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Cork

Post by Ooogeorgeorgeoghani » Sun May 12, 2019 5:45 pm

Great game today again but still getting caught in possession too much and losing it in dangerous places , got away with one today but then put mee in trouble for their first , needs to work on moving it quicker

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Re: Cork

Post by jojomk1 » Sun May 12, 2019 5:49 pm

Ooogeorgeorgeoghani wrote: needs to work on moving it quicker
We have seen the best of Cork, who now gets slower with virtually every game

First one to be replaced this summer
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Re: Cork

Post by Ooogeorgeorgeoghani » Sun May 12, 2019 5:53 pm

jojomk1 wrote:We have seen the best of Cork, who now gets slower with virtually every game

First one to be replaced this summer
We can't afford an instant replacement of that quality , but we do need to get some midfielders in as cover and eventually replacement

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Re: Cork

Post by CoolClaret » Sun May 12, 2019 5:55 pm

I thought he played well today and definitely had the better of his opposite number Guendouzi
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Re: Cork

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun May 12, 2019 5:57 pm

Ooogeorgeorgeoghani wrote:We can't afford an instant replacement of that quality , but we do need to get some midfielders in as cover and eventually replacement
couldn't disagree more
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Re: Cork

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sun May 12, 2019 6:01 pm

A player who needs upgrading this summer.

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Re: Cork

Post by DCWat » Sun May 12, 2019 6:06 pm

Another poor ball from Hendrick that gave away possession, ahead of their first. That was the mistake which started their move, although Cork certainly should have done better.

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Re: Cork

Post by Claretitus » Sun May 12, 2019 6:10 pm

CoolClaret wrote:I thought he played well today and definitely had the better of his opposite number Guendouzi
Really? Were you at the game mate? Guendouzi was defo 7/10 for them.

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Re: Cork

Post by SGr » Sun May 12, 2019 6:11 pm

Ooogeorgeorgeoghani wrote:We can't afford an instant replacement of that quality , but we do need to get some midfielders in as cover and eventually replacement
You’re telling me that Burnley, a profit making Premier League Football Club, with their new technical director scouting 22 professional leagues and their TV money resources simply can’t find a player that exceeds the quality of,

*checks notes*,

Jack Cork.

:shock:
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Re: Cork

Post by taio » Sun May 12, 2019 6:11 pm

Had a decent game today apart from the mistake
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Re: Cork

Post by SGr » Sun May 12, 2019 6:12 pm

Cork has fallen off badly this season and I can’t see him reaching the levels we saw 18-20 months ago. At the moment he’s the only one who can really be placed in that more defensive role, hence why he hasn’t properly been dropped all year.

Has to be the first one to be replaced this summer, no messing about.

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Re: Cork

Post by nil_desperandum » Sun May 12, 2019 6:20 pm

Cork has looked rather lightweight and struggling to keep up to pace in the last quarter of most games this season. (And I take no pleasure in
posting that).

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Re: Cork

Post by SGr » Sun May 12, 2019 6:23 pm

He just isn’t physical enough anymore. Picks the ball up facing our goal, looks to move across the middle of the pitch, and gets eased off it by the opposition midfielder in a dangerous position. Happens at least once every game, and very often leads to a chance or goal conceded.

This is where a player like Billing, 22 years old and a powerful 6’3” defensive mid would be a big upgrade.

If you want to see what a non top 6 midfield should look like actually, have a look at Watford. So much energy in Capoue/Doucoure/Pereyra.
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Re: Cork

Post by jrgbfc » Sun May 12, 2019 6:24 pm

Tbf to Cork it probably hasn't helped him playing pretty much the full 90 minutes in every game since the start of last season. Could do with being rested now and again.
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Re: Cork

Post by CoolClaret » Sun May 12, 2019 6:26 pm

Claretitus wrote:Really? Were you at the game mate? Guendouzi was defo 7/10 for them.
Yeah did you not see Cork take it round him in the first half and put in a good chance?

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Re: Cork

Post by Leyland Claret » Sun May 12, 2019 6:34 pm

I thought he had a poor game but Hendrick made him look like he had a worldie. 2 new midfielders are top of the list this summer. Thank goodness Westwood and McNeil came to the party

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Re: Cork

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun May 12, 2019 6:44 pm

Still a good player, but we need a Cork Mk II to push him.

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Re: Cork

Post by damo_whitehead » Sun May 12, 2019 7:08 pm

My big issue with Cork is he rarely plays 1 or 2 touch football when it's quite congested. It's 3 or 4 touches which leads him to get under pressure and lose it
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Re: Cork

Post by Goalposts » Sun May 12, 2019 7:18 pm

i thought he had a poor game today...definitely need an upgrade next season but would remain a squad player for me

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Re: Cork

Post by BOYSIE31 » Sun May 12, 2019 7:25 pm

Leyland Claret wrote:I thought he had a poor game but Hendrick made him look like he had a worldie. 2 new midfielders are top of the list this summer. Thank goodness Westwood and McNeil came to the party
Hendrick would make me now look bloody good he is that bad

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Re: Cork

Post by dougcollins » Sun May 12, 2019 7:37 pm

I wouldn't be too disappointed if neither Cork nor Hendrick were with us next term.

A good career in the Championship awaits them.

I don't have any stats but it wouldn't surprise me if a disproportionate amount of opposition goals came from these two losing possession.
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Re: Cork

Post by Im_not_Robbie_Blake » Sun May 12, 2019 7:41 pm

Cork was my Man of the Match today. Very impressive, especially first half.

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Re: Cork

Post by dougcollins » Sun May 12, 2019 7:44 pm

One man's meat..

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Re: Cork

Post by DCWat » Sun May 12, 2019 7:50 pm

Still a decent player. He certainly doesn’t need replacing but perhaps becoming more of a squad player.

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Re: Cork

Post by MACCA » Sun May 12, 2019 7:52 pm

Ooogeorgeorgeoghani wrote:Great game today again but still getting caught in possession too much and losing it in dangerous places , got away with one today but then put mee in trouble for their first , needs to work on moving it quicker
Put the rod away

Quite possibly the worst Burnley player for nearly a month!

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Re: Cork

Post by MACCA » Sun May 12, 2019 7:55 pm

Leyland Claret wrote:I thought he had a poor game but Hendrick made him look like he had a worldie. 2 new midfielders are top of the list this summer. Thank goodness Westwood and McNeil came to the party

Sshh hes a fan favourite
As a overweight 30 something, I genuinely think I'd offer more than Jeff.

What was that decision , or lack of it in the first half.

Hopefully he'll be gotten rid off this summer.
Hes a very poor footballer
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Re: Cork

Post by Spijed » Sun May 12, 2019 8:00 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:Hendrick would make me now look bloody good he is that bad
Are you one of those supporters who boo Hendrick at every opportunity?

If he's that bad why do you think SD picks him every week?

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Re: Cork

Post by Winstonswhite » Sun May 12, 2019 8:07 pm

Spijed wrote:Are you one of those supporters who boo Hendrick at every opportunity?

If he's that bad why do you think SD picks him every week?
Because no one is fit enough in his position to replace him.
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Re: Cork

Post by Spijed » Sun May 12, 2019 8:11 pm

Winstonswhite wrote:Because no one is fit enough in his position to replace him.
So you think SD would like to replace him then if he had the chance?

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Re: Cork

Post by John Johnson 1605 » Sun May 12, 2019 8:14 pm

CoolClaret wrote:I thought he played well today and definitely had the better of his opposite number Guendouzi
Interesting view as I thought Guendouzi was exceptional.

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Re: Cork

Post by Spijed » Sun May 12, 2019 8:25 pm

John Johnson 1605 wrote:Interesting view as I thought Guendouzi was exceptional.
Except he complained everytime someone went near him. Did he get fouled once in the entire game, yet he seemed intent on trying to get other players booked?

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Re: Cork

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sun May 12, 2019 8:26 pm

dougcollins wrote:I wouldn't be too disappointed if neither Cork nor Hendrick were with us next term.

A good career in the Championship awaits them.

I don't have any stats but it wouldn't surprise me if a disproportionate amount of opposition goals came from these two losing possession.
We are not a club who can just get rid of players like Corj and Hendrick. Both will still be important squad players next year we just need to add that extra bit of quality to supplement what we already have.

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Re: Cork

Post by Spijed » Sun May 12, 2019 8:28 pm

It's clear some will boo Hendrick come what may:

http://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboar ... t=hendrick" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Cork

Post by taio » Sun May 12, 2019 8:32 pm

We need to strengthen in centre mid but no way would I want Cork to leave. He'll still be an important part of the squad next season.

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Re: Cork

Post by warksclaret » Sun May 12, 2019 8:38 pm

We need to raise the competition for places. Bear in mind we lost Barton, Marney and Defour

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Re: Cork

Post by CoolClaret » Sun May 12, 2019 8:42 pm

John Johnson 1605 wrote:Interesting view as I thought Guendouzi was exceptional.
The only exceptional player on the pitch was Aubameyang - brilliant finishing

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Re: Cork

Post by lucs86 » Sun May 12, 2019 8:45 pm

damo_whitehead wrote:My big issue with Cork is he rarely plays 1 or 2 touch football when it's quite congested. It's 3 or 4 touches which leads him to get under pressure and lose it
You can only play 1-2 touch when there are options available, we're a defensive side, there's rarely short forward balls on.

There should be better options available in the transfer market but we can't expect too much from Cork's role in the current 'anti-football' system. He does a good job and he's a good worker.

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Re: Cork

Post by Top Claret » Sun May 12, 2019 9:00 pm

I was never a Jack Cork fan the 1st time he played for us on loan, but last season he was excellent and I warmed to him. This season he has been the Jack I remembered from his first spell at the Turf, and now is the time for an upgrade.
We should certainly keep him as he will be a good squad player

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Re: Cork

Post by BOYSIE31 » Sun May 12, 2019 9:09 pm

Spijed wrote:Are you one of those supporters who boo Hendrick at every opportunity?

If he's that bad why do you think SD picks him every week?
No but we need better much much better - I don't see what he brings to the table

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Re: Cork

Post by boatshed bill » Sun May 12, 2019 9:26 pm

jojomk1 wrote:We have seen the best of Cork, who now gets slower with virtually every game

First one to be replaced this summer
Overworked, like several of our players. This is a very tough league in which to play the majority of a full season in a 4 man midfield.

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Re: Cork

Post by Spijed » Sun May 12, 2019 9:27 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:No but we need better much much better - I don't see what he brings to the table
Hasn't SD repeatedly said that Hendrick does exactly what the manager wants him to do?

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Re: Cork

Post by Dark Cloud » Sun May 12, 2019 9:42 pm

Spijed wrote:Hasn't SD repeatedly said that Hendrick does exactly what the manager wants him to do?
What? Keep giving the ball away cheaply and getting Tarkoeski booked???
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Re: Cork

Post by burnleymik » Sun May 12, 2019 9:46 pm

I thought Cork showed glimpses of his former self today, especially first half. That said he has been off the pace for most games this season and Westwood seems to do the bulk of the work in midfield. Maybe it is tiredness, as someone else said, but I think he needs some serious competition for that spot, which may just light a fire underneath him again.

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Re: Cork

Post by Winstonswhite » Sun May 12, 2019 9:47 pm

Spijed wrote:Hasn't SD repeatedly said that Hendrick does exactly what the manager wants him to do?
We’ve won five premier league games with Hendrick on the pitch this season. If he is doing what Dyche wants then he’s hardly a beacon for the managers tactics Spijed.

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Re: Cork

Post by Dark Cloud » Sun May 12, 2019 9:48 pm

But about Cork....He's now far too slow and gets caught in possession time after time, It happened against Olympiakos back in August and it happened again today as swell as numerous times in between, so no change there. A truly great signing two years back, but now we really, really need to move on!

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Re: Cork

Post by Quicknick » Mon May 13, 2019 1:40 am

BOYSIE31 wrote:Hendrick would make me now look bloody good he is that bad
Drivel.

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Re: Cork

Post by Clarets4me » Mon May 13, 2019 2:16 am

SGr wrote:You’re telling me that Burnley, a profit making Premier League Football Club, with their new technical director scouting 22 professional leagues and their TV money resources simply can’t find a player that exceeds the quality of, *checks notes*, Jack Cork.
We may well be able to identify a number of players that fit your requirements, but then we, a relatively small Club in East Lancashire, have to research his character, personality, bad habits, and medical history. Once that's all clear, we need to offer him a deal acceptable to him, his agent, and then sell the area to his family, not withstanding the relagation clauses that will be in the contract.

We will offer a bonus structure, with many dubloons, based on us staying in the Premier League .. and a further promise that if a " bigger Club " comes calling, we will not stand in his way ...

Having spent many weeks doing this, our " target " may have his pen poised above the dotted line, but if a " Big City " club swoops at the last minute, offering £10k a week more, and a chance for his current " squeeze " to be 20 minutes from Harrods, and mix with the London set, then we're f****d !

It's not quite as easy as some would make out !

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Re: Cork

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Mon May 13, 2019 4:57 am

Jack has served us well and has been great value, however he looks like hes pulling a fridge around these days

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Re: Cork

Post by IanMcL » Mon May 13, 2019 10:44 am

It is the last match in a very long season of running, for Jack Cork. He will be feeling it more than most.

Give him a break. New season, new players and others available. Let's wait to see what happens.

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Re: Cork

Post by Shore claret » Mon May 13, 2019 12:01 pm

he was struggling to catch his little lad on the lap of appreciation, the little one must get that pace from his mum

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