Tommy Robinson Tuesday

AndyClaret · Post by **AndyClaret** » Sat Jul 06, 2019 11:12 am

TVC15 wrote:Sports Direct Slazenger grey sweat pants on the back burner for another month then ?

Whoosh....

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:34 pm

Tommy Robinson or whatever name he's using doesn't give a fig about the people of Burnley or anywhere else in the UK,he exploits people's fears and preys on them,thankfully the public aren't so gullible to fall for his gutter politics,and that's why he didn't come anywhere near becoming an MEP,now he's been soundly rejected at the ballot box his true colours are coming to fruition and it's not a pretty sight.

I don't actually believe he's thick,so he must have wilfully flouted the reporting restrictions in place during the trial,clearly he believes he's above the law,well Tommy you aren't and are now likely to face a prison sentence,i've no doubt all the sob stories will bring the donations flooding in once again.

It's strange that Tommy only highlights the Asian perpetrators of these vile crimes,you'd almost think he had an agenda,now what could that possibly be i wonder.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sat Jul 06, 2019 6:20 pm

tiger76 wrote:Tommy Robinson or whatever name he's using doesn't give a fig about the people of Burnley or anywhere else in the UK,he exploits people's fears and preys on them,thankfully the public aren't so gullible to fall for his gutter politics,and that's why he didn't come anywhere near becoming an MEP,now he's been soundly rejected at the ballot box his true colours are coming to fruition and it's not a pretty sight.

I don't actually believe he's thick,so he must have wilfully flouted the reporting restrictions in place during the trial,clearly he believes he's above the law,well Tommy you aren't and are now likely to face a prison sentence,i've no doubt all the sob stories will bring the donations flooding in once again.

It's strange that Tommy only highlights the Asian perpetrators of these vile crimes,you'd almost think he had an agenda,now what could that possibly be i wonder.

His agenda is to make himself (in)famous and make money. Sadly, he’s succeeding.

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:02 pm

I walk past the Old Bailey every day on the way to work. 10 mini buses full of coppers on stand by both days. Plus others in the vicinity.

Such a waste of resources when the police are stretched so thin.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:15 am

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Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:18 am

What a wally.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:37 am

Wow, he wants asylum in another country. I think the irony meter is going off the charts.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:53 am

AndyClaret wrote:Whoosh....

You might be better changing that £20 into euros

Belial · Post by **Belial** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:15 am

Seeing that pillock in the striped yellow and blue top getting tolchocked has started the morning off well

ClaretDiver · Post by **ClaretDiver** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:25 am

How on earth can the US even consider this given his criminal record?? Unbelievable!

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:32 am

Belial wrote:Seeing that pillock in the striped yellow and blue top getting tolchocked has started the morning off well

eh?

Belial · Post by **Belial** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:38 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:eh?

Clockwork Orange

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:39 am

ClaretDiver wrote:How on earth can the US even consider this given his criminal record?? Unbelievable!

Including having entered the US under a mates passport... i dont fancy his chances.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:42 am

Cries and begs a lot doesn’t he.

ClaretDiver · Post by **ClaretDiver** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:08 am

ZizkovClaret wrote:Including having entered the US under a mates passport... i dont fancy his chances.

I forgot about that one lol!!! He would be better off crawling under a rock in somewhere like Cambodia...

Suratclaret · Post by **Suratclaret** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:10 am

ClaretDiver wrote:I forgot about that one lol!!! He would be better off crawling under a rock in somewhere like Cambodia...

Bit unfair on Cambodian rocks although he'd probably have got on quite well with Pol Pot

ClaretDiver · Post by **ClaretDiver** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:13 am

Suratclaret wrote:Bit unfair on Cambodian rocks although he'd probably have got on quite well with Pol Pot

I was going to suggest Thailand but not sure eve they would have him lol!

ClaretDiver · Post by **ClaretDiver** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:14 am

He might get asylum in North Korea!!!

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:14 am

ClaretDiver wrote:I was going to suggest Thailand but not sure eve they would have him lol!

He'd get to report on Gary Gli... ah, nvm. I just remembered something about Glitter that disqualifies him from Tommy's interests.

Edit: Oh. Apparently he's in prison now. That's nice.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:34 am

Tommy Robinson, hailed by his supporters as a brave fearless warrior who is willing to “die for his beliefs”, is now begging for asylum on camera...

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:54 am

If he's serious he knows where he can go.

https://uk.usembassy.gov/address-new-u- ... sy-london/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:59 am

Brave Sir Robinson.

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:01 am

Already an illegal immigrant and now an asylum seeker. He'll be getting arrested for possession of a muslamic ray gun soon.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:44 am

Just read somewhere they have spent millions prosecuting Tommy. The Government must want him gone pretty bad.

Amazing how they find money when they want to.

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:50 am

Our judiciary should consider contempt of court cases on a cost basis? I never had you down as a thicko, QTT.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:10 am

Billy Balfour wrote:Our judiciary should consider contempt of court cases on a cost basis? I never had you down as a thicko, QTT.

You didn't?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:11 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:Just read somewhere they have spent millions prosecuting Tommy. The Government must want him gone pretty bad.

Amazing how they find money when they want to.

I hear you. So if i can make prosecuting me for the crimes i commit to be really expensive then I should be allowed to get away with my crimes? What if i'm a muslim in a grooming gang, will that idea of yours hold then?

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:12 am

Billy Balfour wrote:Our judiciary should consider contempt of court cases on a cost basis? I never had you down as a thicko, QTT.

Do you think such cost would be allowed if you or I where the ones prosecuted?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:12 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:Do you think such cost would be allowed if you or I where the ones prosecuted?

lol. Yes.

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:52 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:Do you think such cost would be allowed if you or I where the ones prosecuted?

The current charge is for contempt of court - which in law is just about as serious as it gets. Ensuring the integrity, security and safety of our judicial process ensures that in most cases everyone gets a fair trial and justice takes its course.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:58 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:Just read somewhere they have spent millions prosecuting Tommy. The Government must want him gone pretty bad.

Amazing how they find money when they want to.

"Tommy" very nearly cost the courts system much more than that. As a result of his actions multiple defendants in that case applied to have the jury dismissed (and some the case).

If he was allowed to continue as he was doing with no repercussions then that would have happened at some point together with the huge associated costs. There was also a pretty good chance that at some point someone guilty of being involved in a grooming gang would have been released on a technicality due to "Tommy" but we all know that he doesn't really care about that.

Plus of course, choosing not to prosecute someone as it costs too much is a pretty bad idea. Do you know how much criminal investigations cost? They're not cheap.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:33 am

aggi wrote:"Tommy" very nearly cost the courts system much more than that. As a result of his actions multiple defendants in that case applied to have the jury dismissed (and some the case).

If he was allowed to continue as he was doing with no repercussions then that would have happened at some point together with the huge associated costs. There was also a pretty good chance that at some point someone guilty of being involved in a grooming gang would have been released on a technicality due to "Tommy" but we all know that he doesn't really care about that.

Plus of course, choosing not to prosecute someone as it costs too much is a pretty bad idea. Do you know how much criminal investigations cost? They're not cheap.

Maybe I have misjudged it then.

But I can't ever recall another contempt of court case of this scale, never mind cost.

I do wish the legal system would get rid of them technicalities/loopholes. But I guess the Lawyers would never let that happen.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:59 am

That’s because he invites all his thick followers to attend.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:01 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:Maybe I have misjudged it then.

But I can't ever recall another contempt of court case of this scale, never mind cost.

I do wish the legal system would get rid of them technicalities/loopholes. But I guess the Lawyers would never let that happen.

It's one of those things that get taken very seriously. This one stuck in my mind https://www.theguardian.com/law/2012/ja ... e-research" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:08 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:Maybe I have misjudged it then.

But I can't ever recall another contempt of court case of this scale, never mind cost.

I do wish the legal system would get rid of them technicalities/loopholes. But I guess the Lawyers would never let that happen.

Those "technicalities/loopholes" aren't for nothing. They protect the integrity of our justice system.

If we allow juries to be compromised the way Robinson was trying to compromise that jury then we would very quickly have trials being litigated in the media and not in the courts. Juries would be allowed to read lies in the press and base decisions on what they read as if it was true. Is that what you want?

I don't think you understand how important it is for juries not to have access to misinformation about the trials they're deciding. We simply wouldn't have a justice system any more. It would be a system where the wider public gets to decide the guilt or innocence of someone based on what will sell more newspapers.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:17 pm

aggi wrote:It's one of those things that get taken very seriously. This one stuck in my mind https://www.theguardian.com/law/2012/ja ... e-research" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Exactly. And it should be taken seriously because it is incredibly, and deceptively, serious. If even a single time someone is allowed to demonstrate contempt of court by violating a court's instruction without consequences then that sets a precedent that can destroy a justice system. Anything that can cause injury to a justice system is among the most serious crimes that can be committed against a democracy like ours because it is an attack on a fundamental right we all have, the right to a fair trials. And if one person is allowed to ignore a court order because enforcing it would just be too expensive (to use QTT's objection), then justice becomes dependant on how expensive we can make the fairness of a trial.

I wonder if QTT has imagined a scenario where instead of it being Tommy Robinson who was putting the fairness of the trial at risk but instead it was the friends and family members of the defendants in an attempt to cause a mistrial. Would the contempt trials that result in that scenario be too expensive, if they were equally as expensive as the Tommy trial? Because that's basically what would inevitably happen if we allowed contempt of court to be only enforced dependent on a budget.

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:16 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:Do you think such cost would be allowed if you or I where the ones prosecuted?

Looks like Turtle was right. I was giving you too much credit with regards to my previous post.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:22 pm

I wanna make the point that i don't think QTT's thick, i just don't think they've considered the consequences of what they want coming true.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:28 pm

Billy Balfour wrote:Looks like Turtle was right. I was giving you too much credit with regards to my previous post.

Fair play, not many admit they're wrong on here.

AndyClaret · Post by **AndyClaret** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:34 pm

It would be hilarious if Trump granted him asylum, the meltdown by some on here would be epic !

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:36 pm

AndyClaret wrote:It would be hilarious if Trump granted him asylum, the meltdown by some on here would be epic !

I'm hoping he does.

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:37 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:Fair play, not many admit they're wrong on here.

Fair enough. I hadn't seen your other post. I clicked on the notification option when you quoted me.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:38 pm

That said, i'm pretty sure if Tommy's not in custody already then he will be soon because i don't think that after you've been convicted of a crime for which you will go to prison when you're sentenced, making a video declaring yourself a flight risk is a particularly bright idea.

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:47 pm

AndyClaret wrote:It would be hilarious if Trump granted him asylum, the meltdown by some on here would be epic !

I'd welcome it. Anyway, didn't he enter the US illegally by using someone else's passport because he had previously been refused entry? That's quite a serious matter in any country, but especially so the US. Can't see Trump or anyone else getting the red carpet out for him, though you never know. Hope dies last or so they say.

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:01 pm

Blimey. How many names does our saviour have? I know he was charged with contempt of court under the name of Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. I know he stood in the Euro elections as Tommy Robinson. Now maybe this is old news to some of you, but today I find out that he's used yet another name of Paul Harris.

Lennon had previously been refused entry to the US and used a friend's passport to travel to the country in September.

He used a self check-in kiosk to board the flight at Heathrow and was allowed through when the document was checked in the bag-drop area.

But when Lennon arrived at New York's JFK Airport, customs officials took his fingerprints and realised he was not travelling on his own passport.
Lennon was asked to attend a second interview but managed to leave the airport, entering the US illegally.

He stayed one night and travelled back to the UK the following day using his own legitimate passport, which bears the name of Paul Harris.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-20935502

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:06 pm

AndyClaret wrote:It would be hilarious if Trump granted him asylum, the meltdown by some on here would be epic !

Why would there be any meltdown?
The only people who would miss him would be his small band of small-minded supporters, and to the majority on here who hold the same view of Trump as the UK Ambassador, (and who have a similar view of Robinson), it would indeed be hilarious. I just hope that Trump comes through for him.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:54 pm

Tommy's claims that he was just reporting on the case like any other journalist don't seem too convincing:

At another point, the respondent incited viewers to harass the criminal defendants.
The words relied on are:-
“You want to harass someone’s family? You see that man who was getting aggressive as he walked into court, the man who faces charges of child abduction, rape, prostitution – harass him, find him, go knock on his door, follow him, see where he works, see what he’s doing. You want to stick pictures online and call people and slander people, how about you do it about them?”

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:37 am

In court for sentencing
https://twitter.com/GaetanPortal/status ... 49472?s=19" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Katie Hopkins is along to cheerlead.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:49 am

aggi wrote:In court for sentencing
https://twitter.com/GaetanPortal/status ... 49472?s=19" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Katie Hopkins is along to cheerlead.

You mean he didn't go to the US embassy to claim asylum? Wow. It's almost as if he was making a political stunt with his video.

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:39 am

Jailed for 9 months