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Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:02 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
Why? For the foul on Barnes as we breakaway!?

Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:23 pm
by dpinsussex
Difficult decision. My immediate thought was yellow.

However limited view on TV

Thought process for the referee

So the foul itself is no more than a foul and certainly not reckless. No caution

The promising attack scenario. Out wide deep in own half. (Couldnt see what else was in the wider vicinity) debateable caution.

First caution of game? Am I setting my stall out for every innocuous foul ? No caution.


Can see exactly why it wasnt given. No issues for me

Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:46 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
Fist pumping aguero as he takes an age to be subbed now

Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:23 pm
by aggi
It's a tactic that City employ in every game. Foul as soon as they lose the ball to stop the opposition. With it being in the opponent's half and spread around the team they normally get away without a booking.

Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:24 pm
by Vegas Claret
to be fair, Barnes seriously threw himself on the floor, not really sure Sterling could do much about it

Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:42 pm
by theroyaldyche
Hes a prick

Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:46 pm
by RalphCoatesComb
Vegas Claret wrote:to be fair, Barnes seriously threw himself on the floor, not really sure Sterling could do much about it
Not seen it played back but looked like he’d clipped Barnes’s heels as he was away. Straight Yellow for me

Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:49 pm
by tiger76
aggi wrote:It's a tactic that City employ in every game. Foul as soon as they lose the ball to stop the opposition. With it being in the opponent's half and spread around the team they normally get away without a booking.
I believe the phrase you're looking for is a tactical foul,precisely the point OGS was making in mid-week.

Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:01 pm
by Cubanclaret
Certainly very unusual not to be awarded a yellow with such a momentum breaking foul. Looked like Barnes went down easily. But if it’s the other way about then it’s a yellow card.

Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:04 pm
by bfccrazy
Mentioned during the game that this side of the game might be affected with players/teams reputations subconsciously for a ref.

If that was a Cuty break and Sterling/Sane was running forward with the ball it’d be a yellow just because you’d think there’s a chance something might happen.

When it’s Barnes in that position could a ref think “nothing will probably come of it”.

Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:09 pm
by randomclaret2
Had it been City breaking quickly from deep and one of ours had cynically fouled to stop the attack a Yellow would definitely have been shown.

Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:10 pm
by elwaclaret
I think it was a yellow, it was lazy and deliberate. Ash was never going to out sprint city but a decent ball and they’d of had a potential problem.

Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:12 pm
by PaintYorkClaretnBlue
bfccrazy wrote:Mentioned during the game that this side of the game might be affected with players/teams reputations subconsciously for a ref.

If that was a Cuty break and Sterling/Sane was running forward with the ball it’d be a yellow just because you’d think there’s a chance something might happen.

When it’s Barnes in that position could a ref think “nothing will probably come of it”.
That’s exactly what I said at the game, the fact that we wouldn’t have broke as quickly shouldn’t make any difference!!

Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:12 pm
by Lord Beamish
Weak Ref, overawed by the bright shining City Stars.

Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:13 pm
by Steve-Harpers-perm
He should have been booked if not for that but when he blocked the quick free kick in 2nd half.

Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:15 pm
by bfccrazy
Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:He should have been booked if not for that but when he blocked the quick free kick in 2nd half.
Which time?

Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:15 pm
by PaintYorkClaretnBlue
He was constantly in the refs ear all game. I like sterling, a great player and seems a decent bloke but he wound me up with his moaning today.

Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:25 pm
by SussexDon1inIreland
Same as usual refs don’t give us decisions against the bigger clubs which in case means virtually everyone else take Southampton’s goalie clattering into Barnes who was then booked

UTC

Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:35 pm
by gc14
It was an obvious yellow ? A player advancing forward deliberately tripped from behind ...
If Barnes tripped Sterling the card would of been straight out without a shadow of doubt ..
The left back screaming abuse at the linesman 4 team mates pulled him back ? Matt Lowton got
a yellow for dissent .. says everything

Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:38 pm
by Steve1956
Every time we play City at the Turf Sterling looks a very ordinary player,I suppose it's not his favourite venue,

Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:40 pm
by claretblue
he let his country down! :D

Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:42 pm
by Steve1956
claretblue wrote:he let his country down! :D
Embarrassing.

Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:45 pm
by claretblue
Steve1956 wrote:Embarrassing.
did you notice the smiley Steve? ;)

Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:52 pm
by Dark Cloud
It was a yellow card all day long and why it wasn't today I'll never know. (Unless of course there's a referees conspiracy and they try their absolute damnest not to give out cards to the "big" teams. Surely not!!)

Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:54 pm
by Steve1956
claretblue wrote:did you notice the smiley Steve? ;)
Yea of course wasn't getting at you I just thought it was embarrassing the day that happened :D

Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:07 pm
by claretspice
dpinsussex wrote:Difficult decision. My immediate thought was yellow.

However limited view on TV

Thought process for the referee

So the foul itself is no more than a foul and certainly not reckless. No caution

The promising attack scenario. Out wide deep in own half. (Couldnt see what else was in the wider vicinity) debateable caution.

First caution of game? Am I setting my stall out for every innocuous foul ? No caution.


Can see exactly why it wasnt given. No issues for me
Always find the insight of a qualified ref hugely interesting...but I thought the fact it was clearly cynical, with no attempt to try and win the ball, overrode everything else and made it a mandatory yellow card?

Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:15 pm
by martin_p
As others have said, if it had been the other way round the yellow would have been out before Sterling hit the ground.

Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:54 pm
by MT03ALG
Should have been a red. With Barnes's pace it was a goal scoring opportunity !!

Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:00 pm
by IanMcL
Yellow for sure.

Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:12 pm
by Rileybobs
Had that been the other way round it would have been a yellow card to one of our players - just like if Barnes’ handball was committed by Kompany we’d definitely have been awarded a penalty.

Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:11 am
by CombatClaret
aggi wrote:It's a tactic that City employ in every game. Foul as soon as they lose the ball to stop the opposition. With it being in the opponent's half and spread around the team they normally get away without a booking.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/au ... ekly-extra" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

16mins in they cover this City tactic in depth.

Intelligent fouling, breaking up a counter attack at source, stopping the transition into attack in areas where you get fewer yellows.

Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:49 am
by Woodleyclaret
Sterling should have been sent off for the number of yellow card offences and constant whining at the ref

Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:42 pm
by aggi
CombatClaret wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/football/au ... ekly-extra

16mins in they cover this City tactic in depth.

Intelligent fouling, breaking up a counter attack at source, stopping the transition into attack in areas where you get fewer yellows.
Yes, there's a decent twitter thread on it here as well https://twitter.com/utdarena/status/1062747862872797184" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Sterling - no yellow!?

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:52 pm
by Flat Stanley
If it had been the other way round and Sterling was fouled the whole stadium would have been booing and calling him a cheat for diving. It was a foul but he went down very easy. Thought the ref was correct not to book him but he committed another couple of fouls later and he was lucky to get away with not being booked for persistent fouling.