spirit of the game, and as such I think could be covered by the unsporting behaviour list of offences, and also dissent. Dissent both in defying the instruction to allow a goal and also verbal and physical after Adomah scored. The whole point of an "unchallenged" goal is surely to calm things down, not to inflame them as he did?
(Anyway he plays for Leeds so he was obviously in the wrong :lol: :lol: )
Whichever way you look at it, he's done nothing wrong. The referee cannot sanction a walk through goal and, no matter what's been agreed, he's within his rights to defend even though it wasn't the right thing to do.

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Re: Leeds - shocking

Post by nil_desperandum » Wed May 01, 2019 10:15 am

ClaretTony wrote:Whichever way you look at it, he's done nothing wrong. The referee cannot sanction a walk through goal and, no matter what's been agreed, he's within his rights to defend even though it wasn't the right thing to do.
We'll have to agree to disagree.
Watch it back from about 5.30. He's totally out of control and virtually fighting with his own players who are trying to restrain him. If that was against us I'm pretty sure you'd be describing his behaviour as disgraceful. It's clearly dissent and unsporting behaviour. It also wound up the crowd, which was the last thing that the game needed when Bielsa had correctly (an bravely) tried to calm things down.

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Re: Leeds - shocking

Post by claretblue » Wed May 01, 2019 10:39 am

examples of unsporting behavior!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EUoaiUboFs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Leeds - shocking

Post by Sutton-Claret » Wed May 01, 2019 11:02 am

I'm reporting the overuse of the word 'entitled'

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Re: Leeds - shocking

Post by Rileybobs » Wed May 01, 2019 2:24 pm

Apparently Leeds are being charged for match-fixing. If you watch the Villa equaliser back pretty much the whole team let Villa walk the ball into the goal unchallenged. This could cost them promotion.

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Re: Leeds - shocking

Post by FactualFrank » Wed May 01, 2019 2:35 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Apparently Leeds are being charged for match-fixing. If you watch the Villa equaliser back pretty much the whole team let Villa walk the ball into the goal unchallenged.
Huddersfield have been doing this all season!
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Re: Leeds - shocking

Post by moaninclaret » Wed May 01, 2019 2:40 pm

Really dont want Leeds to get promoted, horrible lot, I hope Villa go up, a brilliant away day out, fans are ok too. As for Bamford, his pathetic act deserves a ban hope he gets one.

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Re: Leeds - shocking

Post by Bullabill » Thu May 02, 2019 7:16 am

nil_desperandum wrote:
Really not sure about that. You can't have a player taking things into his own hands when everyone has agreed that for the good of the game an "unchallenged" goal should be allowed.

Pontus Janssen didn't agree. He was playing according to the laws of the game, show me where in those laws 'everyone' can agree to do what was done.

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Re: Leeds - shocking

Post by ClaretTony » Thu May 02, 2019 11:26 am

Bullabill wrote:nil_desperandum wrote:
Really not sure about that. You can't have a player taking things into his own hands when everyone has agreed that for the good of the game an "unchallenged" goal should be allowed.

Pontus Janssen didn't agree. He was playing according to the laws of the game, show me where in those laws 'everyone' can agree to do what was done.
You are right. He was playing according to the laws of the game and has every right to. The only person who can take issue with that is Bielsa because he disobeyed his orders.

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Re: Leeds - shocking

Post by IanMcL » Thu May 02, 2019 3:15 pm

Sutton-Claret wrote:I'm reporting the overuse of the word 'entitled'
Title is not something usually associated with Leeds. Perhaps that is why entitled doesn't fit either!.

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Re: Leeds - shocking

Post by martin_p » Thu May 02, 2019 4:09 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:Appears offside to me - and to others, but maybe you've seen proof, in which case fair enough.
Have a look at post #77 on this thread. Played on by a couple of defenders.

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Re: Leeds - shocking

Post by ClaretTony » Thu May 02, 2019 5:14 pm

Bamford gets two match ban but Leeds thought they could try and get away with it.



Whilst Patrick Bamford did not deny the charge of successful deception of a match official following our Sky Bet Championship game against Aston Villa on Sunday, the club did request a hearing to contest the penalty imposed on the player.

The club felt that given the circumstances surrounding the incident, including the extraordinary act of sportsmanship which saw our head coach Marcelo Bielsa demand our team to allow Aston Villa to score an uncontested equaliser, we could have a sensible discussion around the sanction.

We acknowledge that the FA panel did not feel that to be reasonable and the club therefore joins Patrick in accepting the two-match ban.

Bamford will miss our final game of the 2018/19 campaign away to Ipswich Town as well as the first leg of our Play-Off semi-final.

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Re: Leeds - shocking

Post by ecc » Thu May 02, 2019 5:31 pm

Had just seen that, Tony.

This bit is superb:

"The club felt that given the circumstances surrounding the incident... we could have a sensible discussion around the sanction."

A "sensible decision around the sanction". Classic.

Frank (Casper): we will never forget.

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Re: Leeds - shocking

Post by DCWat » Thu May 02, 2019 5:36 pm

What a bizarre assumption from Leeds.

The right outcome - only problem being that it means Roofe will start who is probably better than Bamford anyway.

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Re: Leeds - shocking

Post by ceborame » Thu May 02, 2019 6:36 pm

Leeds' statement should be that they do not condone what Bamford did and they have fined him a months wages

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