Biggest flop of the season

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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by SGr » Thu May 09, 2019 6:08 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:He has 20 league goals this season.

Kept a very average Arsenal side going.
For a marquee signing of his fee I’d expect more both in terms of goals and what he brings elsewhere. Kane for example is superior in almost every aspect of football.

Second only to Callum Wilson for big chances missed, and will be 30 in just over month. Just hasn’t justified the price tag at all in my opinion.

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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by tim_noone » Thu May 09, 2019 6:43 pm

Iloveyoubrady wrote:Anguissa at Fulham - cost over 20 mil and nobody knows who he his
Who??

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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by Claret Toni » Thu May 09, 2019 7:45 pm

...and if we're thinking Burnley, sadly Defour

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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu May 09, 2019 9:20 pm

Claret Toni wrote:...and if we're thinking Burnley, sadly Defour
I wouldn’t call being injured all year being a flop.

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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu May 09, 2019 9:57 pm

SGr wrote:For a marquee signing of his fee I’d expect more both in terms of goals and what he brings elsewhere. Kane for example is superior in almost every aspect of football.

Second only to Callum Wilson for big chances missed, and will be 30 in just over month. Just hasn’t justified the price tag at all in my opinion.
A hat-trick in the away leg of the Europa league semi final to take you through must pay quite a bit of his fee off?

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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by SGr » Thu May 09, 2019 11:59 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:A hat-trick in the away leg of the Europa league semi final to take you through must pay quite a bit of his fee off?
Good game from him. Needs to show that more often for the money invested in him. And given his age, time is running out for that.

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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by superdimitri » Fri May 10, 2019 4:39 am

I guess he hasn't been mentioned because no one can spell his name but in terms of % of total budget spent and risk it's got to be Alireza Jahanbakhsh at Brighton.

Record signing at EUR 19m and not an assist or goal to his name in 19 appearances.

Personally I love the guy.
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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri May 10, 2019 7:29 am

SGr wrote:Good game from him. Needs to show that more often for the money invested in him. And given his age, time is running out for that.
Let's hope he saves it for next season though and not Sunday.

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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by Swizzlestick » Fri May 10, 2019 7:36 am

SGr wrote:For a marquee signing of his fee I’d expect more both in terms of goals and what he brings elsewhere. Kane for example is superior in almost every aspect of football.

Second only to Callum Wilson for big chances missed, and will be 30 in just over month. Just hasn’t justified the price tag at all in my opinion.
And yet, is level on goals with Aguero with a far less talented midfield behind him. While his all round game isn’t as good as Kane, it’s a bit of a stretch to call him a flop.

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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri May 10, 2019 7:56 am

Aubameyang ? 29 goals in all comps, only Salah by 2 has scored more Prem goals and he's been a flop

Jesus, some of the guff spouted on here and twitter towards our club becomes easier to get your head around when you see things like this

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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by Steve1956 » Fri May 10, 2019 8:08 am

Claret Toni wrote:...and if we're thinking Burnley, sadly Defour
Rubbish!

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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by SGr » Fri May 10, 2019 10:13 am

Swizzlestick wrote:And yet, is level on goals with Aguero with a far less talented midfield behind him. While his all round game isn’t as good as Kane, it’s a bit of a stretch to call him a flop.
I think given the far more limited resources Arsenal have comparatively, the money expended on Aubameyang will ultimately prove to be a mistake. Much like the new Ozil contract.

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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by SGr » Fri May 10, 2019 10:15 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Aubameyang ? 29 goals in all comps, only Salah by 2 has scored more Prem goals and he's been a flop

Jesus, some of the guff spouted on here and twitter towards our club becomes easier to get your head around when you see things like this
Not calling him an outright flop, I’m saying he hasn’t/won’t justify such an enormous investment.

This the same Salah that cost considerably less than him yeah?

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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by Falcon » Fri May 10, 2019 10:57 am

My willy when I take off my underpants

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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by Hibsclaret » Fri May 10, 2019 11:01 am

SGr wrote:Not calling him an outright flop, I’m saying he hasn’t/won’t justify such an enormous investment.

This the same Salah that cost considerably less than him yeah?
So how many goals should he have scored to justify the investment? 35? 40? 45?

Really......

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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by SGr » Fri May 10, 2019 12:11 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:So how many goals should he have scored to justify the investment? 35? 40? 45?

Really......
Would want more to his all round game as well, he doesn’t have much else. That being said, 20 big chances missed - only Callum Wilson has more. And he’s 30 years old next month.

Hopefully this will be will the last time I have to say this: I didn’t say he was an outright flop, I said he wasn’t worth what Arsenal invested. This becomes even more apparent given what was said about their transfer budget in January.

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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri May 10, 2019 12:22 pm

You want more to his game than the 98 goals in 144 games for Dortmund, more than his 39 goals in 63 for Arsenal ? you mean like assists ? or do they not count ?

Bit of a flop, to not much to his game, moved on to missed chances and now his age.

Considering the whole point of the thread was "biggest flop of the season" - none of your gripes are relevant but using your claims Lukaku has had a better season ?

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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by SGr » Fri May 10, 2019 12:27 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:You want more to his game than the 98 goals in 144 games for Dortmund, more than his 39 goals in 63 for Arsenal ? you mean like assists ? or do they not count ?

Bit of a flop, to not much to his game, moved on to missed chances and now his age.

Considering the whole point of the thread was "biggest flop of the season" - none of your gripes are relevant but using your claims Lukaku has had a better season ?
He missed loads of opportunities for Dortmund too. They just happen to create an enormous amount in that division, way more than Arsenal. I didn’t “move on” to anything. I stated I didn’t think he was worth what they paid and there are a number of a reasons why I think that. You can choose to agree or disagree, but I’m not saying it for the sake of it.

Anyway, I made it quite clear in my original post that Fred and Anguissa were the flops of the season. The others were just additional mentions.

Can call what I’m saying “gripes” and “guff” as much as you like, but this is a pretty straightforward debate I’m having. Think you need to calm down ;)

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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by CnBtruntru » Fri May 10, 2019 12:36 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:The wife's boobies! :o
Yeh, I had noticed that as well .......... :o

But Sanchez is a bigger flop ;)

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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by bfcjg » Fri May 10, 2019 7:41 pm

Steve McClaren.

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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by IanMcL » Fri May 10, 2019 7:55 pm

Us losing to Burton upon Trent.

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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by CFS » Sat May 11, 2019 12:23 am

Brighton spending north of £70m on players who have done nowt all season.

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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by Taffy on the wing » Sat May 11, 2019 4:25 am

4:20 wrote:Alexis Sanchez, I only think he's scored 1 or 2 and played for maybe half the games, on mega mega bucks too.
Yes, but to be fair .....he is almost 40 yrs old! (well he looks it!)
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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by Taffy on the wing » Sat May 11, 2019 4:28 am

Pimlico_Claret wrote:Been better off with Fred Dibnah, at least he had bit of bottle (Google him young un's).
Bit of bottle?.......more bottle than anyone i can think of!

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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by Taffy on the wing » Sat May 11, 2019 4:30 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Sanchez is the biggest flop of the season.

Over paid and on this season massively over rated.
Utd are possibly going to have to fund his wages to get rid at a cost of approx £13million...
How sad :lol:

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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by Taffy on the wing » Sat May 11, 2019 4:33 am

Tricky Trevor wrote:KieranTrippier. After a brilliant World Cup, nothing.
I'd take him back in a heartbeat!.....one of the best crossers of the ball i've seen at Burnley.
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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by Dark Cloud » Sat May 11, 2019 12:26 pm

CnBtruntru wrote:Yeh, I had noticed that as well .......... :o

But Sanchez is a bigger flop ;)
You wouldn't say that if you'd REALLY seen my wife!!! ;)

Plus any mention of Steve McLaren is plain lazy and isn't fair because he's up there EVERY season.

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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by Quicknick » Sat May 11, 2019 1:57 pm

Bradford City.
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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by dougcollins » Sat May 11, 2019 8:19 pm

It's fair to say City have been particularly dreadful.

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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by Archer » Sun May 12, 2019 9:39 pm

SGr wrote:For a marquee signing of his fee I’d expect more both in terms of goals and what he brings elsewhere. Kane for example is superior in almost every aspect of football.

Second only to Callum Wilson for big chances missed, and will be 30 in just over month. Just hasn’t justified the price tag at all in my opinion.
Agreed

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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun May 12, 2019 9:45 pm

Aubameyang has scored 31 goals so far this season, how anybody can say he has been a flop is hilarious

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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by SGr » Sun May 12, 2019 11:03 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Aubameyang has scored 31 goals so far this season, how anybody can say he has been a flop is hilarious
Well I didn’t say he was an outright flop, my comments on his value for money were blown out of proportion.

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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon May 13, 2019 5:12 am

SGr wrote:Well I didn’t say he was an outright flop, my comments on his value for money were blown out of proportion.
Time to just hold your hand up and say 'I got it wrong'.

The lad won the Golden boot yesterday.

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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by Woodleyclaret » Mon May 13, 2019 7:07 am

Unfortunately Aubameyangs a class act as he showed yesterday .But sometimes £40m +gets you quality ,often it gets you crap players hyped up by agents and pundits

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Re: Biggest flop of the season

Post by Stayingup » Mon May 13, 2019 5:38 pm

Bosscat wrote:Brexit :roll:

Now now its a genuine football thread although I'm tempted to put T. May.

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