Tommy Robinson Tuesday

[ClaretAndJew]

How are you fitting 7 people in an Astra?

[Lancasterclaret]

I'm not biting and I won't.
But if you don't understand why people are going to vote for the Brexit Party today, and in huge numbers,
then I'm afraid you need to put a little more thought into it.

Otherwise come Sunday, you are going to be very confused and possibly alarmed!

No, I understand it if they are frustrated by Brexit, but a vote for Brexit is just as likely to get things done if its Lab or Cons. Thats the bit I don't get.

[ŽižkovClaret]

How are you fitting 7 people in an Astra?

Well, Snow White will be driving as the other lads can't reach the pedals......


(Sleepy didnt hear his alarm, hence 7)

[Healeywoodclaret]

Who's brushing them under the carpet? They've all received significant media coverage after the trial.

Seriously Smudge I don't know why you bother with the likes of Martin P and T Rex. Both are about ten, think they have a clue about Politics and are not interested in football. They just use this forum to sprout their bollicks. Wonder where they were Tuesday? Plenty of support for Tommy Robinson n Burnley. Lefties just a very subdued handful.

[Healeywoodclaret]

Yes how could the Burnley pond life show there distaste at young girls being groomed raped and pimped out its outrageous
they should keep quiet about it and it might just all go away ! oh and expecting their winning vote to leave the EU be implemented is simply not on.

Forget it Smudge Man liaising with Juveniles coming from the far Left!

[ClaretAndJew]

Plenty of support? There was about 300 people there. Out of a town of 80+ thousand.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Seriously Smudge I don't know why you bother with the likes of Martin P and T Rex. Both are about ten, think they have a clue about Politics and are not interested in football. They just use this forum to sprout their bollicks. Wonder where they were Tuesday? Plenty of support for Tommy Robinson n Burnley. Lefties just a very subdued handful.

Fair skill you’ve got being able to determine posters ages from an Internet forum!?

[nil_desperandum]

Plenty of support? There was about 300 people there. Out of a town of 80+ thousand.

And many of those were his core coterie who follow him everywhere. In fairness the guy in the horse and cart dropped most of his tools and came to support him.
(Except the sledgehammer of course, which you need for events like this - (apparently)).

[theroyaldyche]

Hope tommys done the business today

[Bordeauxclaret]

You’d never be able to tell.

[pushpinpussy]

the lefties will be panicking tonight

[tarkys_ears]

This boards f_cking sh1t now!

[KRBFC]

Imagine arguing toss about politics, what a steaming pile of horse sh**e, it's mass manipulation with false promises to receive votes and this thread shows we live in a world of gullible sheep.

Left v right? hahahahaha why can't people form their own opinions? I disagree/agree with parts from both sides, which side am I part of? It's hilarious seeing left/right wingers getting defensive about fantasy claims made. Wake up people

[KRBFC]

YOU RIGHT LEFT WINGERS

[Juxtaposition]

the lefties will be panicking tonight

Why? If we're leaving the EU then electing these clowns doesn't matter much. The only way it would matter is if we're not gonna be leaving the EU. And didn't Farage say something about becoming a terrorist if that happens? Something about getting a firearm and heading to the front lines, i believe.

[KRBFC]

Why? If we're leaving the EU then electing these clowns doesn't matter much. The only way it would matter is if we're not gonna be leaving the EU. And didn't Farage say something about becoming a terrorist if that happens? Something about getting a firearm and heading to the front lines, i believe.

you are a right winger

[theroyaldyche]

Oh tommy tommy

[CFS]

Running down the wing for me

[KRBFC]

Grown men throwing online insults at the opposition side, like we're fighting an online war against each other.

Red team v Blue team, both leaders lie through their teeth but you must agree with everything your leader says and act dumb when the opposition leader speaks regardless of your own personal opinion. BAAAAA BAAAAAA

[Swizzlestick]

Alright, calm down David Icke.

[evensteadiereddie]

Not taken him long, has it ?

[bfcjg]

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Demanding a fresh vote, strange then why he doesn't back a second EU referendum.

[yTib]

tommy robinson is a peabrained fool and anyone buying his hatred is equally as stupid.

[tiger76]

In the long run it's good that TR/SYL stood,as his pitiful performance finally dispels the myth that he has a huge groundswell of support.

[2 Bee Holed]

No, I understand it if they are frustrated by Brexit, but a vote for Brexit is just as likely to get things done if its Lab or Cons. Thats the bit I don't get.

Lancaster are you suggesting that Brexit supporters should have voted for either Lab or Con?
Do you think that either of these parties have done a good job on Brexit over the past 3 years?

I think Brexiteers are a touch disappointed with these parties.

Just a quote from the Government's own pamphlet distributed at a cost of £9.3m to each household before the referendum.

A once in a generation decision

The referendum on Thursday, 23 June is your chance to decide if we should remain in or leave the European Union.

The government believes it is in the best interests of the UK to remain in the EU.

This is the way to protect jobs, provide security, and strengthen the UK’s economy for every family in this country – a clear path into the future, in contrast to the uncertainty of leaving.

This is your decision. The government will implement what you decide.



I have highlted the relevant points in bold , just so you know why Leave voters are frustrated.

[Imploding Turtle]

Lancaster are you suggesting that Brexit supporters should have voted for either Lab or Con?
Do you think that either of these parties have done a good job on Brexit over the past 3 years?

I think Brexiteers are a touch disappointed with these parties.

Just a quote from the Government's own pamphlet distributed at a cost of £9.3m to each household before the referendum.

A once in a generation decision

The referendum on Thursday, 23 June is your chance to decide if we should remain in or leave the European Union.

The government believes it is in the best interests of the UK to remain in the EU.

This is the way to protect jobs, provide security, and strengthen the UK’s economy for every family in this country – a clear path into the future, in contrast to the uncertainty of leaving.

This is your decision. The government will implement what you decide.



I have highlted the relevant points in bold , just so you know why Leave voters are frustrated.

And the reason the rest of us are frustrated is because we think it's pretty clear that Leave received more votes than they would have received on the basis that it was promised that Leaving would be easy because we could easily get a favourable deal. But now pieces of **** are trying to claim that it was always a Remain versus No Deal Leave referendum. If the referendum was exactly that, Remain versus Leave with no deal, then it's pretty ******* obvious that Leave wouldn't have won. And this is why leavers are so scared of a second referendum where the Remain vote isn't split by the expectation of a deal being reached.

[AndrewJB]

Lancaster are you suggesting that Brexit supporters should have voted for either Lab or Con?
Do you think that either of these parties have done a good job on Brexit over the past 3 years?

I think Brexiteers are a touch disappointed with these parties.

Just a quote from the Government's own pamphlet distributed at a cost of £9.3m to each household before the referendum.

A once in a generation decision

The referendum on Thursday, 23 June is your chance to decide if we should remain in or leave the European Union.

The government believes it is in the best interests of the UK to remain in the EU.

This is the way to protect jobs, provide security, and strengthen the UK’s economy for every family in this country – a clear path into the future, in contrast to the uncertainty of leaving.

This is your decision. The government will implement what you decide.



I have highlted the relevant points in bold , just so you know why Leave voters are frustrated.

Only one party has been in power since the referendum, and it didn’t begin to speak with other parties until it was too late. The Tories allowed 95% of all the time since the referendum to elapse before they tried talking about the issue with politicians outside their own bubble. The blame sits squarely with the Tories.

[elwaclaret]

And the reason the rest of us are frustrated is because we think it's pretty clear that Leave received more votes than they would have received on the basis that it was promised that Leaving would be easy because we could easily get a favourable deal. But now pieces of **** are trying to claim that it was always a Remain versus No Deal Leave referendum. If the referendum was exactly that, Remain versus Leave with no deal, then it's pretty ******* obvious that Leave wouldn't have won. And this is why leavers are so scared of a second referendum where the Remain vote isn't split by the expectation of a deal being reached.

Clearly May was a disaster for Brexit. Who’d have guessed a remainder in charge of negotiations. “The deal” should have involved tough negotiation. Anyone believing a new deal is out of the question before October obviously hasn’t been involved in much negotiation. A strong leader making it plain that No Deal IS an option is the only way to enter negotiations to get the best agreement for Britain rather than rolling over for a tummy tickle.

As for Tommy Robinson, I don’t understand how anyone who has changed his name to hide his past convictions for several crimes is allowed anywhere near official politics. But then we live in a world where bulling seems to be replacing democracy

[aggi]

Clearly May was a disaster for Brexit. Who’d have guessed a remainder in charge of negotiations. “The deal” should have involved tough negotiation. Anyone believing a new deal is out of the question before October obviously hasn’t been involved in much negotiation. A strong leader making it plain that No Deal IS an option is the only way to enter negotiations to get the best agreement for Britain rather than rolling over for a tummy tickle.

As for Tommy Robinson, I don’t understand how anyone who has changed his name to hide his past convictions for several crimes is allowed anywhere near official politics. But then we live in a world where bulling seems to be replacing democracy

But talk is cheap. In order to convince the EU that No Deal is an option we need to have the personnel, systems and structures in place to cope with No Deal. That hasn't happened and it's arguably too late for it to happen before October.

Farage, Raab, Johnson or whoever can talk as tough as they want to the EU but it's quite clear that what they say isn't backed up by reality.

[elwaclaret]

But talk is cheap. In order to convince the EU that No Deal is an option we need to have the personnel, systems and structures in place to cope with No Deal. That hasn't happened and it's arguably too late for it to happen before October.

Farage, Raab, Johnson or whoever can talk as tough as they want to the EU but it's quite clear that what they say isn't backed up by reality.

No and the reason it wasn’t sorted was because Cameron refused to allow his staff to prepare for defeat in his little referendum and May thought she could just put he head down and storm through with her deal. Both remainers

[Imploding Turtle]

As for Tommy Robinson, I don’t understand how anyone who has changed his name to hide his past convictions for several crimes is allowed anywhere near official politics. But then we live in a world where bulling seems to be replacing democracy

Democracy is dying. It requires an informed population to work but our population, and many in other western populations, have shown that they don't want to be informed. They want the comforting lie over the verifiable truth. They don't mind it if corruption is rampant if in the short term their interests are being met.
Conservatism and democracy have never really been comfortable bed-fellows right from the outset so it makes sense that it's a brand of conservatism that is bringing an end to democracy.

[2 Bee Holed]

Only one party has been in power since the referendum, and it didn’t begin to speak with other parties until it was too late. The Tories allowed 95% of all the time since the referendum to elapse before they tried talking about the issue with politicians outside their own bubble. The blame sits squarely with the Tories.

I agree AndrewJB.
However, Brexit supporters in the Labour Party must be equally as frustrated with Labour's wishy washy unfathomable strategy.
It takes them 5 minutes to explain it when they are asked. Even then it's fairly unintelligible to the masses.
I am not convinced they understand it themselves.
So if you are in favour of democracy, or are a Brexit believer in the Labour party then you are not likely to have voted Labour in the EU elections.

I say in favour of democracy, because I know 2 people who are life-long Labour Party members, neither of them voted Labour at the EU elections and voted Remain in the referendum.
They have now eventually accepted that democracy must be the single over-riding factor. So they have come to accept the EU referendum result.
They have both accepted that we need to move on from this impasse. They both voted for Farage.

[ClaretMoffitt]

Democracy is dying. It requires an informed population to work but our population, and many in other western populations, have shown that they don't want to be informed. They want the comforting lie over the verifiable truth. They don't mind it if corruption is rampant if in the short term their interests are being met.
Conservatism and democracy have never really been comfortable bed-fellows right from the outset so it makes sense that it's a brand of conservatism that is bringing an end to democracy.

Thats ironic coming from someone who is pro-EU

[evensteadiereddie]

You prove the point of his second sentence beautifully, Muff.

[AndrewJB]

Thats ironic coming from someone who is pro-EU

I see the EU as another layer of democracy and judicial oversight for the British people. Our.country could elect an extreme government, but it’s very unlikely that a majority of EU countries will at the same time.

[claretonthecoast1882]

I see the EU as another layer of democracy and judicial oversight for the British people. Our.country could elect an extreme government, but it’s very unlikely that a majority of EU countries will at the same time.

Don't think there is any chance of Corbyn winning any election so we are safe from an extreme government.

[Lancasterclaret]

Is this guy still a thing?

[AndrewJB]

Don't think there is any chance of Corbyn winning any election so we are safe from an extreme government.

Corbyn has won every election he’s stood in - whether as MP, or Labour leader. If they form the next government, I’d wager they’ll be a great deal more moderate than this and Cameron’s government have been: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/heal ... 57306.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Cameron instituted austerity to rid us of the deficit by 2015, which as we now know he failed to do. He also racked up more debt than every Labour government in history combined. You could say he conned the country into forcing the unemployed, the disabled, old sick and poor to pay for the financial crisis, only they didn’t. Their austerity went into tax breaks for the rich. So when we’re talking about extreme, a Corbyn government renationalising a few things, and properly funding the NHS and education won’t come anywhere near what we’ve just been through.

[Lancasterclaret]

Corbyn has won every election he’s stood in - whether as MP, or Labour leader. If they form the next government, I’d wager they’ll be a great deal more moderate than this and Cameron’s government have been: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/heal ... 57306.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Cameron instituted austerity to rid us of the deficit by 2015, which as we now know he failed to do. He also racked up more debt than every Labour government in history combined. You could say he conned the country into forcing the unemployed, the disabled, old sick and poor to pay for the financial crisis, only they didn’t. Their austerity went into tax breaks for the rich. So when we’re talking about extreme, a Corbyn government renationalising a few things, and properly funding the NHS and education won’t come anywhere near what we’ve just been through.

Every election?

2017?

Local elections 2019?

European elections 2019?

I mean, you normally talk a fair lot of sense, but thats Corbynista ********

[AndrewJB]

Every election?

2017?

Local elections 2019?

European elections 2019?

I mean, you normally talk a fair lot of sense, but thats Corbynista ********

Corbyn won his seat in 2017 with a large majority, and stood in neither of the other elections. That might come across as Ringo-esque spinning, but set against the equally absurd “he’s unelectable” mantra it balances out.

[Lancasterclaret]

Corbyn won his seat in 2017 with a large majority, and stood in neither of the other elections. That might come across as Ringo-esque spinning, but set against the equally absurd “he’s unelectable” mantra it balances out.

A Donkey with a red rosette would win in his seat*

*well, would have until Corbyn became leader and his seat actually voted majority Lib Dem last week.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Every election?

2017?

Local elections 2019?

European elections 2019?

I mean, you normally talk a fair lot of sense, but thats Corbynista ********

Sense ? He is more Corbyn than Corbyn

[AndrewJB]

I agree AndrewJB.
However, Brexit supporters in the Labour Party must be equally as frustrated with Labour's wishy washy unfathomable strategy.
It takes them 5 minutes to explain it when they are asked. Even then it's fairly unintelligible to the masses.
I am not convinced they understand it themselves.
So if you are in favour of democracy, or are a Brexit believer in the Labour party then you are not likely to have voted Labour in the EU elections.

I say in favour of democracy, because I know 2 people who are life-long Labour Party members, neither of them voted Labour at the EU elections and voted Remain in the referendum.
They have now eventually accepted that democracy must be the single over-riding factor. So they have come to accept the EU referendum result.
They have both accepted that we need to move on from this impasse. They both voted for Farage.

It will be interesting to see where Labour go in all of this. The temptation must always have been to “pick a side” in the Brexit debate, as voters love clarity, and perhaps after the EU elections they’ll move in that direction (especially as the choice is narrowing down between no deal and no Brexit), but it makes no sense to do this before the Tories and LibDems have chosen their leaders, and the Brexit Party have published their manifesto.

[AndrewJB]

Sense ? He is more Corbyn than Corbyn

I’ve given you a number of reasons why a Corbyn government would be far more moderate than the last two Tory ones.

[AndrewJB]

A Donkey with a red rosette would win in his seat*

*well, would have until Corbyn became leader and his seat actually voted majority Lib Dem last week.

Sure, and had it been a general election Labour would have lost a lot of seats, as of course would the Conservatives. But it wasn’t a GE.

[Imploding Turtle]

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Well, at least he didn't throw a milkshake because then his supporters would be hypocrites.

[Imploding Turtle]

can anyone on here tell me his real name and how I can contact him? Thanks in advance

Did you ever get a hold of him pushpinpussy? Maybe you can get a hold of him again to tell him how much you support him punching out other England fans. Maybe he can defend himself in court by saying the fan had a hold of a dangerous weapon, a McDonald's milkshake.

[Claret-On-A-T-Rex]

Seriously Smudge I don't know why you bother with the likes of Martin P and T Rex. Both are about ten, think they have a clue about Politics and are not interested in football. They just use this forum to sprout their bollicks. Wonder where they were Tuesday? Plenty of support for Tommy Robinson n Burnley. Lefties just a very subdued handful.

I am 46.
I have an A Level in British Government and Politics but my degree is in Architecture.
On Tuesday I was in Spain, where I live and write my award-winning, best selling illustrated children's books, my latest being the awesome "Super Sausage" (see below.)

You?

[SGr]

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Well, at least he didn't throw a milkshake because then his supporters would be hypocrites.

His entourage and spin doctors do a semi decent good job of trying to make out like he’s just a political activist fighting the system - but in the end the violent thug can’t be kept under wraps for long. It’s what he is. And anyone who falls for it needs their heads checking.

[Imploding Turtle]

His entourage and spin doctors do a semi decent good job of trying to make out like he’s just a political activist fighting the system - but in the end the violent thug can’t be kept under wraps for long. It’s what he is. And anyone who falls for it needs their heads checking.

The spin doesn't even work. His supporters know he's a violent thug, it's why they like him. And his opponents know he's a violent thug, it's why they oppose him.