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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by thatdberight » Thu May 09, 2019 2:43 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote:Won so many awards for broadcasting and the best the BBC can do is find him a 2 hour slot on a Saturday morning.

Yes he’s a bit anarchic - but that’s what the listeners want - check who wins the awards for broadcasting
I really liked him a long time ago. It now seems that it's 1) the same as it was twenty years ago and 2) more than a bit forced. He'll doubtless pop up again somewhere soon.

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by aggi » Thu May 09, 2019 2:53 pm

Given comments he's made in the past re: racism I'd suspect that Danny Baker isn't racist. However it was an ill judged tweet and it's not that surprising he's been sacked.

It's interesting to compare this BBC reaction to Alan Sugar's racist tweet last year. He refused to apologise and the BBC did nothing.
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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu May 09, 2019 3:02 pm

**** me backwards, so now you can't imply that a child is a cheeky monkey. Everything is deemed racist nowadays, common sense is so far out of the window with this it's unfathomable.
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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by Test User » Thu May 09, 2019 3:08 pm

aggi wrote:Given comments he's made in the past re: racism I'd suspect that Danny Baker isn't racist. However it was an ill judged tweet and it's not that surprising he's been sacked.

It's interesting to compare this BBC reaction to Alan Sugar's racist tweet last year. He refused to apologise and the BBC did nothing.
I don't believe Alan Sugar is a BBC employee.

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by Wile E Coyote » Thu May 09, 2019 3:12 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:When did the BBC last rerun anything of Spike Milligan?
about 3 times a week every week of the year.

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by thatdberight » Thu May 09, 2019 3:14 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:**** me backwards, so now you can't imply that a child is a cheeky monkey. Everything is deemed racist nowadays, common sense is so far out of the window with this it's unfathomable.
That is part of the problem with this particular. You say "cheeky monkey". Baker's not saying that was the intent of his tweet. The point (if any) of the picture and the "joke" are so obtuse, so unfathomable and so unfunny that people are, quite reasonably, going, "WTF is that about?". Add that to the febrile atmosphere we have round this sort of issue these days and people make up their own rationale, however likely or unlikely, and there you go...

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by aggi » Thu May 09, 2019 3:20 pm

Test User wrote:I don't believe Alan Sugar is a BBC employee.
He isn't. But they could still choose to not broadcast his show or apply other sanctions.

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by Bosscat » Thu May 09, 2019 3:32 pm

aggi wrote:He isn't. But they could still choose to not broadcast his show or apply other sanctions.
Can just picture the BBC pointing a finger at Lord Sugar and saying "your fired" ironic innit
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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu May 09, 2019 4:34 pm

thatdberight wrote:That is part of the problem with this particular. You say "cheeky monkey". Baker's not saying that was the intent of his tweet. The point (if any) of the picture and the "joke" are so obtuse, so unfathomable and so unfunny that people are, quite reasonably, going, "WTF is that about?". Add that to the febrile atmosphere we have round this sort of issue these days and people make up their own rationale, however likely or unlikely, and there you go...
if it's not racist then the fact people can't figure it out is irrelevant

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by thatdberight » Thu May 09, 2019 5:02 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:if it's not racist then the fact people can't figure it out is irrelevant
I can't say if it was or wasn't. Only one person can.

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by evensteadiereddie » Thu May 09, 2019 5:29 pm

A stupid comment which makes little sense. He can, of course, deny any racist connotation, that's up to him. It's also up to other folk to decide what level of prick this bloke is.
Either way, if he'd been in any other kind of public service, teaching for instance, his feet wouldn't have touched the ground.
I've no time for the Royals but this is a cowardly, snidey attack and I'm delighted the canute has got the bullet.
The apologists for him on here don't surprise me one bit.
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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by bfccrazy » Thu May 09, 2019 5:34 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Sure, I think that's below the belt. Which is why I put, "but it does sound like the sort that would make it easy for them to take offence and sack someone."
I should have been clearer - I meant from Danny Bakers view that it was a bit of a di(k move to post it and replied to you as you hadn’t seen it before.

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by Damo » Thu May 09, 2019 5:39 pm

Should of seen this coming
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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by AndyClaret » Thu May 09, 2019 5:49 pm

The left despise the Royals, unless there's a chance to virtue signal about ethnicity.

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by Rick_Muller » Thu May 09, 2019 5:54 pm

If he genuinely thinks he shouldn’t have been sacked he can take the BBC to tribunal for unfair dismissal can’t he...?

I always found his show on 5Live tedious and boring, he always liked himself too much.

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by evensteadiereddie » Thu May 09, 2019 6:13 pm

AndyClaret wrote:The left despise the Royals, unless there's a chance to virtue signal about ethnicity.
You really reckon this is left-wing virtue signalling ? There's something seriously wrong with you.

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by Tall Paul » Thu May 09, 2019 6:18 pm

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by IanMcL » Thu May 09, 2019 6:45 pm

Where does this leave the sausage sandwich question?

I like his quick wit and will miss him on the way, up the motorways, to Turf Moor.

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by ksrclaret » Thu May 09, 2019 6:49 pm

He always was an ugly bar steward, turns out he's a very stupid one at best, and a racist one at worst.

Glad he's been potted

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by NottsClaret » Thu May 09, 2019 6:57 pm

I found him pretty annoying but it's a strange one this. If he's a racist, he's kept it well hidden for 61 years considering he's spent most of his life in the public eye and struggles to keep his mouth shut.

It was ridiculously naive and not even funny but I'm leaning towards him not being an old-school banana throwing racist. Not arsed he's been sacked though.

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by FactualFrank » Thu May 09, 2019 7:02 pm

ksrclaret wrote:He always was an ugly bar steward, turns out he's a very stupid one at best, and a racist one at worst.

Glad he's been potted
Not sure how, how he looks, has anything to do with this.

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by Wuggawumphwumph » Thu May 09, 2019 8:17 pm

In the prick stakes not far behind brand.

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Thu May 09, 2019 8:21 pm

Least the headline writers will know what to use.

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by Sutton-Claret » Thu May 09, 2019 8:23 pm

Not really a fan of him but I don't think anybody believes he's a racist or the joke he put on twitter was intended to be racist. The BBC have to be seen to be active in clamping out any hint of racism within their employees. I suspect 10 years ago he would have kept his job.

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by JohnMac » Thu May 09, 2019 8:36 pm

10 years ago it might have been on Spitting Image but those days are firmly in the past.

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by thatdberight » Thu May 09, 2019 8:39 pm

Sutton-Claret wrote:...I don't think anybody believes he's a racist or the joke he put on twitter was intended to be racist.
Oh, they do. In other forums, I'm seeing it. He is racist or at least made a racist tweet or, that other favourite, he's got that inbuilt racism white people suffer from that they don't even know about because it's so ingrained and you can't argue against it or you're racist too because you're belittling someone's "lived experience".
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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by Sutton-Claret » Thu May 09, 2019 8:42 pm

JohnMac wrote:10 years ago it might have been on Spitting Image but those days are firmly in the past.
Spitting Image was more like 25 to 30 years ago - very different times.......

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by Stayingup » Thu May 09, 2019 8:58 pm

The London and Brussels Broadcaating Company strikes again. Sacks this bloke for a silly misguided comment but leaves in place the odious Frankie Boyle who makes jokes about the disabled and the equally odious Jimmy Carr.

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by Funkydrummer » Thu May 09, 2019 9:19 pm

I've never been keen on the guy, he has far too much to say and seems to find difficulty in
keeping his mouth shut when guests of his show his are speaking.

However I feel he was in the right in the link below, which I remember very well being broadcast.

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by Burnley Ace » Thu May 09, 2019 9:23 pm

The question isn’t whether he is a racist, it doesn’t matter that his best friend is black and he doesn’t have a history of this sort of behaviour.

His motivation isn’t an issue either. If someone viewing the picture thinks it’s racist then, to them, it is. If a million people looking at the picture think it’s racist, then it’s even more likely that it is.

Where did he find that picture? What website or app was he looking at and what was the context. What has compounded this error is his quite pathetic excuse that he didn’t realise it was Meghans baby!!

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by evensteadiereddie » Thu May 09, 2019 9:46 pm

Stayingup wrote:The London and Brussels Broadcaating Company strikes again. Sacks this bloke for a silly misguided comment but leaves in place the odious Frankie Boyle who makes jokes about the disabled and the equally odious Jimmy Carr.
Wow. :?

Who the f is the LBBC ?

A shame that - you almost had a witty, albeit utterly stupid, contribution to make.

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by Stayingup » Thu May 09, 2019 9:56 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:Wow. :?

Who the f is the LBBC ?

A shame that - you almost had a witty, albeit utterly stupid, contribution to make.
Matter of opinion leftie boy. If you dont understand dont you make stupid comments. Because there is othi g stupid in what I said. Nothing.

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by Wile E Coyote » Thu May 09, 2019 10:05 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:A stupid comment which makes little sense. He can, of course, deny any racist connotation, that's up to him. It's also up to other folk to decide what level of prick this bloke is.
Either way, if he'd been in any other kind of public service, teaching for instance, his feet wouldn't have touched the ground.
I've no time for the Royals but this is a cowardly, snidey attack and I'm delighted the canute has got the bullet.
The apologists for him on here don't surprise me one bit.
what a crass and inane summary, you obviously detest the bloke and base your vile opinions on that.
You're doubtless one of those that would defend him had he been a particular radio favourite.
The context of his tweet has been adequately explained, but if you can't grasp the meaning, then it says more about your gullibility.

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by Funkydrummer » Thu May 09, 2019 10:10 pm

Come on children, play nicely. :)

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Thu May 09, 2019 10:30 pm

Can he do a job in midfield?

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by d1sc0 » Thu May 09, 2019 10:47 pm

Dyche to BBC????

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by ClaretLoup » Thu May 09, 2019 11:02 pm

He is a fat cockney w*n**r

If he cannot connect up the dots between the disgusting racial abuse the likes of Sterling Rose and Hudson-Odoi received in Montenegro recently and Megan's mixed racial background then he is bigger f**kwit than I previously imagined.
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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by dsr » Fri May 10, 2019 6:50 am

I suspect that where Baker went wrong is that he forgot that Mrs. Harry is black. He thought she was just another person. And if he had tweeted that picture about any other royal lady, it would have been no problem.

But Meghan isn't "any other royal lady". She is black. First and foremost, she is black. Yes, she has other attributes, including being a woman, a princess, and a mother, but first and foremost she is black, and this needs to be at the forefront of every broadcaster's mind when making jokes about her or any other black person. You can't treat them differently from white people, because that would be racist. You can't treat them the same, eiterh, because that is racist too. Better not to mention them - treat black people as if they didn't exist. It isn't tactful to make jokes.

Obviously Baker didn't deliberately make a "black people look like chimpanzees" "joke". He couldn't be that stupid. He made a "royal babies are inbred" joke, forgetting that one of the royal parents has black heritage.
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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by fatboy47 » Fri May 10, 2019 7:12 am

Dsr nails it......thank you dsr....spot on.

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by Devils_Advocate » Fri May 10, 2019 8:53 am

dsr wrote:I suspect that where Baker went wrong is that he forgot that Mrs. Harry is black. He thought she was just another person. And if he had tweeted that picture about any other royal lady, it would have been no problem.

But Meghan isn't "any other royal lady". She is black. First and foremost, she is black. Yes, she has other attributes, including being a woman, a princess, and a mother, but first and foremost she is black, and this needs to be at the forefront of every broadcaster's mind when making jokes about her or any other black person. You can't treat them differently from white people, because that would be racist. You can't treat them the same, eiterh, because that is racist too. Better not to mention them - treat black people as if they didn't exist. It isn't tactful to make jokes.

Obviously Baker didn't deliberately make a "black people look like chimpanzees" "joke". He couldn't be that stupid. He made a "royal babies are inbred" joke, forgetting that one of the royal parents has black heritage.
I've no idea about Baker and his knowledge of Meghan and his intent but ignoring that aspect of the debate your middle paragraph where you lecture us around how everything is too focused on her race and how society has to walk on eggshells around this subject misses a crucial thing

Meghan being black has already been made an issue over her other attributes by the attacks by the gutter press media and on social media in general. Had Meghan not received continuous racial abuse for being a black person daring to marry into out Royal family then it would be a different matter

You actually may have a point and had there been no previous issues with her race and a cartoon like this was posted with just the intent to ridicule the interbreeding of the Royal family then its likely some people would have still jumped on it as a race issue.

The reality is however she has faced abuse and it is not the so called left or "PC Brigade" who have made her race the focal point of her many attributes over the past few years
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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by deanothedino » Fri May 10, 2019 9:07 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: Some might wish the BBC had reacted as quickly in the removing of paedophiles off their payroll rather than turning a blind eye to it for decades.
I'm sure in this day and age they would be as quick to remove them.

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by Falcon » Fri May 10, 2019 9:50 am

I think some people are so intent on pushing their "it's PC gone mad" agenda (and their anti-BBC agenda of course) that they fail to see when actually someone has done something stupid and posted something that will be construed as racist by the vast majority of people (resident nutters on here excepted), and has quite rightfully, been punished by their employer.

Luckily the UTC messageboard (where the right wing trolls seem to shout loudest) is not the same as wider society (everyone I've spoken to in my 20 strong office agrees he's been a silly boy and deserves what he has got).

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by RingoMcCartney » Fri May 10, 2019 10:34 am

Getting sacked by the BBC for spouting biased bigoted garbage. Who does Baker think he is?








James O'Brian!?
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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by AndyClaret » Fri May 10, 2019 10:53 am

RingoMcCartney wrote:Getting sacked by the BBC for spouting biased bigoted garbage. Who does Baker think he is?
James O'Brian!?
Obigot spouts more bile in his opening monologue than what baker tweeted.







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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by Burnley Ace » Fri May 10, 2019 11:02 am

RingoMcCartney wrote:Getting sacked by the BBC for spouting biased bigoted garbage. Who does Baker think he is?
James O'Brian!?
Who doesn’t work for the BBC. Analogies aren’t your strong point!

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by RingoMcCartney » Fri May 10, 2019 11:18 am

Burnley Ace wrote:Who doesn’t work for the BBC. Analogies aren’t your strong point!
He no longer works for the BBC because he was "let go" from presenting BBC's Newsnight.

Knowing what day it isn't , your strong point.....
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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri May 10, 2019 11:23 am

His explanation on twitter is pretty fair, and he's realised what he's done, and he accepts that he's in the wrong.

Some on here could try that occasionally!
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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by Burnley Ace » Fri May 10, 2019 11:25 am

dsr wrote:Obviously Baker didn't deliberately make a "black people look like chimpanzees" "joke". He couldn't be that stupid. He made a "royal babies are inbred" joke, forgetting that one of the royal parents has black heritage.
How is that a royal babies are inbred joke? Regardless, his explanation was that it was a joke about class. You don’t have to be an inveterate racist to do an act that is considered to be racist. A racist incident is any “that is perceived to be racist by the victim or any other

Given the circumstances, posting a picture of a chimp portraying a mixed race child, many people, including Baker, recognise the offence it has caused and the reason why. Has he forgotten the furore surrounding Kelvin Mackenzie comparing Ross Barkley to a gorilla (he was sacked by the Sun)

He may have been unaware that it was Meghans baby and he may have been unaware of her heritage even so it was a spiteful joke.

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by RingoMcCartney » Fri May 10, 2019 11:27 am

AndyClaret wrote:Obigot spouts more bile in his opening monologue than what baker tweeted.







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Fortunately Andy, I no longer have the need to put myself thru another one of his grinding, sometimes 30 minute, self-aggrandizement fests.

It's usually Talk Radio all the way now. Mike Graham is entertaining and covers more ground in 10 minutes than obrain does all morning. His interest in football is genuine. Unlike the plastic Kidderminster Kid and his faux interest in working class pursuits.


Google "LBC. Londons Biggest Cant" (misspelt for decency!)

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Re: Danny Baker sacked

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri May 10, 2019 11:36 am

What Mike Grahams listening figures compared to JOB?

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