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Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 11:42 pm
by tim_noone
Damo wrote:The word inbred isn't racist.
For example, if someone says "all muslims/Pakistanis are inbred" it's the "all muslims/Pakistanis" bit that makes it racist.
You could argue that it's also racist to claim that everyone in Blackburn is inbred. But as there has not been a genuine history of treating people from Blackburn as a lesser part of society, then you would have a hard time being taken seriously
I reckon referring to the people of Blackburn as Horse Botherers signifies they truly are a lesser part of society.But not in my opinion.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 11:49 pm
by RingoMcCartney
What do they call The Grand National in Blackburn?




Porn.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 11:51 pm
by tim_noone
RingoMcCartney wrote:What do they call The Grand National in Blackburn?




Porn.
I'm offended.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:05 am
by AndyClaret
Greenmile wrote:The bits about Pakistanis smelling, or the bits about Muslims being inbred?

Because if it’s those bits, I have news for you. You are a racist.
So they don't breed with their own cousins, who knew ?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:11 am
by RMutt
Breed?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:43 am
by Steve-Harpers-perm
AndyClaret wrote:So they don't breed with their own cousins, who knew ?
Andy perhaps you might know of and be able to share some of Tommy’s other policies? Dom seems to be having trouble remembering them.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:43 am
by Greenmile
AndyClaret wrote:So they don't breed with their own cousins, who knew ?
So AndyClaret is a racist too, who knew?

Answer: pretty much everyone.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:58 am
by Burnley Ace
DomBFC1882 wrote:Hard to disagree with most of that mate. Fair play to you. Tommy is more of a game changer vote if I'm bring honest so the elite realise the working classes are here and have feelings and genuine concerns we arent allowed to Express and if we do were called fascists and nazi thugs which is insane really. Yes there are idiots who follow him I'm not going to deny that but I'm certainly not an idiot (dont know what my friends say haha) and there are many more like me. The more I get called names and we as people the stronger we become. It's a small pack mentality, a bit like going to watch the clarets away. I hope that explains it a little better
What are the feelings and genuine concerns that you aren’t allowed to express?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 7:01 am
by morpheus2
Unwashed Fascists afraid of free speech target Carl Benjamin aka Sargon of Akkad with strawberry milkshake with sprinkles on in Totnes yesterday - the fun (for the anti free speech Fascists on this thread) begins around 29:30.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IErphvpeOk

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 7:11 am
by pushpinpussy
was a good night with TR. he is very passionate about this country and I think people are now starting to detatch him from his links to the EDL. he has my vote by a country mile.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 7:12 am
by Greenmile
morpheus2 wrote:Unwashed Fascists afraid of free speech target Carl Benjamin aka Sargon of Akkad with strawberry milkshake with sprinkles on in Totnes yesterday - the fun (for the anti free speech Fascists on this thread) begins around 29:30.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IErphvpeOk
Should free speech include the right to make rape threats, in your opinion?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 7:13 am
by ClaretAndJew
But he still has the exact same opinions as when he was in the EDL. His detachment from that political party doesn't change his opinions.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 7:16 am
by pushpinpussy
he is more at sync with this country than any other politician In England. people are just afraid to vote or be seen to like him because of his past links to the EDL. they have long gone.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 7:18 am
by Rileybobs
pushpinpussy wrote:he is more at sync with this country than any other politician In England. people are just afraid to vote or be seen to like him because of his past links to the EDL. they have long gone.
People aren’t afraid of voting for him you wally. They don’t vote for him because he is a racist thug with a single agenda.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 7:22 am
by martin_p
pushpinpussy wrote:he is more at sync with this country than any other politician In England. people are just afraid to vote or be seen to like him because of his past links to the EDL. they have long gone.
He may be more in sync with you but thankfully you’re in a small minority.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 7:23 am
by pushpinpussy
don't be a sheep RB. don't be scared to vote for him because others tell you not too. im sure you have your own brain in their somewhere.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 7:23 am
by Rileybobs
pushpinpussy wrote:don't be a sheep RB. don't be scared to vote for him because others tell you not too. im sure you have your own brain in their somewhere.
Who is really the sheep here?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 7:26 am
by morpheus2
Greenmile wrote:Should free speech include the right to make rape threats, in your opinion?

No, that would constitute hate speech or a violent threat towards sexual assault.

Sargon of Akkad never made a rape threat as you well know, he made an unfunny joke about Jess Phillips in a tweet where he quipped "I wouldn't even rape you", unless that is you are referring to something else?

Should fascism include the right to throw projectiles at politicians in your opinion?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 7:27 am
by ClaretAndJew
Here's what I find really interesting and where I wish I had more insight into other's thinking.

I, along with I imagine a lot of other people on here, are the key demographic for someone like Tommy Robinson. Working class, living in an area with perceived mass immigration etc but yet I don't feel the tension or the issues that his supporters feel. We're basically the same people with different views so it's interesting to know what has shaped our opinions.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 7:28 am
by ClaretAndJew
morpheus2 wrote:No, that would constitute hate speech or a violent threat towards sexual assault.

Sargon of Akkad never made a rape threat as you well know, he made an unfunny joke about Jess Phillips in a tweet where he quipped "I wouldn't even rape you", unless that is you are referring to something else?

Should fascism include the right to throw projectiles at politicians in your opinion?
That tweet suggests he would rape someone, just not Jess Phillips.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 7:32 am
by ŽižkovClaret
When people are on their arse, they like to be told that a certain group are ****. It makes them feel better about themselves. Look at any lynch mob or baying crowd.

Always be opportunists like TR, and always people happy to be given someone to look down on.

If TR was serious about paedophilia, he'd be off the the Vatican too, but going papal aint good for his paypal, you might say

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 7:37 am
by ŽižkovClaret
Sargon of Akkad

Im supposed to take a neckbeard that calls himself that seriously then?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 7:37 am
by Steve-Harpers-perm
pushpinpussy wrote:don't be a sheep RB. don't be scared to vote for him because others tell you not too. im sure you have your own brain in their somewhere.
What are his other policies that have helped secure your vote?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 7:44 am
by Bordeauxclaret
So.... super excited to hear about these policies and ideas he has.
Anyone for sharing them?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 7:46 am
by morpheus2
ZizkovClaret wrote:Sargon of Akkad

Im supposed to take a neckbeard that calls himself that seriously then?
Exactly, nobody would, he's a joker- he made a crap joke about rape once.

Nonetheless, Fascists throw projectiles at him because he's taken up politics which do not conform to their particular world view, and anti free speech Fascists on this thread think it is fine to do so.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 7:49 am
by ClaretAndJew
morpheus2 wrote:Exactly, nobody would, he's a joker- he made a crap joke about rape once.

Nonetheless, Fascists throw projectiles at him because he's taken up politics which do not conform to their particular world view, and anti free speech Fascists on this thread think it is fine to do so.
What happened to Jo Cox?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 7:52 am
by ŽižkovClaret
morpheus2 wrote:Exactly, nobody would, he's a joker- he made a crap joke about rape once.

Nonetheless, Fascists throw projectiles at him because he's taken up politics which do not conform to their particular world view, and anti free speech Fascists on this thread think it is fine to do so.
Oh don't get me wrong he's a bellend

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 7:54 am
by morpheus2
ClaretAndJew wrote:What happened to Jo Cox?
She was murdered by a right wing nutter, do you not read the papers?

You kids need to grow up and start talking to each other in a grown up manner.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 7:55 am
by ClaretAndJew
morpheus2 wrote:She was murdered by a right wing nutter, do you not read the papers?

You kids need to grow up and start talking to each other in a grown up manner.
My point being she was murdered for her views and opinions. That's fascism.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 7:57 am
by DomBFC1882
Burnley Ace wrote:What are the feelings and genuine concerns that you aren’t allowed to express?
If you think people can speak and openly criticise Islam without being branded a racist or a nazi then you're sadly wrong. Amazing though how muslims are never called racist when they attack just like in Oldham. Hmmm how does that work I wonder?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 7:58 am
by morpheus2
ClaretAndJew wrote:My point being she was murdered for her views and opinions. That's fascism.
Exactly, yes - glad you agree.

Grow up.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 7:59 am
by ClaretAndJew
DomBFC1882 wrote:If you think people can speak and openly criticise Islam without being branded a racist or a nazi then you're sadly wrong. Amazing though how muslims are never called racist when they attack just like in Oldham. Hmmm how does that work I wonder?
Because they aren't upset over race in that instance. Just like if I kicked off at a Pakistani for having horrible views. It's not racist.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:00 am
by morpheus2
morpheus2 wrote:Exactly, yes - glad you agree.

Grow up.
Meaning people in general there, not you.....unless you need to of course.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:02 am
by TheFamilyCat
DomBFC1882 wrote:If you think people can speak and openly criticise Islam without being branded a racist or a nazi then you're sadly wrong. Amazing though how muslims are never called racist when they attack just like in Oldham. Hmmm how does that work I wonder?
There are lots of reasonable, rational and more importantly, informed people criticising all religions.

You won’t be aware of them though, because they aren’t doing it to incite hatred on the streets of working class towns (which they can then exploit for financial gain).

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:02 am
by Socrates
tim_noone wrote:I reckon referring to the people of Blackburn as Horse Botherers signifies they truly are a lesser part of society.But not in my opinion.
That’s glorious.

You think something but it’s not your opinion.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:04 am
by ClaretAndJew
Socrates wrote:That’s glorious.

You think something but it’s not your opinion.
He thinks therefore he isn't.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:04 am
by Lancasterclaret
Seems not to have kicked off and passed without the good name of Burnley and the majority of its people being dragged through the gutter.

Thats a relief at least

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:07 am
by claretonthecoast1882
Greenmile wrote:I’m sure he will get quite a few votes. There seem to be a lot of racists and racist-sympathisers about, nowadays.

If you think that will make people like me stop calling out his despicable words and behaviour, though, then you’ll be disappointed.

An admirable stance too, but wouldn't you be better doing that last night at his gathering as oppose to on here if you feel that strongly ?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:08 am
by morpheus2
TheFamilyCat wrote:There are lots of reasonable, rational and more importantly, informed people criticising all religions.

You won’t be aware of them though, because they aren’t doing it to incite hatred on the streets of working class towns.
The Hitch, Douglas Murray, Sam Harris....intellectual critics of religions such as these have all been denounced as 'racist' by many ...at least as soon as they have criticised the race of Islam.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:12 am
by DomBFC1882
TheFamilyCat wrote:There are lots of reasonable, rational and more importantly, informed people criticising all religions.

You won’t be aware of them though, because they aren’t doing it to incite hatred on the streets of working class towns (which they can then exploit for financial gain).
It's called awareness not hatred. Some of them grooming gangs dont even get an article in the paper. Different if it was me and my mates raping a Muslim girl I'd bet

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:16 am
by ClaretAndJew
DomBFC1882 wrote:It's called awareness not hatred. Some if them grooming gangs dont even get an article in the paper. Different of it was me and my mates raping a Muslim girl I'd bet
Which grooming gangs don't get mentioned?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:17 am
by Lancasterclaret
DomBFC1882 wrote:It's called awareness not hatred. Some of them grooming gangs dont even get an article in the paper. Different if it was me and my mates raping a Muslim girl I'd bet
Not sure that is even remotely true. Thats why you have to look at more than one news (!) channel all the time.

Did Tommy have any evidence to back that one up?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:17 am
by morpheus2
ClaretAndJew wrote:Which grooming gangs don't get mentioned?

The ones you don't hear about of course haha.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:18 am
by DomBFC1882
ClaretAndJew wrote:Which grooming gangs don't get mentioned?
Haha you're actually being serious arent you? If you think the journalism doesn't favour them then theres no hope

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:20 am
by TheFamilyCat
DomBFC1882 wrote:It's called awareness not hatred. Some of them grooming gangs dont even get an article in the paper. Different if it was me and my mates raping a Muslim girl I'd bet
1. It is definitely hatred
2. All of the grooming gangs who have gone to trial have been reported in the papers. Are there more to be uncovered? Probably?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:20 am
by morpheus2
Damn! I made a poor joke about grooming gangs using my online identity, does this mean I condone gang rape?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:21 am
by martin_p
DomBFC1882 wrote:Haha you're actually being serious arent you? If you think the journalism doesn't favour them then theres no hope
Just one example will do.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:21 am
by ClaretAndJew
morpheus2 wrote:The ones you don't hear about of course haha.
Had to like that one mate.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:21 am
by Steve-Harpers-perm
Bordeauxclaret wrote:So.... super excited to hear about these policies and ideas he has.
Anyone for sharing them?
I can only assume they are having trouble remembering them all? I mean why would you vote for him if he doesn’t have any other policies?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:22 am
by TheFamilyCat
I think it’s fair to say that Dom has been well and truly radicalised. Assuming he genuinely believes what he posts.