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Move Euro finals to England?

Postby FactualFrank » Fri May 10, 2019 9:29 am

I've heard on the radio/tv that some people think because all finalists are from the Prem, the finals for the Champs League & Europa League should be moved to grounds such as Old Trafford and Wembley.

What do you think?

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby ZizkovClaret » Fri May 10, 2019 9:35 am

Nonsense
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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby thatdberight » Fri May 10, 2019 9:38 am

Sounds like the sort of garbage not-really-an-idea that Talk Sport would pay two cockney presenters to argue about after they'd flipped a coin to see which one passionately believed which side of the argument.
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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby theroyaldyche » Fri May 10, 2019 9:40 am

Thats why they are all pricks

The glamour of getting to the final means it needs to be hosted in an amazing setting at a neutral ground. Whats better than going to Baku?

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby bobinho » Fri May 10, 2019 9:46 am

More important issues with these competitions than location of the final, starting with ticketing.

Absolutely disgracefully obscene that when a stadium that can hold 60,000 + the governing body of the competition can only provide circa 6000 tickets for proper fans of the teams playing.
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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby Falcon » Fri May 10, 2019 11:08 am

No direct flights from London to Baku in the week of the final. Marvellous planning there.

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby Clarets4me » Fri May 10, 2019 11:19 am

theroyaldyche wrote:Thats why they are all pricks .... The glamour of getting to the final means it needs to be hosted in an amazing setting at a neutral ground. Whats better than going to Baku?


Having been, I barely know where to start .... Sheffield ?

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby Dyched » Fri May 10, 2019 11:23 am

Falcon wrote:No direct flights from London to Baku in the week of the final. Marvellous planning there.


How can UEFA plan for that?

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby Socrates » Fri May 10, 2019 11:27 am

Absolute Brexit suggestion
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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby bobinho » Fri May 10, 2019 11:30 am

Dyched wrote:How can UEFA plan for that?


Research

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby Rick_Muller » Fri May 10, 2019 11:34 am

Clarets4me wrote:Having been, I barely know where to start .... Sheffield ?

Aren't Stanley developing their ground...? its a better option... ;)

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby Clarets4me » Fri May 10, 2019 11:40 am

Socrates wrote:Absolute Brexit suggestion


If anything, it should be a Green Party suggestion ! Think of the Co2 emissions etc ...... it should be a Labour Party suggestion, to allow more of the true working class fans to see the game live at a cheaper cost ! It should be a Conservative Party suggestion to encourage a boost to the local economy and keep the spending in the UK !! The SNP will be stumped with the European finals, because there's no non English team they can support, to demonstrate their anti-Englishness, " ChangeUK " would be too busy talking about it and setting up Committee's to decide what policy they have, and the Lib-Dem's will go on a demonstation, three weeks after the final's asking for two replays, because they don't like the results !!
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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby ZizkovClaret » Fri May 10, 2019 11:42 am

So say next year hypothetically Wembley has the final, but the two finalists are Inter and Napoli. Do we happily let Juve's ground in Torino host it instead? Would we balls
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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby Blackrod » Fri May 10, 2019 11:45 am

It’s a European competition to be enjoyed by Europe so they should’ve prepared to travel to the host city anywhere in Europe. Not sure Baku is in Europe though. The ticket allocations to the clubs are pitiful though. Not sure UEFA has anything control over airport landing spots. There is probably not much demand for a London toBaku direct flight. Maybe there will be after this final if it’s a nice city.

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby hampsteadclaret » Fri May 10, 2019 11:58 am

Surely UEFA could plan for this better each season by nominating six potential/ possible grounds/ locations for each competition at the start of the football season... the 6 would have to agree of course to being on ‘standby.
These stadiums would then be used for the 2 finals, depending on which teams get there. You then choose the locations based on sensible geographical planning.

This would cut down massively on air miles, football fan expense and even the odds of having an air accident.

With regard to this year’s finalists where would be the best locations for the two games, now we know who would be playing ?

( Madrid isn’t too bad, it’s certainly a football city but I would rule out Baku)

- Denmark, Sweden, Belgium, Holland, Switzerland, Austria France and probably Dublin ( and others) present excellent opportunities for staging major Euro finals when the finalists are all from England.

Next year would likely be very different of course.

I’m not convinced that UEFA would go along with this sort of stuff though.

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby Dyched » Fri May 10, 2019 12:08 pm

What about all the local businesses having 5/6 locations on standby? They’ll profit hugely off staging a Europen final. How can bars/pubs/cafe/restaurants/hotels plan when they don’t know if the final is there or not?

The final is just under 3 weeks away. I’m sorry Baku but the final is now in London. All that extra produce you’ve ordered is not needed.

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby JohnMac » Fri May 10, 2019 12:10 pm

To be fair it should never be moved unless for emergency reasons such as earthquakes.

I did hear that Mkhitaryan has a problem as the hosts do not acknowledge Armenia as a nation. I thought politics wasn't allowed in the EUFA mandate.

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby thatdberight » Fri May 10, 2019 12:22 pm

JohnMac wrote:To be fair it should never be moved unless for emergency reasons such as earthquakes.

I did hear that Mkhitaryan has a problem as the hosts do not acknowledge Armenia as a nation. I thought politics wasn't allowed in the EUFA mandate.


For previous sporting events, the Azerbaijani government has allowed Armenian sportspeople in. If Mkhitaryan chooses not to go, that's a different matter.

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby ZizkovClaret » Fri May 10, 2019 12:22 pm

What they should do is book out Wembley and have the worlds biggest double sided LED screen with 50/50 split of tickets and do a beam back on that

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby claretonthecoast1882 » Fri May 10, 2019 12:24 pm

If Burnley got to a European final last place on earth I would want it would be England
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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby SalisburyClaret » Fri May 10, 2019 12:41 pm

Given Azarbaijans long history of hosting major football matches and it’s excellent transport links, there can be only one reason why it was chosen for the final...
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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby SGr » Fri May 10, 2019 12:44 pm

Real and Atletico played a finals in Lisbon 2014, and then in Milan 2016.

There is literally no argument to be made.

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby Dyched » Fri May 10, 2019 12:47 pm

SGr wrote:Real and Atletico played a finals in Lisbon 2014, and then in Milan 2016.

There is literally no argument to be made.


Yep, happened plenty of times. Milan/Juve in Manchester, dortmund/munich in london, Man U/Chelsea in Moscow

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby turfytopper » Fri May 10, 2019 2:02 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I've heard on the radio/tv that some people think because all finalists are from the Prem, the finals for the Champs League & Europa League should be moved to grounds such as Old Trafford and Wembley.

What do you think?


Can't happen. Contracts in place, arrangements made.

Mind you, I'd question the staging of a European competition final, outside of Europe in an oil rich Asian country?

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby edison » Fri May 10, 2019 3:53 pm

i stopped at "some people think"

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby ElectroClaret » Fri May 10, 2019 4:07 pm

turfytopper wrote:
Mind you, I'd question the staging of a European competition final, outside of Europe in an oil rich Asian country?


If you're referring to Azerbaijan, its in the southern Caucasus, which is in Europe.
(Although this is often disputed and referred to as Eurasia.)
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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby box_of_frogs » Fri May 10, 2019 6:48 pm

File this one under ‘pointless threads’.

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby Vegas Claret » Fri May 10, 2019 6:52 pm

best thing that could happen would be Arsenal and Chelsea fans doing a complete boycott. UEFA pay no attention to supporters at all, it's all about expanding their brand. HOW THE **** you can have a major final in a place that doesn't have the adequate transport inks is beyond belief

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby Bosscat » Fri May 10, 2019 7:00 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:best thing that could happen would be Arsenal and Chelsea fans doing a complete boycott. UEFA pay no attention to supporters at all, it's all about expanding their brand. HOW THE **** you can have a major final in a place that doesn't have the adequate transport inks is beyond belief

How could they predict the finalists when this venue was decided....
UEFA spread the finals around Europe (assuming the host City has a Stadium worthy)
2020 is in Gdansk
2021 is between Tbilisi and Valencia who are currently bidding for it.
Finals venues are decided up to 2 years in advance...

If anyone fancies Baku details are here
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&sourc ... 7213137186

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby Vegas Claret » Fri May 10, 2019 7:30 pm

Bosscat wrote:How could they predict the finalists when this venue was decided....
UEFA spread the finals around Europe (assuming the host City has a Stadium worthy)
2020 is in Gdansk
2021 is between Tbilisi and Valencia who are currently bidding for it.
Finals venues are decided up to 2 years in advance...

If anyone fancies Baku details are here
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&sourc ... 7213137186


nothing to do whatsoever with the finalists - why chose a place where the transportation system is substandard in terms of direct flights from most of Europe ?

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby thatdberight » Fri May 10, 2019 8:00 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:nothing to do whatsoever with the finalists - why chose a place where the transportation system is substandard in terms of direct flights from most of Europe ?


Because it's not UEFA's job to hold the final in Germany every year.

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby John Johnson 1605 » Fri May 10, 2019 8:11 pm

Anyone who seriously advocates this view needs committing.
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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby Vegas Claret » Fri May 10, 2019 8:21 pm

thatdberight wrote:Because it's not UEFA's job to hold the final in Germany every year.


it's UEFA's job to choose a venue that fans can get to and also choose a safe venue - they've failed completely.

**** loads of better options they could choose and they haven't because of the money. Got **** all to do with Germany

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby thatdberight » Fri May 10, 2019 8:21 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:it's UEFA's job to choose a venue that fans can get to and also choose a safe venue - they've failed completely.

**** loads of better options they could choose and they haven't because of the money. Got **** all to do with Germany


Why's it not safe?

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby box_of_frogs » Fri May 10, 2019 8:24 pm

thatdberight wrote:Why's it not safe?

Exactly. Absolutely chuff all wrong with Baku’s safety.

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby Vegas Claret » Fri May 10, 2019 8:28 pm

thatdberight wrote:Why's it not safe?


I read an article this morning about a warning being issued regarding expected terror attacks, can I find the article now ? no. Leave it with me, let me see if I can relocate it

It's a ridiculous choice of venue, even UEFA have come out today and said that due to the limited travel possibilities they are only wanting 15000 travelling fans maximum - seriously, tin pot

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby thatdberight » Fri May 10, 2019 8:38 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:I read an article this morning about a warning being issued regarding expected terror attacks, can I find the article now ? no. Leave it with me, let me see if I can relocate it


Was it this?

>>>>>>

But chilling Government travel advice states that terrorists are "very likely" planning to target civilians with "indiscriminate" attacks.

Major events and transport hubs are high on jihadists' list of targets, Foreign And Commonwealth Office officials say.

The latest FCO guidance, published earlier this month, reads:
"Terrorists are very likely to try to carry out attacks. Attacks could be indiscriminate, including in public places visited by foreigners. The government has announced that increased security has been put in place as a precaution at public buildings, major events, transport hubs and large public gatherings."

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby Middle-agedClaret » Fri May 10, 2019 9:28 pm

Indiscriminate terrorist attacks? You mean like the one currently the subject of a coroner’s inquest in London? Better not hold a major sporting event there then,

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby box_of_frogs » Fri May 10, 2019 10:25 pm

So lower than the threat assessment for the UK then! :lol:

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby Cirrus_Minor » Fri May 10, 2019 10:54 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I've heard on the radio/tv that some people think because all finalists are from the Prem, the finals for the Champs League & Europa League should be moved to grounds such as Old Trafford and Wembley.

What do you think?


If it happens i will bare my @rse in Burtons window and UTCs can sell tickets for charity.

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby thatdberight » Fri May 10, 2019 11:13 pm

Cirrus_Minor wrote:If it happens i will bare my @rse in Burtons window and UTCs can sell tickets for charity.


You'd get more money setting up a crowd funding page for some curtains.

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby Vegas Claret » Sat May 11, 2019 2:23 am

thatdberight wrote:Was it this?

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But chilling Government travel advice states that terrorists are "very likely" planning to target civilians with "indiscriminate" attacks.

Major events and transport hubs are high on jihadists' list of targets, Foreign And Commonwealth Office officials say.

The latest FCO guidance, published earlier this month, reads:
"Terrorists are very likely to try to carry out attacks. Attacks could be indiscriminate, including in public places visited by foreigners. The government has announced that increased security has been put in place as a precaution at public buildings, major events, transport hubs and large public gatherings."


not in so many words but that was the gist of it, **** knows why I can't find the article, I was sure it was on the sky website

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby timshorts » Sat May 11, 2019 6:26 am

Baku doesn't seem to have a problem in hosting a formula 1 meeting every year without reports of jihadists and other safety issues.
It's also one of the best grand prix if not the best right now given that there is always a lot of overtaking, but I guess that bit is off topic.

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby box_of_frogs » Sat May 11, 2019 6:59 am

timshorts wrote:Baku doesn't seem to have a problem in hosting a formula 1 meeting every year without reports of jihadists and other safety issues.
It's also one of the best grand prix if not the best right now given that there is always a lot of overtaking, but I guess that bit is off topic.

Stop bringing facts into this pointless argument.
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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby wilks_bfc » Sat May 11, 2019 8:03 am

I wonder if the same discussion would be being had if Qarabağ FK had got to a final held at Wembley
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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby Joe14 » Sat May 11, 2019 8:32 am

Stupid idea.

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby Top Claret » Sat May 11, 2019 8:32 am

No thoughts gone into the logistics when eufa gave the finals to Baku. There should be flight Connections to all European cities, from a city that hosts a major event. Once again supporters have not been considered

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby taio » Sat May 11, 2019 8:35 am

Vegas Claret wrote:not in so many words but that was the gist of it, **** knows why I can't find the article, I was sure it was on the sky website


I would guess it was a journalist who was sensationlising and scaremongering using advice that relates to a totally different part of the country.

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby BurnleyPaul » Sat May 11, 2019 9:05 am

Apparently Arsenal are asking UEFA for written assurances about the safety of Henrikh Mkhitaryan.

Because of the conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia he is genuinely not safe to travel there. He, and those around him, are at risk.

What would happen I wonder if Arsenal are told that they will not be insured in case of something happening if they take Mkhitaryan with them? Would the English FA step in and then refuse to allow Arsenal to participate? Surely if it’s not safe for one player then it’s not safe for the rest?

Would Chelsea be willing to support Arsenal in this matter? What would happen if both finalists refuse to play because they’re not convinced about the safety of their players? That would be embarrassing for UEFA to have to deal with.

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Re: Move Euro finals to England?

Postby thatdberight » Sat May 11, 2019 9:23 am

Vegas Claret wrote:not in so many words but that was the gist of it, **** knows why I can't find the article, I was sure it was on the sky website


What I posted was about Germany not Azerbaijan.

Germany, for example, is rated "very likely" to suffer terrorist attacks. Azerbaijan is "likely".

That "story" - here's the Azerbaijan version, not sure why you can't find it - is sensationalist BS of the worst kind. The sort of places that ran it pretty much define the sort of people expected to believe it.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/9043334/ ... a-arsenal/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... -Baku.html
https://daddyhood.net/uefa-admit-why-ar ... 19555.html


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