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Post by Tricky Trevor » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:43 am

Express reporting Leicester are keeping tabs on him as Utd & Citeh want Maguire.
Don’t shoot the messenger.

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Re: Tarks

Post by Millertime v1.7 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:50 am

Every dog has his day. Sadly for our Russian friend he peaked two years ago and hasn't been able to maintain ANY consistency ever since.

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Re: Tarks

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:06 am

It's why we signed Gibson, Mee will make him worth 40 million :)

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Re: Tarks

Post by MRG » Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:48 am

Vegas Claret wrote:It's why we signed Gibson, Mee will make him worth 40 million :)
Gibson is a left sided centre back, just like Mee. He is not a suitable replacement for Tarks

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Re: Tarks

Post by theroyaldyche » Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:02 am

Why would he go to leicester

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Re: Tarks

Post by Hibsclaret » Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:06 am

theroyaldyche wrote:Why would he go to leicester
100 grand per week
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Re: Tarks

Post by theroyaldyche » Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:12 am

Hibsclaret wrote:100 grand per week
Theyl finish below us next season

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Re: Tarks

Post by Hibsclaret » Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:17 am

They may well do. Even if they do most footballers like money. Also, Rogers is touted as one of the best coaches of young players that has ever walked the earth...however, I think he may go to a bigger team than Leicester, perhaps nearer home.

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Re: Tarks

Post by claretblue » Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:02 am

Hibsclaret wrote:I think he may go to a bigger team than Leicester, perhaps nearer home.
don't think so...Bolton have a transfer embargo! ;)
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Re: Tarks

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:08 am

Good player. Has been excellent for us. But I dont think he is as good as Keane was and has probably hit peak value.

Excellent defender. But sometimes can be guilty of thinking he is better than he is at passing. Which puts us under presssure.

If we got something around what we got for Keane we would have to consider it.

But we cant replace him with Gibson or Long.
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Re: Tarks

Post by CaptainKirk » Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:31 am

I think you may be underestimating Leicester a bit there. I think they will be a top team next season. Now he's left the pub league Rodgers is showing what a good manager he could be and they could be an attractive bet for any player given the chance.
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Re: Tarks

Post by Darnhill Claret » Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:35 am

Don’t be fooled by the ritual that Tarks has. Early in the game he likes to put his foot through it with a long diagonal. Just helps to gauge the atmospherics for the rest of the game.

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Re: Tarks

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:38 am

Vegas Claret wrote:It's why we signed Gibson, Mee will make him worth 40 million :)
Gibson and Mee would never work

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Re: Tarks

Post by Shore claret » Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:56 am

don't understand why any "top team " would want Maguire hes nothing more than ordinary.

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Re: Tarks

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:59 am

Shore claret wrote:don't understand why any "top team " would want Maguire hes nothing more than ordinary.
People may say the same about Mee.

As a defender he is very good. And offers a threat at the other end too. But is pretty limited on the ball or when it comes to pace. But is still a very solid defender. Reminds me of Steve Bruce when he was at United.

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Re: Tarks

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:59 am

ClaretTony wrote:Gibson and Mee would never work
It wont happen. Because there does seem to be a big reluctance to play two players who are left footed (or right footed) together. But I don't think its as big a deal as is made out.

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Re: Tarks

Post by ElectroClaret » Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:00 am

Shore claret wrote:don't understand why any "top team " would want Maguire hes nothing more than ordinary.
If its United he rocks up at, he's certainly better than Smalling or Fat Jones.

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Re: Tarks

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:00 am

CaptainKirk wrote:I think you may be underestimating Leicester a bit there. I think they will be a top team next season. Now he's left the pub league Rodgers is showing what a good manager he could be and they could be an attractive bet for any player given the chance.
Have to agree. Rodgers is a miserable f**ker. And not keen on him personally. But he is a very good manager who plays good football.

I thought Leicester was a bit of a strange move by him. But already showing what a good manager he is.

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Re: Tarks

Post by ashtonlongsider » Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:07 am

Wouldn't surprise me to see Tarks move on in the summer but I think it will be to a a bigger club than Leicester.

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Re: Tarks

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:09 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:It wont happen. Because there does seem to be a big reluctance to play two players who are left footed (or right footed) together. But I don't think its as big a deal as is made out.
Always found it strange that you can play two right footers but it doesn't work with two left footers.

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Re: Tarks

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:54 am

ClaretTony wrote:Always found it strange that you can play two right footers but it doesn't work with two left footers.
Agree. I think its porbably because there are more people who are right footed therefore its more common, especially at junior level for two right footers to play together.

And it doesn't affect us in other areas of the pitch - Wood and Barnes. Westwood and Cork.

That said we did seem to have a good balance with Jones and Marney and always have with Duff and Shackell, Mee and Keane, Mee and Tarks.

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Re: Tarks

Post by gtclaret » Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:24 am

I remember when I was a child, my dad telling me that I would never be a footballer unless I was able to use both feet. For months I would only use my left foot. Strangely it helped, not in football, but in my balance as a dancer. I do think though, that all professional footballers should be two footed
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Re: Tarks

Post by Shore claret » Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:56 am

ElectroClaret wrote:If its United he rocks up at, he's certainly better than Smalling or Fat Jones.
That's uniteds problem, you can have one average centre back but you cant have 2, Smalling and Jones both average.
Liverpool are lucky they have Van Dijk, all their other centre back are average.

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Re: Tarks

Post by BurnleyFC » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:14 pm

Tarky must be a terrific technician and have wonderful character if Brendan is looking at him.

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Re: Tarks

Post by Tricky Trevor » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:44 pm

I doubt we can afford him but expecting Jones to be heaved out of OT.
He would be perfect for us. Battles, plays CH or defensive MF. He might not be a top6 CH but he would do a great job for us.

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Re: Tarks

Post by AndyClaret » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:55 pm

If Leicester want £90M for Maguire, how much is Tarky worth ?

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Re: Tarks

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:06 pm

gtclaret wrote:I remember when I was a child, my dad telling me that I would never be a footballer unless I was able to use both feet. For months I would only use my left foot. Strangely it helped, not in football, but in my balance as a dancer. I do think though, that all professional footballers should be two footed
I've said this before and totally agree. A defender should be able to control, turn, pass or kick long with either foot, so it shouldn't make a difference. One of my nephews is 6 and whilst his strongest foot is his right, I've always got him using his left as well when we've been down at the park, in the garden etc and he can now pass with his left foot and shoot reasonably well with it too. They should certainly be coaching that more in the younger ages as it can be done in a fun way, which is what's important at that age.

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Re: Tarks

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:08 pm

As for Tarky, we'll be short changed if he goes for less than £50 million and I'd also want us to get a decent sell on % if he moved on again.

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Re: Tarks

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:10 pm

MRG wrote:Gibson is a left sided centre back, just like Mee. He is not a suitable replacement for Tarks
didn't realise he was left footed because he hardly ever plays, fair point !! In which case we'll need a new CB if Tarks leaves !
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Re: Tarks

Post by Steve1956 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:13 pm

AndyClaret wrote:If Leicester want £90M for Maguire, how much is Tarky worth ?
Like for like Tarkowski is a better player than Maguire,I think he will leave us in the summer for a bigger club than Leicester.

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Re: Tarks

Post by Taffy on the wing » Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:52 pm

Maguire is a big threat from set pieces!... When Tarky heads the ball, it often looks like it bounced off a cube.......flies anywhere and everywhere.

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Re: Tarks

Post by Lord Beamish » Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:53 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:Maguire is a big threat from set pieces!... When Tarky heads the ball, it often looks like it bounced off a cube.......flies anywhere and everywhere.
Biscuit tin head.
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Re: Tarks

Post by Stayingup » Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:00 pm

Millertime v1.7 wrote:Every dog has his day. Sadly for our Russian friend he peaked two years ago and hasn't been able to maintain ANY consistency ever since.
Whose this Russian then?

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Re: Tarks

Post by jrgbfc » Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:03 pm

So Tarkowski is better than Maguire who didn't put a foot wrong when England reached the world cup Semis? What are we basing that on, when we take off our claret tinted specs?

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Re: Tarks

Post by Stayingup » Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:03 pm

Can't understand negative comments about Tarkowski. He's been fantastic for us. Big, strong and a absolute snip at 3 million

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Post by Stayingup » Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:04 pm

jrgbfc wrote:So Tarkowski is better than Maguire who didn't put a foot wrong when England reached the world cup Semis? What are we basing that on, when we take off our claret tinted specs?
Yep right till we played a decent team

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Re: Tarks

Post by jrgbfc » Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:06 pm

Stayingup wrote:Yep right till we played a decent team
If anyone was at fault for Croatia's winner it was Trippier and Walker. I'm just struggling to see why people think Tarks is better than Maguire tbh.

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Re: Tarks

Post by Stayingup » Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:39 pm

jrgbfc wrote:If anyone was at fault for Croatia's winner it was Trippier and Walker. I'm just struggling to see why people think Tarks is better than Maguire tbh.
One is left sided one is right sided. I havent seen too much of Maguire (in fact only 4 minutes this season !!!). But I would think.Maguire edges it.

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Re: Tarks

Post by Spijed » Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:02 pm

Whether it's Tarkowski, Keane, Maguire, Stones, Walker, Trippier, Alexander-Arnold etc. there hasn't been an English top class defender since Terry, Ferdinand and Ashley Cole played for England.

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Re: Tarks

Post by boatshed bill » Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:02 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Gibson and Mee would never work
Did we sign Gibson because Mee had been stalling on his latest deal and may have wanted out?

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Re: Tarks

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:22 pm

boatshed bill wrote:Did we sign Gibson because Mee had been stalling on his latest deal and may have wanted out?
We signed him because we needed another central defender. The Mee deal was all but done. We moved for Gibson when we missed out on Mawson.

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Re: Tarks

Post by bodge » Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:23 pm

Wonder what Mawson is thinking now ?

Pity poor Alfie.

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Re: Tarks

Post by ksrclaret » Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:43 pm

I can say with some certainty that Dyche would have no issues playing with two left footed centre halves in the team.

And I can say that because he simply wouldn’t have bought Gibson if that was the case.

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Re: Tarks

Post by gtclaret » Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:44 pm

bodge wrote:Wonder what Mawson is thinking now ?

Pity poor Alfie.
He's thinking I got more money than I would have got at Burnley so I don't give a sh1t

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Re: Tarks

Post by Siddo » Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:48 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I've said this before and totally agree. A defender should be able to control, turn, pass or kick long with either foot, so it shouldn't make a difference. One of my nephews is 6 and whilst his strongest foot is his right, I've always got him using his left as well when we've been down at the park, in the garden etc and he can now pass with his left foot and shoot reasonably well with it too. They should certainly be coaching that more in the younger ages as it can be done in a fun way, which is what's important at that age.
I totally agree, but modern coaches tend to concentrate on working on outfield players strengths, and only to a lesser extent on their weaknesses. Well, that's what Zidane said......

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Re: Tarks

Post by Spijed » Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:06 pm

gtclaret wrote:I remember when I was a child, my dad telling me that I would never be a footballer unless I was able to use both feet. For months I would only use my left foot. Strangely it helped, not in football, but in my balance as a dancer. I do think though, that all professional footballers should be two footed
Both Arjen Robben & Ryan Giggs were pretty much one-footed throughout their careers and it never stopped them playing at the highest level.

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Re: Tarks

Post by Selby Claret » Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:35 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Agree. I think its porbably because there are more people who are right footed therefore its more common, especially at junior level for two right footers to play together.
I actually think there's value in having left footed centre halves. Given that more players favour their right foot to shoot then they'd more likely take on a centre half to the defender's left in order to strike centrally towards goal - much like having a left footed left back to combat a right footed winger's crosses.
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Re: Tarks

Post by IWOODLOVETT » Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:05 am

You don’t often see a more one-footed player than our own Charlie Taylor. It limits his effectiveness as he never switches to deliver an in swinging cross with his right foot and, when isolated in defence, wingers will always cut inside on his weak right side.

Opponents know these are his weaknesses and set up for them.
Unfortunately Charlie will never become an international player or play at a higher level unless he can find a coach who can miraculously change his spots.

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Re: Tarks

Post by Tricky Trevor » Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:22 am

IWOODLOVETT wrote:You don’t often see a more one-footed player than our own Charlie Taylor. It limits his effectiveness as he never switches to deliver an in swinging cross with his right foot and, when isolated in defence, wingers will always cut inside on his weak right side.
Opponents know these are his weaknesses and set up for them.
Unfortunately Charlie will never become an international player or play at a higher level unless he can find a coach who can miraculously change his spots.
Agree but you can get a lovely, natural bend on the ball with the outside of your boot. Why can’t he check back and try that? Only negative being it is bending towards the keeper.

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Re: Tarks

Post by nyclaret » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:00 am

ksrclaret wrote:I can say with some certainty that Dyche would have no issues playing with two left footed centre halves in the team.

And I can say that because he simply wouldn’t have bought Gibson if that was the case.
He would play Long on the right side before Gibson.

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