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just a teaser for interest simple YES, NO or SAME

Post by s6t9a2f3f » Thu May 16, 2019 2:19 pm

Love SD but just for interest do people think we would improve under a guy like Marcelo Bielsa ?


YES

NO

ABOUT THE SAME

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Re: just a teaser for interest simple YES, NO or SAME

Post by wilks_bfc » Thu May 16, 2019 2:20 pm

No

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Re: just a teaser for interest simple YES, NO or SAME

Post by Down_Rover » Thu May 16, 2019 2:22 pm

No

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Post by MACCA » Thu May 16, 2019 2:32 pm

Improve in what way?

Probably not for about 80% of things, but there will be no doubt he could improve something somewhere.

No manager is complete and has no room for improvement.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Thu May 16, 2019 2:39 pm

improve in not understanding a word the manager says ? yes
more attractive football ? yes
would we lose more games ? yes
would we get relegated ? yes
Would I swap Dyche for Bielsa - No chance (and I'm one of our biggest critics when it comes to style of our play)

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Post by claret wizard » Thu May 16, 2019 2:40 pm

no

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Post by Foshiznik » Thu May 16, 2019 2:40 pm

Similar in demands but simple answer is no.

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Post by thatdberight » Thu May 16, 2019 2:45 pm

Sorry; can't do a yes/no/same.

Hard to say. A manager and his way of working is also influenced by how he's managed. Would Bielsa buy in to Burnley's way of doing things? Would he commit to staying for a very long time (if it's successful)?

Bielsa is a very well-respected manager internationally. There's no shame in those who say, "yes". Dyche has done a brilliant job unexpectedly, so no shame in saying, "no".

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Post by Turftalkers mentor » Thu May 16, 2019 2:50 pm

NO

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Post by Rick_Muller » Thu May 16, 2019 2:56 pm

no

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu May 16, 2019 3:13 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:would we lose more games ? yes
We lost 20 this season, I wouldn't put money on a new manager losing any more games than that.

Unless the players here got exposed for not being technical enough to play how Leeds do?

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Post by ClaretTony » Thu May 16, 2019 3:13 pm

No

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Post by South West Claret. » Thu May 16, 2019 3:19 pm

No.

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Post by Buxtonclaret » Thu May 16, 2019 3:19 pm

No!

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Post by claptrappers_union » Thu May 16, 2019 3:19 pm

A manager has to understand the culture of a football club. I don't think personalities like Bielsa, Jose, Pep, Klopp, Wenger, Benitez, Ranieri wouldn't 'get it'. They've been at big clubs all their careers. They'll spit their dummies out.

I was watching the pre-match stuff with Beilsa being interviewed via an interpreter, looking down at his feet and not engaging with the interviewer at all... we are a community club - can you imagine him being the figure head of Burnley Football Club?

Clubs like Burnley, especially with this board, will benefit from managers who you have played, managed or coached at both higher and lower league levels to appreciate what the club is about. If we were to appoint a manager from Europe, like Southampton and Watford did, they'd have to changes at the very, very top.

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Post by edison » Thu May 16, 2019 3:21 pm

no

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Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Thu May 16, 2019 3:22 pm

No

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Post by longhair » Thu May 16, 2019 3:24 pm

No

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Re: just a teaser for interest simple YES, NO or SAME

Post by Bosscat » Thu May 16, 2019 3:25 pm

NO

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Post by s6t9a2f3f » Thu May 16, 2019 3:31 pm

Interesting as I really feel if this guy at Leeds was younger he would be the next Premiership Marco Silva rapid rise to fame even though SD considered "unfashionable" might never get the next level up. Some things are now to people fashionable or not !!!!!! Eddie Howe gets a free ride, why ? because of the size of Bournemouth and the ground capacity but are managers never judged on their squads wage bill ?

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Post by Vegas Claret » Thu May 16, 2019 3:48 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:We lost 20 this season, I wouldn't put money on a new manager losing any more games than that.

Unless the players here got exposed for not being technical enough to play how Leeds do?
In the regular season Leeds scored 73 and conceded 50, Bielsa can't set up a defence and if you can't defend in the PL you get relegated

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Post by theroyaldyche » Thu May 16, 2019 3:54 pm

No

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Post by Dark Cloud » Thu May 16, 2019 3:55 pm

No. (And one big reason is I'm sure SD has had other offers over the years from other, potentially bigger clubs, but has always stayed loyal. I'm not sure you could get that from anybody else, including this Biesla guy! It's worth a hell of a lot!!)

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Re: just a teaser for interest simple YES, NO or SAME

Post by Falcon » Thu May 16, 2019 4:00 pm

No

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Post by ashtonlongsider » Thu May 16, 2019 4:04 pm

Absolutely No.

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu May 16, 2019 4:22 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:In the regular season Leeds scored 73 and conceded 50, Bielsa can't set up a defence and if you can't defend in the PL you get relegated
Is 50 goals in 46 games bad for an attacking side?

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Post by WestMidsClaret » Thu May 16, 2019 4:24 pm

**** no

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu May 16, 2019 4:26 pm

No

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Post by Vegas Claret » Thu May 16, 2019 4:32 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:Is 50 goals in 46 games bad for an attacking side?
in the Championship yes, that 50 will be 75-80 in the PL

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Post by ElectroClaret » Thu May 16, 2019 4:46 pm

No. Nein. Niet.

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Post by karatekid » Thu May 16, 2019 5:02 pm

Ok How many ways can I say NO to this.....

Afrikaans -Nee
Albanian -Jo
Amharic -Aye
Arabic -laa
Armenian -Votch
Asturian - non, nun
Azerbaijani - Yox
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Bosnian - Ne
Breton - Nann
Bulgarian - Ne
Cantonese - m hai
Catalan - No
Cornish - Na
Creole - Non
Croatian - Ne
Czech - Ne
Dagaare -Aí
Danish - Nej
Dutch - No
English - No
Esperanto -Ne
Estonian -Ei
Eurish - No
Farsi - Nah
Finnish - Ei
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Frisian - Nee
Galician - Nom – Non
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Hebrew - lo
Hindi - nahi
Holooe - M¯-sï
Hungarian - Nem
Icelandic - Nei
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Italian - No
Japanese - Iie
Korean - A-nim-ni-da , A-ni-yo
Latin - Non, Minime
Latvian - Ne
Lithuanian - Ne
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Malaysian - tidak
Mandarin - bú shì
Marshallese - Jaab
Norwegian - Nei
Occitan - Non, nani ( formal )
Polish - Nie
Europortuguese - Não
Portuguese - Não
Quecha - Manan
Romanian - Nu
Russian - Nyet
Serbian - Ne
Sesotho - Tjhee
Slovak - nie
Slovenian - Ne
Spanish - No
Swahili - Hapana
Swedish - Nej
Tagalog - Hindi
Thai - mai-chai/mai-oua
Tswana - Nnyaa.
Turkish - hayžr
Ukrainian - ni
Vietnamese - Không
Welsh - Nage
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Zulu - cha

The Hawaii one is very apt ;)
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Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Thu May 16, 2019 7:08 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:Is 50 goals in 46 games bad for an attacking side?
No, it would be good enough to get you promoted ---oh ---wait a minute...................... :D

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Post by Claretmatt4 » Thu May 16, 2019 7:14 pm

No

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Post by jrgbfc » Thu May 16, 2019 7:20 pm

The football would certainly improve.

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Post by Spijed » Thu May 16, 2019 7:28 pm

jrgbfc wrote:The football would certainly improve.
I actually think we play some very good football at times.
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Post by BleedingClaret » Thu May 16, 2019 7:32 pm

No

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Post by bfcjg » Thu May 16, 2019 7:34 pm

No Nay Never.

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu May 16, 2019 7:41 pm

Ashingtonclaret46 wrote: No, it would be good enough to get you promoted ---oh ---wait a minute...................... :D
Vegas Claret wrote:in the Championship yes, that 50 will be 75-80 in the PL
Norwich managed it but we might as well relegate now eh.

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Post by StuffyClaret » Thu May 16, 2019 7:45 pm

Bielsa is the finished article. There is no further room for improvement.

Dyche is still evolving. He's an unpolished diamond.

In answer to your question......No

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Post by jrgbfc » Thu May 16, 2019 7:46 pm

I don't really understand the view that Dyche is the only guy in the world capable of managing us. Bielsa has managed the likes of Argentina and Chile, working with the likes of Batistuta and Zanetti in their prime, yet he is dismissed as some kind of numpty by people on here.

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Post by Spijed » Thu May 16, 2019 7:52 pm

jrgbfc wrote:I don't really understand the view that Dyche is the only guy in the world capable of managing us.
Both West Brom and Stoke had the same view about Pulis....

....And the rest is history

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Post by Vegas Claret » Thu May 16, 2019 7:57 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:Norwich managed it but we might as well relegate now eh.
we only conceded 35 when we came up, if Norwich can't tighten up at the back massively then they will go down for sure

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Post by Joe14 » Thu May 16, 2019 8:00 pm

NO

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Post by IanMcL » Thu May 16, 2019 8:35 pm

No from me too!

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Post by Sutton-Claret » Thu May 16, 2019 8:44 pm

I'm not wasting my time answering YES, NO or SAME to such a silly question. I have much better things to be doing with my time.

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Post by icu81b4 » Thu May 16, 2019 9:19 pm

No

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Post by tiger76 » Thu May 16, 2019 10:40 pm

No still unproven in the English game,let alone as a PL manager.

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Post by Darnhill Claret » Thu May 16, 2019 10:55 pm

Cannot understand why people have a problem with Bielsa not being confident about speaking English to journalists. Not exactly new is it. We’ve had a South American going a full season with an interpreter before, or have we all forgotten ‘our Maurice’. Pochettino is doing ok now don’t you think?
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Re: just a teaser for interest simple YES, NO or SAME

Post by lucs86 » Thu May 16, 2019 11:12 pm

Bit of an unreasonable proposition because it's quite likely that Dyche's players would struggle playing a more expansive game under Bielsa (or many other 'more progressive' managers) and go down first season. so NO. But if Bielsa stuck around and got backing for players his record and pedigree shows he'd get promoted and achieve more than Dyche. So YES.

Leeds' team is not amongst the best in the Championship, it's dead average. They had a tonne of injuries and kids making up the numbers every game for months. If he stays and gets to strengthen the squad I can see them steamrolling it next season. With a bit more backing they'd be doing a Wolves.

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Re: just a teaser for interest simple YES, NO or SAME

Post by 7decades » Fri May 17, 2019 9:04 am

No No No, a thousand times NO

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