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Re: Come on Newcastle

Post by SGr » Sat May 04, 2019 9:34 pm

Anyone who says the Premier League has declined is a flat out liar. This for me has been the best the Premier League has ever been - two incredible sides competing for the title, and two sides in the Champions League semis. Top top quality. We’re here at the right time tbh.
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Re: Come on Newcastle

Post by Darnhill Claret » Sat May 04, 2019 9:37 pm

Sturridge did not want to get in that wall.

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Re: Come on Newcastle

Post by ElectroClaret » Sat May 04, 2019 9:40 pm

SGr wrote:Anyone who says the Premier League has declined is a flat out liar. This for me has been the best the Premier League has ever been - two incredible sides competing for the title, and two sides in the Champions League semis. Top top quality. We’re here at the right time tbh.
Yes. Spot on.

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Re: Come on Newcastle

Post by Hipper » Sat May 04, 2019 9:41 pm

I look at the table and I see a virtually unimpeachable top six, then the rest of us. I don't like that at all.
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Re: Come on Newcastle

Post by SGr » Sat May 04, 2019 9:48 pm

Hipper wrote:I look at the table and I see a virtually unimpeachable top six, then the rest of us. I don't like that at all.
Disagree. Look at Arsenal and then look at Wolves. One is a side handing Özil top wages and the other is a project aiming for a European spot in their first season of Premier League football under the new ownership.

One is a project. One is a mess.

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Re: Come on Newcastle

Post by FactualFrank » Sat May 04, 2019 9:48 pm

Leicester playing well. Won't be easy for City.

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Re: Come on Newcastle

Post by Spijed » Sat May 04, 2019 9:54 pm

SGr wrote:Rafa is an incredible tactical coach
SD ain't bad either!

Shows how good we've been of late that we can possibly overtake them on the last game of the season.

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Re: Come on Newcastle

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat May 04, 2019 9:55 pm

Fair play to Liverpool for taking this City team to the last day, it'll mean City spend another 200 million in the summer and the top 6 will just move further away from the rest of us

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Re: Come on Newcastle

Post by IanMcL » Sat May 04, 2019 9:56 pm

Leicester could still take 7th and impact the championship race!

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Re: Come on Newcastle

Post by Spijed » Sat May 04, 2019 10:03 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Fair play to Liverpool for taking this City team to the last day, it'll mean City spend another 200 million in the summer and the top 6 will just move further away from the rest of us
I'd say apart from Liverpool & Man City the other four teams are no better, if perhaps worse than last season. None of them have played well in recent weeks.

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Re: Come on Newcastle

Post by Vino blanco » Sat May 04, 2019 10:03 pm

That was not a foul that led to Liverpool's winning goal. What was the linesman actually seeing?
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Re: Come on Newcastle

Post by Darnhill Claret » Sat May 04, 2019 10:04 pm

Vegas, City spent £69.38m in the since the end of last season, a net spend of between £20m/£21m. You might be mistaking them with their noisy neighbours from Old Trafford.

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Re: Come on Newcastle

Post by Royboyclaret » Sat May 04, 2019 10:14 pm

Newcastle played their part tonight in a pulsating game of football. So much quality in their team and yet, depending on results next weekend, we can finish above them in the table. A tremendous achievement that would be for us.
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Re: Come on Newcastle

Post by Spijed » Sat May 04, 2019 10:24 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:Newcastle played their part tonight in a pulsating game of football. So much quality in their team and yet, depending on results next weekend, we can finish above them in the table. A tremendous achievement that would be for us.
Nest weekend Newcastle are away to Fulham & Southampton at home to Huddersfield.

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Re: Come on Newcastle

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat May 04, 2019 11:32 pm

Spijed wrote:I'd say apart from Liverpool & Man City the other four teams are no better, if perhaps worse than last season. None of them have played well in recent weeks.
yeah, but if City spend 200 million, Man utd will need to spend 3 times that, Wolves and Everton will no doubt spend north of 100 million as could Leicester - like you pointed out the other day, the mystic 40 point mark could well be 32 or thereabouts next season. The division is getting even more divided every season and the bottom 6 times might end up only winning 8-10 games a season

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Re: Come on Newcastle

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat May 04, 2019 11:34 pm

Darnhill Claret wrote:Vegas, City spent £69.38m in the since the end of last season, a net spend of between £20m/£21m. You might be mistaking them with their noisy neighbours from Old Trafford.
oh is that all, I'm talking about this summer if they don't win the league - they'll spend a fortune

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Re: Come on Newcastle

Post by tiger76 » Sat May 04, 2019 11:46 pm

SGr wrote:Disagree. Look at Arsenal and then look at Wolves. One is a side handing Özil top wages and the other is a project aiming for a European spot in their first season of Premier League football under the new ownership.

One is a project. One is a mess.
Arsenal's front two are world-class,the rest are average at best,hence their inconsistency.

We can definitely turn them over next Sunday.

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Re: Come on Newcastle

Post by Spijed » Sat May 04, 2019 11:53 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:yeah, but if City spend 200 million, Man utd will need to spend 3 times that, Wolves and Everton will no doubt spend north of 100 million as could Leicester - like you pointed out the other day, the mystic 40 point mark could well be 32 or thereabouts next season. The division is getting even more divided every season and the bottom 6 times might end up only winning 8-10 games a season
They say no club has ever been relegated if they've won 11 matches so that probably isn't much different. I think the 40 point mark was only ever used because it's a nice round number.

Relegation (18th placed team) currently averages around the 36 point mark and I think without looking back, that Cardiff - were they to finish on 31, would be the lowest since we went down with 30 points in 2009/10.

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Re: Come on Newcastle

Post by scouseclaret » Sun May 05, 2019 7:45 am

Something I’ve always wondered. When you talk about points needed to survive in any one season, should you look at the points gained by the third bottom team (ie the points needed to have finished above the highest relegated team) or fourth bottom (I.e the points the third bottom team would have needed to finish fourth bottom)?
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Re: Come on Newcastle

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun May 05, 2019 7:55 am

Third bottom. The survival line is one point above that.

If third bottom finish on, say, 32 points and fourth bottom on 38 points then using 38 as the points needed to survive would be inaccurate.

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Re: Come on Newcastle

Post by scouseclaret » Sun May 05, 2019 7:59 am

That’s the way it’s generally done, but surely it’s just as fair to say that the team that was relegated needed 38 (or 39) points to survive that season.

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Re: Come on Newcastle

Post by Siddo » Sun May 05, 2019 9:39 am

Spijed wrote:They say no club has ever been relegated if they've won 11 matches so that probably isn't much different. I think the 40 point mark was only ever used because it's a nice round number.

Relegation (18th placed team) currently averages around the 36 point mark and I think without looking back, that Cardiff - were they to finish on 31, would be the lowest since we went down with 30 points in 2009/10.
The 40 point mark is used because statistically and analytically, only 2 teams have ever been relegated from the premier league when hitting the 40 point mark.
I don't know what you mean by saying that mark is used because it's a nice round number?

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