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Question ??

Post by middleton claret » Thu May 09, 2019 9:12 pm

Going back to the Liverpool v Barca game & the quick corner routine from Trent Alexander Arnold.Did the referee blow for the corner to be taken ? or does he not have to ?. I know if it's a free kick outside the box the ref would normally hold his whistle in one hand whilst pointing to it with his other - Obviously indicating wait for the whistle. Did I miss something or am I just being thick in this instance.

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Re: Question ??

Post by jdrobbo » Thu May 09, 2019 9:16 pm

No whistle required at corners. Crack on when you’re ready I think.

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Re: Question ??

Post by Sutton-Claret » Thu May 09, 2019 9:36 pm

I think once the linesman's happy the ball is inside the quadrant it can be taken.

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Re: Question ??

Post by ElectroClaret » Thu May 09, 2019 9:41 pm

Barca were basically asleep and got ambushed.
Unforgiveable at that level.

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Re: Question ??

Post by Foulthrow » Thu May 09, 2019 9:43 pm

I assume the other ball had gone out?

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Post by dushanbe » Thu May 09, 2019 10:24 pm

It was noted by the Liverpool coaching staff in several previous games that Barcelona had a tendency to switch off at set pieces. This was often as a result of arguing the toss about every decision rather than taking up a defensive shape. The fact that this weakness was so dramatically exploited must have been so pleasing

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Post by Dyched » Thu May 09, 2019 10:25 pm

Foulthrow wrote:I assume the other ball had gone out?
Yeah. There’s a good camera angle from behind the linesman looking towards the box.

The ball goes out and TAA is walking away from the other when suddenly he turns and kicks it Origi has is back to it. His reactions to score are incredible
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Re: Question ??

Post by conyoviejo » Thu May 09, 2019 10:56 pm

The balboy was the hero..

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Re: Question ??

Post by chipbutty » Fri May 10, 2019 12:08 am

ElectroClaret wrote:Barca were basically asleep and got ambushed.
Unforgiveable at that level.
Since when did a player last put a ball in the uadrant?

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Re: Question ??

Post by thatdberight » Fri May 10, 2019 12:12 am

chipbutty wrote:Since when did a player last put a ball in the uadrant?
ue?

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Post by dsr » Fri May 10, 2019 6:34 am

chipbutty wrote:Since when did a player last put a ball in the uadrant?
Is that a dig at the rule change six or eight years ago that said the ball only has to overhang the outside edge of the white line?

As for referee's whistle, it's the same rule (I think) for corners as it is for throws. Which may mean that technically he has to signal - not necessarily by whistle - but in practice, he doesn't. It's not like a free kick where there may be doubt about whether the ball is in the right place, so barring injury the defence has no reason not to be ready when the ball is in place.

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Post by thatdberight » Fri May 10, 2019 8:14 am

dsr wrote:Is that a dig at the rule change six or eight years ago that said the ball only has to overhang the outside edge of the white line?
I don't believe there was a law change. It just became all the rage to take them that way.
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Post by Hipper » Fri May 10, 2019 1:57 pm

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scroll down to page 196 - Body Language, Communication and Whistle.

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Re: Question ??

Post by turfytopper » Fri May 10, 2019 8:01 pm

The purpose of the whistle in law is to stop play.. Not start play.

We are familiar with the ref blowing at a ko and to start play at a free kick but only where he has given an instruction for the kicker to wait for a whistle.... Refs tend to blow for a corner if it isn't obvious... But never for a goal kick. The white line painting has led to a decrease in quick 'no whistle' free kicks. Making game management for the ref easier but the game slower. It's over use is my pet hate.

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Re: Question ??

Post by turfytopper » Fri May 10, 2019 8:06 pm

thatdberight wrote:I don't believe there was a law change. It just became all the rage to take them that way.
No law change.... If you look over the top of the ball and part of it overhangs the arc then it's good.... Visibly you could still see grass between ball where it touches the ground and the arc... But that could still be legal.

I reckon you're spot on.... Players years ago thought the ball had to be inside the arc.. It's the fashion now to push it out from the CF.

Difficult to check where the nearest linesman is 50 metres away...

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Re: Question ??

Post by thatdberight » Fri May 10, 2019 8:10 pm

turfytopper wrote:No law change.... If you look over the top of the ball and part of it overhangs the arc then it's good.... Visibly you could still see grass between ball where it touches the ground and the arc... But that could still be legal

Difficult to check where the nearest linesman is 50 metres away...
The best corner law change was 1997 when, in a fit of "everything important is done, what else is on the list?", they clarified that you can't score an own goal direct from a corner. They must have been paid per law change that year.
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Re: Question ??

Post by chipbutty » Sat May 11, 2019 12:13 am

thatdberight wrote:ue?
For some reason my "" doesn`t work on my laptop! #cue
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