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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by Hibsclaret » Sun May 12, 2019 10:24 am

Grumps wrote:I hated Coyle with a passion at the time he left, and on one occasion told him so face to face.
But to say that that promotion hasn't in some way helped us get to where we are now is just laughable
What did he say when you told him?

TBH I think it showed big balls for him to turn up last night. Given the video messages from other players he could have done that.. you have to give him kudos for turning up
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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by MACCA » Sun May 12, 2019 10:52 am

Steve1956 wrote:Good man :lol:
I am.

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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by Claret Till I Die » Sun May 12, 2019 10:57 am

My eldest is the same age as Owen Jnr and they regularly played football against each other up to around 7 years ago. Coyle was at one game a couple of years after he left and I went up to him and shook his hand saying thank you for giving me some of my favourite moments of being a Burnley fan. I also called him a tw*t the way he left us. I felt that gave me closure to his time here.

Just for the record I didn't stand and applaud him last night...
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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sun May 12, 2019 11:04 am

martin_p wrote:I think the difference between this and the first Dyche promotion season is that many of us were convinced we’d never ever see Burnley at the top level again. So the pure excitement and enjoyment of the Coyle promotion, for me, will never be equalled. It was so completely unbelievable and unexpected that the feeling could never be repeated in my opinion.

I’ve decided to get over Coyle. I’ve got such fantastic memories of that 12 months starting with the night at Stamford Bridge, but they were always clouded by what happened after. Life’s too short, I’ve decided just to remember those good times and if I met Owen Coyle I’d shake his hand and tell him what a great time that was.
Indeed! It was a superb season and great times the video posted above in town after the Bristol City game shows it! The start of our rise to suggest otherwise is a bit churlish. Coyle won’t be the first human to lie or make a wrong decision.
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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by Grumps » Sun May 12, 2019 11:16 am

Hibsclaret wrote:What did he say when you told him?

TBH I think it showed big balls for him to turn up last night. Given the video messages from other players he could have done that.. you have to give him kudos for turning up
It was many years after he left, he just said that everyone was entitled to their opinion and walked off
Full credit to him turning up last night

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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by Jeremy_Bentham » Sun May 12, 2019 11:19 am

. thinks ClaretTony has had a nightmare on this thread.
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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by beddie » Sun May 12, 2019 11:47 am

Leisure. Thank you for that, shame the others couldn't make it. Also thumbs up for details of the PSA testing, I'll try and get over.
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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by Lord Beamish » Sun May 12, 2019 11:56 am

He’s gone up in my estimation for actually turning up. As was said above, he could have hit the chicken switch and videoed it in.
I’ve said it before and it bears repeating; his time at Burnley was the high water mark of his managerial career. I now think he’s starting to realise that.

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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun May 12, 2019 11:59 am

Lord Beamish wrote:He’s gone up in my estimation for actually turning up. As was said above, he could have hit the chicken switch and videoed it in.
Looking at him these days I don’t think he turns free meals down.
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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by morpheus2 » Sun May 12, 2019 12:08 pm

As of today I have totally forgiven him, his near 10 year sentence of hatred is over and in that time he has had a lot of karma kick him up the arse - his beloved Bolton the crowning turd in the shitpipe.

Thank you Owen for the best season of football, most enjoyable beautiful and exciting football, instilling the players and fans with belief......however you managed it - some say it was luck - I don't care, thank you for the memories...I don't care what anyone says, we are where we are in no small part thanks to you...so I thank you.

Now, onwards and upwards!

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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun May 12, 2019 12:20 pm

To anyone who thinks we arent where we are in part to that season is crackers. All you have to do is look at the ten years before and ten years since!
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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by aggi » Sun May 12, 2019 12:28 pm

mdd2 wrote:On the finance side and this is not a criticism of the Board but I think quite a tranche of the Premier league money went to those who had loaned money to the club and had that repayment been delayed then we may have been able to put out a better team in 2009-10 and stayed up. On the other hand despite delaying repayment had we not survived those loans may never have been repaid.
We didn't have much choice for part of it. Modus, Flood's company, went into administration and they called in their debts, including a hefty loan to BFC.

If we hadn't gone up it would have required us to repay a £3m+ loan whilst making losses with a turnover of about £9m. It would have required the other directors to pay it off or we'd have gone into administration.

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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by elwaclaret » Sun May 12, 2019 1:34 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I do know that we had to borrow to sign Austin half way through the season after relegation.
For my ten penneth, I remember just wishing he’d gone a few weeks earlier. It was taking the back room that upset me. We had been found out by Christmas and I couldn’t see Coyle turning it around... as his career ultimately from there on proved.

I have respect for all our ex-managers, and happy memories of the Play offs but he was no Dyche and ultimately did us a favour as time has proved. He’ll never be a favourite but my anger has been replaced with a knowing smile, he got his. Time to move on.

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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by KRBFC » Sun May 12, 2019 4:02 pm

scouseclaret wrote:I think that season was probably the most exciting. It seemed like every game we played from about March onwards was “must win” - I was a nervous wreck by the next of it.

I wouldn’t agree about it being the best football I’ve ever seen us play though - that was played by the Championship side under Dyche. They’d have wiped the floor with Coyle’s side.
Dyche had a considerably better side than Coyle, funnily enough, Dyche's better side was built with money from Coyle's success. Lets be honest, a Dyche side isn't wiping the floor with anyone.

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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by Socrates » Sun May 12, 2019 4:13 pm

All these people claiming they knew at the time that Coyle couldn’t turn it round ......

Incredible football knowledge.

After the 12 months he’d given us you didn’t think he was capable of pretty much anything? I’m not having that at all.
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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by joey13 » Sun May 12, 2019 4:15 pm

KRBFC wrote:Dyche had a considerably better side than Coyle, funnily enough, Dyche's better side was built with money from Coyle's success. Lets be honest, a Dyche side isn't wiping the floor with anyone.
Dyches better side wasn’t built with money from Coyles success, don’t be silly.

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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by KRBFC » Sun May 12, 2019 4:54 pm

joey13 wrote:Dyches better side wasn’t built with money from Coyles success, don’t be silly.
I thought he was on about the first Dyche side

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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by MACCA » Sun May 12, 2019 5:20 pm

One of the, if not the best season in 40 years watching Burnley

The reason he got a hand shake from me , and once the ice was broken many others followed suit.

He was a massive part of our history... thank you Owen
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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by Rumbletonk » Sun May 12, 2019 5:47 pm

KRBFC wrote:Of course you won't ever accept it, you will claim black is white to stick the boot into Howe/Coyle/Jensen and whoever else you've taken a dislike too.
Unbelievable hypocritical gash. No one drills Dych and the club like you whatever they do.

He sucked us in with lies about loyalty and building something special then turned us over for a local rival at a critical time in the season.

I don't hate him or feel bitter but neither do I want to do the conga with him. He lied and let us down. He won't lose any sleep over it but I have no respect for the man

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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by Oshkoshclaret » Sun May 12, 2019 5:51 pm

The official Burnley Twitter feed noted the reception for Coyle last night as "Proper Burnley".

For me, "Proper Burnley" involves values of loyalty, honesty and integrity, none of which could ever be associated with the Lying Scotsman.

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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Sun May 12, 2019 5:55 pm

I’ve not waded into this thread with multiple posts, because I genuinely don’t have any emotion regarding it now, but as for the forgiveness / standing and applauding - generally in life, ranging from a simple argument to a major crime, the time we show forgiveness is when the guilty party shows remorse.

As far as I am aware, Coyle has never shown any remorse, never admitted he was wrong to go.

It was after all unprecedented in top flight football in England, and it was what seemed at the time to be our one shot at the big time. So it was a massive stab in the back, but if he showed remorse, forgiveness was possible. But, as yet, he hasn’t.
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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by Hibsclaret » Sun May 12, 2019 5:56 pm

Rumbletonk wrote:Unbelievable hypocritical gash. No one drills Dych and the club like you whatever they do.

He sucked us in with lies about loyalty and building something special then turned us over for a local rival at a critical time in the season.

I don't hate him or feel bitter but neither do I want to do the conga with him. He lied and let us down. He won't lose any sleep over it but I have no respect for the man
If he fancied a conga would that make Coyle a conga eel given how slippery everyone seems to think he is

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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by Oshkoshclaret » Sun May 12, 2019 6:14 pm

Bingo. Reconciliation begins with truth.
CrosspoolClarets wrote:I’ve not waded into this thread with multiple posts, because I genuinely don’t have any emotion regarding it now, but as for the forgiveness / standing and applauding - generally in life, ranging from a simple argument to a major crime, the time we show forgiveness is when the guilty party shows remorse.

As far as I am aware, Coyle has never shown any remorse, never admitted he was wrong to go.

It was after all unprecedented in top flight football in England, and it was what seemed at the time to be our one shot at the big time. So it was a massive stab in the back, but if he showed remorse, forgiveness was possible. But, as yet, he hasn’t.

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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by KRBFC » Sun May 12, 2019 7:06 pm

Rumbletonk wrote:Unbelievable hypocritical gash. No one drills Dych and the club like you whatever they do.

He sucked us in with lies about loyalty and building something special then turned us over for a local rival at a critical time in the season.

I don't hate him or feel bitter but neither do I want to do the conga with him. He lied and let us down. He won't lose any sleep over it but I have no respect for the man
Not hypocritical though, I've praised Dyche and slated him, both ways. I simply say as I see, non of this blind agenda driven nonsense.

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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun May 12, 2019 7:10 pm

only 1 ex manager I'd stand for - Mullen
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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by Goody1975 » Sun May 12, 2019 7:51 pm

Polite applause as to not lower the tone of the evening but getting off my seat to give him a standing ovation, no ******* chance.

Each to their own and who am i to tell others how to react.

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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by MACCA » Sun May 12, 2019 7:57 pm

Goody1975 wrote:Polite applause as to not lower the tone of the evening but getting off my seat to give him a standing ovation, no ******* chance.

Each to their own and who am i to tell others how to react.

I couldn't get enough of him.

What a guy, I presume all the haters haven't witness the dross under dyche

Best season of FOOTBALL for 30 years

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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by Claret Till I Die » Sun May 12, 2019 8:47 pm

Was this the standing ovation that happened after the people on the tables in the middle were instructed to stand up and applaud?

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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by Leisure » Sun May 12, 2019 8:57 pm

Claret Till I Die wrote:Was this the standing ovation that happened after the people on the tables in the middle were instructed to stand up and applaud?
Don't think so as we were in the wings and all around us stood and applauded.
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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by TVC15 » Sun May 12, 2019 9:18 pm

MACCA wrote:I couldn't get enough of him.

What a guy, I presume all the haters haven't witness the dross under dyche

Best season of FOOTBALL for 30 years
Aye - all that dross when we won a lot more games and came first and second under Dyche. It was terrible seeing us get 20 plus more points than under Coyle.

Both of the Dyche promotion sides would have leathered Coyle’s team.

Don’t get me wrong i enjoyed our one season in the sun under Coyle before he started making plans to line his own pockets and put himself in front of the team - which is pretty much what he has done in every subsequent job he dismally failed at.
Funnily enough though I much prefer 7 years of sustained success under Dyche than one year under horseface.
Eh but if you want to spend your Saturday and Sunday’s watching reruns of the 2009 play off final rather than watch the “Dyche dross” feel free - club would be better off without you there.
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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun May 12, 2019 9:28 pm

TVC15 wrote:Aye - all that dross when we won a lot more games and came first and second under Dyche. It was terrible seeing us get 20 plus more points than under Coyle.

Both of the Dyche promotion sides would have leathered Coyle’s team.

Don’t get me wrong i enjoyed our one season in the sun under Coyle before he started making plans to line his own pockets and put himself in front of the team - which is pretty much what he has done in every subsequent job he dismally failed at.
Funnily enough though I much prefer 7 years of sustained success under Dyche than one year under horseface.
Eh but if you want to spend your Saturday and Sunday’s watching reruns of the 2009 play off final rather than watch the “Dyche dross” feel free - club would be better off without you there.
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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by Claret Till I Die » Sun May 12, 2019 9:33 pm

Leisure wrote:Don't think so as we were in the wings and all around us stood and applauded.
Just what I was told today

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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by Venkys4eva » Sun May 12, 2019 9:51 pm

Fantastic to see! Glad Owen Coyle attended its 10 years and time to move on. The promotion season under Coyle was amazing and that was mainly due to the fact that it was so unexpected. If it wasn’t for that season we’d be in the championship now.
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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by cav » Sun May 12, 2019 9:57 pm

KRBFC wrote:Dyche had a considerably better side than Coyle, funnily enough, Dyche's better side was built with money from Coyle's success. Lets be honest, a Dyche side isn't wiping the floor with anyone.
Dyche’s squad has nothing to do with the money made from Coyle’s promotion to the Premier League. Sean Dyche has said on many occasions that when he first met with the board he was told the money from the 09/10 season had all gone.

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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by TVC15 » Sun May 12, 2019 10:17 pm

KRBFC wrote:Dyche had a considerably better side than Coyle, funnily enough, Dyche's better side was built with money from Coyle's success. Lets be honest, a Dyche side isn't wiping the floor with anyone.
Why do you carry on talking utter sh-ite ?
Which of Dyche’s signings did Coyle fund ?
Was it the free transfers of Arfield, Heaton Ward and Jones. Or was it the money he got from having to sell Austin which he used to buy Barnes for 500k ?

Coyle got more money to spend than Dyche in his first season.

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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by Goody1975 » Sun May 12, 2019 10:28 pm

cav wrote:Dyche’s squad has nothing to do with the money made from Coyle’s promotion to the Premier League. Sean Dyche has said on many occasions that when he first met with the board he was told the money from the 09/10 season had all gone.
Both the automatic promotion sides under Dyche would destroy our 2008/09 side, the first one had a front two that won us game after game and the second one after Christmas was an absolute machine.

Coyle's team was a good one off team and that's why they excelled in the cups but if they played ten times, the Dyche sides win at least seven of them.

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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by Indecisive » Sun May 12, 2019 11:06 pm

He’s not worth the energy of a clap, or a boo.

The way he walked to the Burnley fans to applaud us at the Reebok, knowing the response he’d get. It showed what an attention seeking publicity whore he was.

The kind of guy he is, I expect the reaction he would have least liked at the Turf the other day would have been one of total indifference. That’s what he would have received from me.
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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by Rumbletonk » Sun May 12, 2019 11:34 pm

KRBFC wrote:Not hypocritical though, I've praised Dyche and slated him, both ways. I simply say as I see, non of this blind agenda driven nonsense.
When we lose everyone is ****** off. When we lose you **** everyone off. Weak

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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by chipbutty » Mon May 13, 2019 12:42 am

ClaretTony wrote:It's not hatred but I wouldn't want anything to do with him at all and there are people in very high places within our club who have exactly the same opinion. I'm told he was close to being sued a couple of years ago for comments he made on Sky which were nothing short of downright lies.

Sorry, but I can't and won't have anything to do with the lying, scheming Coyle and I still find it ridiculous that people are giving him any credit for where we are now.
So, Basically, it`s your view or no view?
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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by KRBFC » Mon May 13, 2019 3:40 am

TVC15 wrote:Why do you carry on talking utter sh-ite ?
Which of Dyche’s signings did Coyle fund ?
Was it the free transfers of Arfield, Heaton Ward and Jones. Or was it the money he got from having to sell Austin which he used to buy Barnes for 500k ?

Coyle got more money to spend than Dyche in his first season.
I didn't say any of Dyche's signings were funded by the money Coyle brought in, I said the side was built on Coyle money, which it mainly was. We didn't have Ward during the first promotion season, we had Duff and Shackell in the centre with Mee at left back. I'm pretty sure Barnes was brought in during January, we sold Austin in the summer.

My point was, 90% of the side was built with the money generated by the Coyle promotion, nearly all of it was Laws and Howe signings. With the sale of Austin (another Howe signing) before the season started, you could actually say we sold him to help fund the arrivals of Heaton (free) Jones (free) Kightly (loan) Arfield (free), would we have been able to bring those 4 in without the sale of Austin? I'm not sure.

You can't say i'm talking sh-ite, then in the follow up question put words into my mouth which I never said whilst showing you missed the actual point I was making, that's not how it works. I'm not actually sure why you got so defensive in the first place, it wasn't a pop at Dyche, more a comparison between the two Burnley teams and the level of player both had available. Dyche added tremendously to a better team (than Coyle had) with peanuts and got us promoted.
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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by KRBFC » Mon May 13, 2019 3:45 am

cav wrote:Dyche’s squad has nothing to do with the money made from Coyle’s promotion to the Premier League. Sean Dyche has said on many occasions that when he first met with the board he was told the money from the 09/10 season had all gone.
So where did Marney, Mee, Trippier, Ings, Vokes, Wallace, Treacy, Shackell, Stanislas all come from then? That's where the PL money had gone, on Howe/Laws signings which Dyche moulded into a promotion side.....
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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by MACCA » Mon May 13, 2019 6:29 am

TVC15 wrote:Aye - all that dross when we won a lot more games and came first and second under Dyche. It was terrible seeing us get 20 plus more points than under Coyle.

Both of the Dyche promotion sides would have leathered Coyle’s team.

Don’t get me wrong i enjoyed our one season in the sun under Coyle before he started making plans to line his own pockets and put himself in front of the team - which is pretty much what he has done in every subsequent job he dismally failed at.
Funnily enough though I much prefer 7 years of sustained success under Dyche than one year under horseface.
Eh but if you want to spend your Saturday and Sunday’s watching reruns of the 2009 play off final rather than watch the “Dyche dross” feel free - club would be better off without you there.

When you read something, does it not register?

You seem to go on a hell of ramble about things and get your knickers in a right twist.

I'm not going to respond to the post as half of it is irrelevant, most of it is just made up nonsense, and your last point is laughable.

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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by martin_p » Mon May 13, 2019 8:47 am

cav wrote:Dyche’s squad has nothing to do with the money made from Coyle’s promotion to the Premier League. Sean Dyche has said on many occasions that when he first met with the board he was told the money from the 09/10 season had all gone.
I think it’s a difficult argument to make that if we hadn’t had a season in the Premier League in 09/10 that in 2012 when Dyche arrived we’d have had the quality of players he managed to mould into a promotion side. Dyche may not have seen any of the Premier League money but he got a squad of players largely funded by that money. Whatever your thoughts on Owen Coyle I genuinely believe we wouldn’t be where we are now without his one good season.

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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by Grumps » Mon May 13, 2019 8:48 am

MACCA wrote:When you read something, does it not register?

You seem to go on a hell of ramble about things and get your knickers in a right twist.

I'm not going to respond to the post as half of it is irrelevant, most of it is just made up nonsense, and your last point is laughable.
But you have responded!

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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by Blackrod » Mon May 13, 2019 9:05 am

As noted above Howe’s signings ( and I’m not a fan of Howe) have more to do with where we find ourselves now.
The 2009 season was great and it was superb at Wembley. Coyle could have been a legend here even after his downward spiral of a career. He is divisive so will never have this status now. Yes he did a good job but it’s the manner he left and the lies that leave a bitter taste. I don’t think anyone spends too much time thinking about him but it is possible to acknowledge what a great season it was without having to be keen on the man. Whilst it did give the town a lift and the fans belief the finances did not pave the way for now at all as some acknowledge.

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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by aggi » Mon May 13, 2019 9:32 am

Blackrod wrote:As noted above Howe’s signings ( and I’m not a fan of Howe) have more to do with where we find ourselves now.
The 2009 season was great and it was superb at Wembley. Coyle could have been a legend here even after his downward spiral of a career. He is divisive so will never have this status now. Yes he did a good job but it’s the manner he left and the lies that leave a bitter taste. I don’t think anyone spends too much time thinking about him but it is possible to acknowledge what a great season it was without having to be keen on the man. Whilst it did give the town a lift and the fans belief the finances did not pave the way for now at all as some acknowledge.
How do you think Howe had the money to make those signings?

If we hadn't gone up we'd have been under a transfer embargo, loss making and trying to pay back a £3m loan on turnover of £9m per year.

Would we really have been signing players like Marney, Shackell, Ings, Vokes, etc in that scenario?
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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by 2 Bee Holed » Mon May 13, 2019 10:53 am

Judas was talking to Celtic within hours of the final whistle at Wembley.
That pains me as much as the manner of the final departure.
Yep 10 years have passed, would I stand and applaud him? Never.
Would I like to tell him to his face, what I thought of him? Yes!
Will I let it all ruin my life? NO.

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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by Cheshire Exile » Mon May 13, 2019 10:53 am

On the finance side and this is not a criticism of the Board but I think quite a tranche of the Premier league money went to those who had loaned money to the club and had that repayment been delayed then we may have been able to put out a better team in 2009-10 and stayed up. On the other hand despite delaying repayment had we not survived those loans may never have been repaid.
This was one way of looking at it and was being widely promoted at the time by somebody with an axe to grind- no names, no pack drill. 8-)

However, as Aggi says, the loan from Modus needed repaying and, speaking personally, as some of the loans were made from trusts, that required their trustees to seek repayment because of their fiduciary duties to the beneficiaries (and the sheer uncertainty of lending money to a then Championship football club in the first place....).

Some of the lenders in the period leading up to the 08-09 season went on to become bondholders in the "Turf Moor Buy Back" scheme which was an astounding success with the repayments being made ahead of schedule thanks to our success on the pitch.

I would just like people to understand the other side of the situation following promotion in the summer of 2009, so I hope that helps.

Also: I've found myself being in two minds about Coyle. I had a couple of encounters with him at the Club and he was excellent company, and on one occasion was personally very kind indeed to me at a time of great sadness, so I had a very high opinion of him. His subsequent behaviour when he left the club has left a niggling doubt as to whether he was being entirely sincere, or whether he was just "after something". I'm inclined to come down on the side of "good bloke who made a big mistake", but I'll never be more than about 80% sure.

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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon May 13, 2019 12:52 pm

Oshkoshclaret wrote:The official Burnley Twitter feed noted the reception for Coyle last night as "Proper Burnley".

For me, "Proper Burnley" involves values of loyalty, honesty and integrity, none of which could ever be associated with the Lying Scotsman.
To me, "proper Burnley" means acknowledging the debt we owe to our past.

But course, if you want to hold a huge grudge after 10 years, then feel free. Completely pointless, but feel free.

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Re: 2009 Play Off Reunion Meal

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon May 13, 2019 12:55 pm

ClaretTony wrote:That money was gone very quickly and I’ll accept that we did have parachute money to follow. But in no way at all will I ever accept or believe that what we are achieving today is partly because of that 2009 promotion.
You are an absolutely superb bloke on here CT, but you've had a problem with Coyle since Day 1 because he did what the previous manager could not do.

No one is defending him for how he left, but its the continued ignoring of reality that bugs me.

Coyle got us into the prem, the parachute money enabled Howe to sign some top players who Dyche turned into a winning team.

To deny that is anything to do with Coyle is ridiculous.

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