Sterling - no yellow!?

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Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:02 pm

Why? For the foul on Barnes as we breakaway!?

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Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby dpinsussex » Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:23 pm

Difficult decision. My immediate thought was yellow.

However limited view on TV

Thought process for the referee

So the foul itself is no more than a foul and certainly not reckless. No caution

The promising attack scenario. Out wide deep in own half. (Couldnt see what else was in the wider vicinity) debateable caution.

First caution of game? Am I setting my stall out for every innocuous foul ? No caution.


Can see exactly why it wasnt given. No issues for me

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Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:46 pm

Fist pumping aguero as he takes an age to be subbed now

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Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby aggi » Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:23 pm

It's a tactic that City employ in every game. Foul as soon as they lose the ball to stop the opposition. With it being in the opponent's half and spread around the team they normally get away without a booking.
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Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby Vegas Claret » Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:24 pm

to be fair, Barnes seriously threw himself on the floor, not really sure Sterling could do much about it

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Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby theroyaldyche » Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:42 pm

Hes a prick

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Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby RalphCoatesComb » Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:46 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:to be fair, Barnes seriously threw himself on the floor, not really sure Sterling could do much about it


Not seen it played back but looked like he’d clipped Barnes’s heels as he was away. Straight Yellow for me
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Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby tiger76 » Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:49 pm

aggi wrote:It's a tactic that City employ in every game. Foul as soon as they lose the ball to stop the opposition. With it being in the opponent's half and spread around the team they normally get away without a booking.


I believe the phrase you're looking for is a tactical foul,precisely the point OGS was making in mid-week.
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Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby Cubanclaret » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:01 pm

Certainly very unusual not to be awarded a yellow with such a momentum breaking foul. Looked like Barnes went down easily. But if it’s the other way about then it’s a yellow card.

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Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby bfccrazy » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:04 pm

Mentioned during the game that this side of the game might be affected with players/teams reputations subconsciously for a ref.

If that was a Cuty break and Sterling/Sane was running forward with the ball it’d be a yellow just because you’d think there’s a chance something might happen.

When it’s Barnes in that position could a ref think “nothing will probably come of it”.

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Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby randomclaret2 » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:09 pm

Had it been City breaking quickly from deep and one of ours had cynically fouled to stop the attack a Yellow would definitely have been shown.

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Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby elwaclaret » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:10 pm

I think it was a yellow, it was lazy and deliberate. Ash was never going to out sprint city but a decent ball and they’d of had a potential problem.

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Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby PaintYorkClaretnBlue » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:12 pm

bfccrazy wrote:Mentioned during the game that this side of the game might be affected with players/teams reputations subconsciously for a ref.

If that was a Cuty break and Sterling/Sane was running forward with the ball it’d be a yellow just because you’d think there’s a chance something might happen.

When it’s Barnes in that position could a ref think “nothing will probably come of it”.


That’s exactly what I said at the game, the fact that we wouldn’t have broke as quickly shouldn’t make any difference!!
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Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby Lord Beamish » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:12 pm

Weak Ref, overawed by the bright shining City Stars.

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Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby Steve-Harpers-perm » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:13 pm

He should have been booked if not for that but when he blocked the quick free kick in 2nd half.
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Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby bfccrazy » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:15 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:He should have been booked if not for that but when he blocked the quick free kick in 2nd half.


Which time?

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Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby PaintYorkClaretnBlue » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:15 pm

He was constantly in the refs ear all game. I like sterling, a great player and seems a decent bloke but he wound me up with his moaning today.

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Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby SussexDon1inIreland » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:25 pm

Same as usual refs don’t give us decisions against the bigger clubs which in case means virtually everyone else take Southampton’s goalie clattering into Barnes who was then booked

UTC

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Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby gc14 » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:35 pm

It was an obvious yellow ? A player advancing forward deliberately tripped from behind ...
If Barnes tripped Sterling the card would of been straight out without a shadow of doubt ..
The left back screaming abuse at the linesman 4 team mates pulled him back ? Matt Lowton got
a yellow for dissent .. says everything
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Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby Steve1956 » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:38 pm

Every time we play City at the Turf Sterling looks a very ordinary player,I suppose it's not his favourite venue,

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Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby claretblue » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:40 pm

he let his country down! :D

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Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby Steve1956 » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:42 pm

claretblue wrote:he let his country down! :D

Embarrassing.

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Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby claretblue » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:45 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Embarrassing.


did you notice the smiley Steve? ;)

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Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby Dark Cloud » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:52 pm

It was a yellow card all day long and why it wasn't today I'll never know. (Unless of course there's a referees conspiracy and they try their absolute damnest not to give out cards to the "big" teams. Surely not!!)
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Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby Steve1956 » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:54 pm

claretblue wrote:did you notice the smiley Steve? ;)

Yea of course wasn't getting at you I just thought it was embarrassing the day that happened :D

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Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby claretspice » Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:07 pm

dpinsussex wrote:Difficult decision. My immediate thought was yellow.

However limited view on TV

Thought process for the referee

So the foul itself is no more than a foul and certainly not reckless. No caution

The promising attack scenario. Out wide deep in own half. (Couldnt see what else was in the wider vicinity) debateable caution.

First caution of game? Am I setting my stall out for every innocuous foul ? No caution.


Can see exactly why it wasnt given. No issues for me


Always find the insight of a qualified ref hugely interesting...but I thought the fact it was clearly cynical, with no attempt to try and win the ball, overrode everything else and made it a mandatory yellow card?

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Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby martin_p » Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:15 pm

As others have said, if it had been the other way round the yellow would have been out before Sterling hit the ground.
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Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby MT03ALG » Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:54 pm

Should have been a red. With Barnes's pace it was a goal scoring opportunity !!
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Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby IanMcL » Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:00 pm

Yellow for sure.

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Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby Rileybobs » Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:12 pm

Had that been the other way round it would have been a yellow card to one of our players - just like if Barnes’ handball was committed by Kompany we’d definitely have been awarded a penalty.

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Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby CombatClaret » Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:11 am

aggi wrote:It's a tactic that City employ in every game. Foul as soon as they lose the ball to stop the opposition. With it being in the opponent's half and spread around the team they normally get away without a booking.


https://www.theguardian.com/football/au ... ekly-extra

16mins in they cover this City tactic in depth.

Intelligent fouling, breaking up a counter attack at source, stopping the transition into attack in areas where you get fewer yellows.

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Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby Woodleyclaret » Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:49 am

Sterling should have been sent off for the number of yellow card offences and constant whining at the ref

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Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby aggi » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:42 pm

CombatClaret wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/football/audio/2019/apr/25/manchester-city-derby-delight-focus-on-burnley-and-eggs-football-weekly-extra

16mins in they cover this City tactic in depth.

Intelligent fouling, breaking up a counter attack at source, stopping the transition into attack in areas where you get fewer yellows.


Yes, there's a decent twitter thread on it here as well https://twitter.com/utdarena/status/1062747862872797184

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Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Postby Flat Stanley » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:52 pm

If it had been the other way round and Sterling was fouled the whole stadium would have been booing and calling him a cheat for diving. It was a foul but he went down very easy. Thought the ref was correct not to book him but he committed another couple of fouls later and he was lucky to get away with not being booked for persistent fouling.


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