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Re: Brighton sack Houghton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 11:45 am
by Chester Perry
claptrappers_union wrote:I remember reading that Brighton forum a few weeks ago, some fans were not happy with him as he played negative football apparently. Maybe the club feel it's time for them to upgrade and take it to the next level. Bit of a risk though.
This started last season and there has been a growing intensity to it throughout this season - it is entirely possible that it will fall into the same status as the "Ashely Barnes isn't nearly good enough for us" thread for those who started it all

the one thing Brighton have though is a proper sporting director who has now had a season to understand what he wants to do and formulate a strategy - he was considered quite the catch at the time however as Brighton season ticket holder @kieranmaguirre has posted today


As a Brighton fan I’m staggered by @OfficialBHAFC sacking Chris Hughton. Side with third lowest budget in Premier League finished fourth bottom & made semi final of FA Cup. #BHAFC scapegoating Chris for failures elsewhere at the club.Chris Hughton wasn’t the reason why #BHAFC signed Jahanbaksh & Locadia instead of David Brookes & Daniel James, both of whom were recommended by the scouting team but rejected by the algorithms of the analysts.

To be fair to the Sporting Director, those decisions were made prior to his arrival

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 11:48 am
by Lord Beamish
Jakubs Tash wrote:This could be one of those decisions that most outside of Brighton are amazed at but actually a lot of Brighton fans may think a change is warranted. In all fairness, 3 wins in 23 games in pretty poor - especially after such a good start to the season. They have only been saved due to how poor Cardiff were.
Similar to when Burnley potted Cotterill. Lots of folk outside Burnley though we were mad and that struggling along in the Championship was about as much as we could expect from the Club.

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 11:49 am
by bobinho
Be careful what you wish for....

More chance of them doing a “Bolton” than doing a “Leicester”.

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 11:51 am
by Rowls
Probably very good news for us.

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 11:54 am
by Lord Beamish
bobinho wrote:Be careful what you wish for....

More chance of them doing a “Bolton” than doing a “Leicester”.
But there’s also a good chance of them doing a Watford.

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 12:01 pm
by SammyBoy
I'm not surprised to be honest. I've frequented their forum a number of times over the past few years and a sizeable number of their fans genuinely believe they're more likely to crack the top 6 than be relegated. I imagine they will want somebody with a bit more sparkle sparkle than Chris Hughton.

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 12:03 pm
by Ric_C
Big season next year for them.

They have bought a LOT of players in, most who have flopped.

Murray is 37 and can't continue forever.

Hopefully they will self implode

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 12:03 pm
by Shore claret
Not suprising with their finish this season, before we beat them they were sitting in a pretty good position.
An over reliance on Glenn Murray goals has probably done for him.

Re: Brighton sack Houghton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 12:16 pm
by nil_desperandum
Woonderbah wrote:I don't think Harry Potter could take that club to where the fans think they should be
Yes, but maybe Brian Potter?

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 12:26 pm
by edison
Lord Beamish wrote:This is a watershed moment for the Club. The next appointment is vital. So much needs doing, Team-wise at Brighton. This is a big gamble for them; more so if, as CT alludes, Player Power has got him the boot. That’s a dangerous environment for any new Manager.
It is frightening if player power got him the boot, as they have a lot of average at best and poor players. He'll end up at Celtic or the Championship.

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 12:26 pm
by Steve1956
They had a better season than us....cant see Dyche being sacked can you,Brighton are tiny horrible club with horrible support,hope they get bitten by this shameful sacking off Hughton.

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 12:31 pm
by edison
Steve1956 wrote:They had a better season than us....cant see Dyche being sacked can you,Brighton are tiny horrible club with horrible support,hope they get bitten by this shameful sacking off Hughton.
I presume you are including their FA Cup run in that `better season' analysis?

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 12:50 pm
by Steve1956
edison wrote:I presume you are including their FA Cup run in that `better season' analysis?
Of course.do we actually enter the cup competitions ? :D

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 12:56 pm
by edison
We might have bothered had we Bournemouth, West Brom and Millwall, instead of City, but then again their run coincided with their rotten run of league form.

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 12:59 pm
by SGr
Not as bad a decision as it sounds, but their recruitment team needs a big shake up too. Jahanbakhsh for me seems like lazy scouting, and a big fee.

He has underperformed and shown big deficiencies though - if Brighton are willing to recruit a replacement properly, then it’s the right call. Don’t think he was going to get any better.

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 1:11 pm
by Falcon
Their season has been opposite to ours.

Started really well but very poor 2nd half.

Luckily we were sensible enough to stick by our manager.

Re: Brighton sack Houghton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 1:19 pm
by Spike
Top Claret wrote:Any relation to Pansy Potter?
They approached Brain Potter but he said the Phoenix was a better club

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 1:21 pm
by bfcmik
Jakubs Tash wrote:This could be one of those decisions that most outside of Brighton are amazed at but actually a lot of Brighton fans may think a change is warranted. In all fairness, 3 wins in 23 games in pretty poor - especially after such a good start to the season. They have only been saved due to how poor Cardiff were.
I wouldn't call 34 points poor. A couple of points above the average 18th place total most years.

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 1:28 pm
by Spike
Potter until January then Big Fat Sam?

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 1:31 pm
by Chester Perry
that is number 45 of the season - will there be more

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Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 1:33 pm
by kaptin1
Owen Coyle is available

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 1:38 pm
by timshorts
Graham Potter has a job. Would he give up at Swansea to go to Brighton? He has turned Swansea's season around in the last few months. Perhaps there is a bit too much unrest there and there will be further need to reduce the wage bill. Dan James will probably go, too, I'd have thought.

Harry Potter has already turned the job down. It wasn't a good fit. Brighton have far too many Slytherin players. He admitted to having an interest in them when his best mate Steve "Ron Weasley" Sidwell was playing.

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 1:44 pm
by FactualFrank
It'll be interesting to see who they appoint in his place.

Re: Brighton sack Houghton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 1:49 pm
by ClaretTony
Chester Perry wrote:the one thing Brighton have though is a proper sporting director who has now had a season to understand what he wants to do and formulate a strategy
Isn't Dan Ashworth just about to take up that role?

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 1:57 pm
by nil_desperandum
FactualFrank wrote:It'll be interesting to see who they appoint in his place.
I bet their fans are expecting a Ranieri type who will splash whatever cash they can raise and immediately establish them as a top European club.
Exactly the opposite of the "Burnley" way and with huge potential for implosion. (Fingers crossed)

Re: Brighton sack Houghton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 2:02 pm
by Woonderbah
Spike wrote:They approached Brain Potter but he said the Phoenix was a better club
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BHA end of season supporters' bash...
I'm getting the words 'plastic' and 'delusional'

Re: Brighton sack Houghton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 2:16 pm
by Chester Perry
ClaretTony wrote:Isn't Dan Ashworth just about to take up that role?
Been there for a few months after leaving England last summer

Re: Brighton sack Houghton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 2:19 pm
by ClaretTony
Chester Perry wrote:Been there for a few months after leaving England last summer
The appointment was announced last year but he only started at Brighton in Feb. He was due to serve six months notice with the FA but that was reduced to four months.

Very interesting opening comments too from Ashworth at this link.
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Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 2:44 pm
by Vegas Claret
the single most unsurprising thing to happen this off season

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 2:46 pm
by Lancasterclaret
They should absolutely push the boat out for Rafa.

Not saying they would get him, but that would be a definite step up for them

Re: Brighton sack Houghton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 2:47 pm
by FactualFrank
Woonderbah wrote:
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BHA end of season supporters' bash...
I'm getting the words 'plastic' and 'delusional'
Every time I see that picture, I think of Derek Acorah, channeling the diseased.

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 2:49 pm
by ElectroClaret
Lancasterclaret wrote:They should absolutely push the boat out for Rafa.

Not saying they would get him, but that would be a definite step up for them
Yep. Not to mention a huge step down for him.

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 2:51 pm
by Lancasterclaret
ElectroClaret wrote:Yep. Not to mention a huge step down for him.
But if they offer him what Ashley won't (ie a lot of money) then he might be tempted.

He might not as well!

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 3:03 pm
by AlargeClaret
Without a doubt the most staggeringly delusional, over sensitive bunch of plastic fans in prem league history . They seriously thought they’d make Europe this season.

They seem to think they’re can make top 6 with “ exciting sexy football” with seemingly little clue as to the financial clout and risk this ensues . One problem they have is that ( rightly or wrongly ) they’re seen as an “ easy 3 points/ bit lightweight etc” whereas BFC ( again rightly or wrongly ) are seen as “tough” “difficult well organised” not to be underestimated “powered by Dyche” etc etc

I’d have them as stone cold strugglers next season along with the newbies and a seemingly rotting Southampton .

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 3:10 pm
by Chester Perry
If Rafa sees this he might just go

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Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 6:33 pm
by yorkyclaret
Well funny on their board, they love falsely accusing everbody else of racism, but now it has happened to them, so much drama queenery.

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 6:41 pm
by Grumps
ClaretTony wrote:Not so much player power getting him the boot but from what I heard the players wanted to at least give it a go in some games. They've been very negative in both their Premier League games at Burnley, let alone against the top six.
But survived!!!

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 7:27 pm
by FactualFrank
yorkyclaret wrote:Well funny on their board, they love falsely accusing everbody else of racism, but now it has happened to them, so much drama queenery.
They're not happy reading about how Hughton kept them off the bottom.

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 7:30 pm
by Blackrod
Hughton was the best thing about Brighton. Not much left to like.

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 7:44 pm
by Nonayforever
It's an interesting situation now they have sacked Houghton.
He's basically, done nothing wrong, good cup run, kept them in the league and not ' bad' football.

They have brought in someone, who they would have had to go great lengths in order to interest him, to work alongside the manager for a future working model and then shelve all their plans.

Appointing Potter won't have been in their plans 3 months ago.

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 9:34 pm
by Clarets4me
scouseclaret wrote:Manager takes small club to top level, keeps them there for a couple of seasons, then grumbles start to surface about the style of football. Usually doesn’t end well - just ask Blackburn and Bolton fans.
And Charlton fans, for that matter ....

Re: Brighton sack Houghton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 10:05 pm
by Bosscat
I thought she played for City....
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Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 10:26 pm
by Wokingclaret
Better off signing Redvers Potter (Arthur Lowe)

Karanka got sacked for Potters position in the Championship

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 2:22 pm
by Shore claret
Clarets4me wrote:And Charlton fans, for that matter ....
And Swansea and stoke.....

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 9:22 pm
by BigF
Apparently Brighton considered sacking Hughton after the Cardiff game. So things have been in the pipeline for a week or two at least.

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 9:24 pm
by South West Claret.
Can anyone remember why he was given the gooner from Newcastle?

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 10:21 pm
by Spike
Jeremy Kyle now favourite

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 7:28 am
by Local cricketer
Heard a Brighton fan defending Hughton saying they are better to watch than Burnley. Did Hughton ever beat us in his time as manager?

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 7:45 am
by Lord Beamish
Local cricketer wrote:Heard a Brighton fan defending Hughton saying they are better to watch than Burnley. Did Hughton ever beat us in his time as manager?
Winning just 3 games in their last 23. That must’ve been scintillating to watch.

And no; I don’t think he did. He did take Dyche’s Manager of the Season Award, mind.

Re: Brighton sack Hughton

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 6:13 pm
by aggi
Was talking to a Norwich fan who said they weren't surprised. Complained that the football was terrible when he was in charge there with them lining up not to lose every week (at home) and trying to nick a draw or win.