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Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 5:49 pm
by nil_desperandum
Spijed wrote:Wonder if this guy turned up yesterday?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE2OzGfIDLQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Don't think so, as he is rumoured to be busy drawing up the policy documents and manifesto whilst Tommy is doing the campaigning. :roll:

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 5:51 pm
by Juxtaposition
theroyaldyche wrote:Surprised you werent sat on your front wall with your camera. Your from that way arent you?


Oh tommy tommy
:?:
No.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 5:54 pm
by Ptangyangkipperbang
Spijed wrote:Wonder if this guy turned up yesterday?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE2OzGfIDLQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I don't usually post on these sort of things but that makes me proud to be British.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:03 pm
by Lancasterclaret
I'm going to hazard a guess here and reckon that Mr Muslamic Ray Guns is now an expert on the WTO.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:23 pm
by Greenmile
AndyClaret wrote:Facts dear boy, facts.
Source?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:43 pm
by TheFamilyCat
I’m glad nothing happened to make Burnley folk look like Dingles. Hang on, did someone say horse and cart?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:47 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
I’m beginning to think this guy doesn’t have any actual policies.

It wouldn’t just have been a load of sound bites would it?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 7:35 pm
by AndyClaret
Greenmile wrote:Source?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/h ... 41146.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health ... ldren.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-23183102" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/ ... ac1023b4ed" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 7:53 pm
by Steve-Harpers-perm
AndyClaret wrote:https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/h ... 41146.html

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health ... ldren.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-23183102" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/ ... ac1023b4ed" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
At first I thought you’d finally posted the links to his policies. Still we wait.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:35 pm
by timshorts
Juxtaposition wrote:I believe the Brexit Party's policies will be announced after the election. "Trust us", is their message.
This has already been posted on other threads multiple times. The policy is " we won, get over it" . What more can you need.

Tommy Robinson isn't having a manifesto in the ordinary sense of the word. We know that already. Instead he has a video explaining his proposal for Britain's future in the EU. That's been posted by spijed on this thread - post 398 I think it was.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:47 pm
by bfcjg
People like him don't offer anything.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:50 pm
by Real ale 2
Well what a depressing night that was ! Thought I'd go up and see what the "great White hope " was unfiltered seeing he was in my patch.A crowd of about 400 ..15% too young to vote ..10% his foot soldiers . Baiting the few protestors full of bile & hate with chants of paedo and you can shove yer ******* Isis up your ****..some more just curious to see what the "fuss " was about and the rest who sympathise with his message.And our European candidates message was anti immigration anti Islam..pro Brexit, i.e. Get our independance back and that was it.No policies on regional inequalities ,local government funding ,the NHS .maybe a solution to the the impending steel mill closures nah!Not one original thought or idea.The message was its me and us v the media,mainstream politicians . I'm one of you yes me little Tommy everyone else is wrong I'm right. I needed a shower after that to wash the stench of Mr Wonderful from my nostrils.Hope he scuttles off to the rock he came out from along with the we are patriots mob.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 9:20 pm
by theroyaldyche
Real ale 2 wrote:Well what a depressing night that was ! Thought I'd go up and see what the "great White hope " was unfiltered seeing he was in my patch.A crowd of about 400 ..15% too young to vote ..10% his foot soldiers . Baiting the few protestors full of bile & hate with chants of paedo and you can shove yer ******* Isis up your ****..some more just curious to see what the "fuss " was about and the rest who sympathise with his message.And our European candidates message was anti immigration anti Islam..pro Brexit, i.e. Get our independance back and that was it.No policies on regional inequalities ,local government funding ,the NHS .maybe a solution to the the impending steel mill closures nah!Not one original thought or idea.The message was its me and us v the media,mainstream politicians . I'm one of you yes me little Tommy everyone else is wrong I'm right. I needed a shower after that to wash the stench of Mr Wonderful from my nostrils.Hope he scuttles off to the rock he came out from along with the we are patriots mob.
Oh tommy tommy.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 9:21 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
Any news on his policies yet royaldyche?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 9:22 pm
by TheFamilyCat
Real ale 2 is obviously a Guardian journalist trying to brainwash us.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 9:37 pm
by Steve-Harpers-perm
Bordeauxclaret wrote:Any news on his policies yet royaldyche?
No he’s been too busy chanting his hero’s name non stop to take note of any of his policies.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 11:33 pm
by tim_noone
Socrates wrote:That’s glorious.

You think something but it’s not your opinion.
Sorry at the time I was in two minds.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 11:42 pm
by Greenmile
AndyClaret wrote:https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/h ... 41146.html

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health ... ldren.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-23183102" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/ ... ac1023b4ed" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Wait. Are we talking about Muslims or just Pakistanis? Or are all Muslims Pakistani in your mind.

I’d imagine the word Pakistani just seems a bit too long to you, though, for some reason.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 11:55 pm
by nil_desperandum
tim_noone wrote:Sorry at the time I was in two minds.
Just like our friend Ringo then? :lol:

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 12:37 am
by Dazzler
Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:At first I thought you’d finally posted the links to his policies. Still we wait.
You keep yelping & screeching "what other policies".. ?

Whenever has a mainstream party ever kept their promise of more than one policy from their manifesto?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 3:32 am
by Juxtaposition
Greenmile wrote:Wait. Are we talking about Muslims or just Pakistanis? Or are all Muslims Pakistani in your mind.

I’d imagine the word Pakistani just seems a bit too long to you, though, for some reason.
For racists "Muslim" has always been shorthand for "Middle-Eastern".

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 3:49 am
by CFS
Dazzler wrote:You keep yelping & screeching "what other policies".. ?

Whenever has a mainstream party ever kept their promise of more than one policy from their manifesto?
Yet they still have policies unlike the donkey

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 7:02 am
by Boll ewood
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Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 7:06 am
by Steve-Harpers-perm
Dazzler wrote:You keep yelping & screeching "what other policies".. ?

Whenever has a mainstream party ever kept their promise of more than one policy from their manifesto?
Not screaming questioning what apart from his obvious rhetoric won his vote. We could always of course just do away with party manifestos altogether and just go off whoever shouts the loudest.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 7:07 am
by Steve-Harpers-perm
Boll ewood wrote:
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Is uploading an attachment one of your school homework tasks?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 7:13 am
by ClaretAndJew
Whys he using a fake name anyway?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 7:13 am
by ŽižkovClaret
Above all else, he won't be a very good MEP. Can you see him turning up in any meaningful way?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 7:23 am
by TheFamilyCat
ZizkovClaret wrote:Above all else, he won't be a very good MEP. Can you see him turning up in any meaningful way?
A bit like Nigel and his Brexit mob.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 7:24 am
by Bordeauxclaret
Panic over, he’s given a detailed explanation of his plans here

https://twitter.com/hannahitv/status/11 ... 79872?s=21" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 7:35 am
by TheFamilyCat
Bordeauxclaret wrote:Panic over, he’s given a detailed explanation of his plans here

https://twitter.com/hannahitv/status/11 ... 79872?s=21" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Yet more evidence of the media campaign against him. How dare a journalist ask him questions.

I’m starting to feel a bit sorry for him now.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 7:42 am
by 2 Bee Holed
I doubt many of the people/parties representing the Leave side of the debate have policies.
This election was a bit of a surprise. If you recall we were told over 100 times that we
would be leaving the EU on March 29th.

Anyhow, I didn't realise MEP's needed policies. They are democratically elected yes, but for what?
They merely rubber stamp or don't rubber stamp the policies drawn up by
the unelected/undemocratic EU Commission don't they?
So why do MEP's need policies?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 7:49 am
by Boll ewood
Steve harpers perm. No homework involved sorry pal. Just showing my support for who I'll be voting for. No idea of your views and who you will be voting for but everybody is entitled to there opinions and let the best man/party win.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 8:05 am
by MRG
I’m confused about this obsession with policies for an independent MEP candidate.

I have no real feelings either way towards Tommy Robinson but I would question what would the point of him having a policy on the British Steel debacle as mentioned in a post above. It would be a paper exercise because quite frankly an independent MEP for the North West with have zero chance of making changes for the Scunthorpe based business.

The biggest attraction of an independent candidate to me is that they don’t been to fall in line with national policies, they can be reactive to the issues of the area that they are representing.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 8:12 am
by Lancasterclaret
Loving the defence of Robinson here.

For those of you who can string more than one sentence together and are actually of voting age, you do realise what he is don't you?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 8:14 am
by claretonthecoast1882
Lancasterclaret wrote:Loving the defence of Robinson here.

For those of you who can string more than one sentence together and are actually of voting age, you do realise what he is don't you?

A politician ? :D :D

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 8:22 am
by Lancasterclaret
Bizarre as it sounds, I actually understand the people who vote for Robinson (clearly racists or bigots) more than I understand the people who vote for Farage.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 8:23 am
by Steve-Harpers-perm
Bordeauxclaret wrote:Panic over, he’s given a detailed explanation of his plans here

https://twitter.com/hannahitv/status/11 ... 79872?s=21" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Better than the interview are the comments below!! One of his followers describes Tommy as a best selling author!!

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 8:24 am
by claretonthecoast1882
Lancasterclaret wrote:Bizarre as it sounds, I actually understand the people who vote for Robinson (clearly racists or bigots) more than I understand the people who vote for Farage.

I am close to thinking voting for anyone that results in the removal of both labour & tories from any voice or power is good

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 8:27 am
by Lancasterclaret
claretonthecoast1882 wrote:I am close to thinking voting for anyone that results in the removal of both labour & tories from any voice or power is good
I don't understand anyone voting for those two in this election to be perfectly honest. Its a 100% risk free chance to say "you two are **** and you need to sort it".

Guess I've just found a reason why people will vote for Farage! ;)

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 8:33 am
by claretonthecoast1882
Lancasterclaret wrote:I don't understand anyone voting for those two in this election to be perfectly honest. Its a 100% risk free chance to say "you two are **** and you need to sort it".

Guess I've just found a reason why people will vote for Farage! ;)

If he gets voted in and then we leave does the EU get to keep him ?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 8:42 am
by Dy1geo
Robinson is a product of the failure of the mainstream parties to deal with issues and events affecting communities. For years those parties have not dealt with those concerns taking their votes for granted and now you are reaping what you sow.
Take freedom of movement, Labour allowed unlimited movement when the EU expanded, one consequence of this was the driving down of wages in the skilled manual sector with Bricklayers etc many who are CIS self employed being forced to take a pay cut or not having any work. Unskilled work which by its nature is shrinking found a surplus of people wanting work hence driving down wages and working conditions. People who work in the public sector in general don’t face these pressures Teachers have guaranteed pay scales. This is before the impact freedom of movement had on local services. Yet if you moaned about freedom of movement “ you were labelled racist”
Then take grooming gangs for years in the first decade of this century people voiced their concerns yet the authorities though fears of harming community relations “tried to brush it under the carpet” thus letting down the very people they are there to protect.
You are now seeing some Parents who practice a certain faith organising boycott of schools because they don’t like the new curriculum, with only Jess Phillips standing up to them and mainly silence from other MPs yet if that had been a group of families from a white working class Estate there would have been uproar with them being called homophobic etc

The point I am making is that the party who is supposed to represent and best serve the interests of the “white working class” has moved away from them leaving the likes of “Robinson” the vacuum to exploit with “blame” sound bites.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 8:57 am
by evensteadiereddie
The skilled manual sector - your brickies and so on - are extremely well paid and tend to call the shots these days. I do agree that Labour need to reconnect with the so-called working class, white or otherwise. You've seen the responses on here from the disenfranchised knuckle-draggers, some of whom you suspect should know better but that's ill-educated mugs for you.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 9:06 am
by martin_p
Dazzler wrote:You keep yelping & screeching "what other policies".. ?

Whenever has a mainstream party ever kept their promise of more than one policy from their manifesto?
Pretty much every election in history.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 9:14 am
by Lancasterclaret
claretonthecoast1882 wrote:If he gets voted in and then we leave does the EU get to keep him ?
He'll have to turn up so they can keep him!

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 9:16 am
by TheFamilyCat
Dy1geo wrote:Robinson is a product of the failure of the mainstream parties to deal with issues and events affecting communities. For years those parties have not dealt with those concerns taking their votes for granted and now you are reaping what you sow.
Take freedom of movement, Labour allowed unlimited movement when the EU expanded, one consequence of this was the driving down of wages in the skilled manual sector with Bricklayers etc many who are CIS self employed being forced to take a pay cut or not having any work. Unskilled work which by its nature is shrinking found a surplus of people wanting work hence driving down wages and working conditions. People who work in the public sector in general don’t face these pressures Teachers have guaranteed pay scales. This is before the impact freedom of movement had on local services. Yet if you moaned about freedom of movement “ you were labelled racist”
Then take grooming gangs for years in the first decade of this century people voiced their concerns yet the authorities though fears of harming community relations “tried to brush it under the carpet” thus letting down the very people they are there to protect.
You are now seeing some Parents who practice a certain faith organising boycott of schools because they don’t like the new curriculum, with only Jess Phillips standing up to them and mainly silence from other MPs yet if that had been a group of families from a white working class Estate there would have been uproar with them being called homophobic etc

The point I am making is that the party who is supposed to represent and best serve the interests of the “white working class” has moved away from them leaving the likes of “Robinson” the vacuum to exploit with “blame” sound bites.
Your point doesn’t make sense. You say people feel let down by a left wing party, so vote for an extreme right winger.

Unless you are saying that people voted Labour purely because they are working class and regardless of their actual policies.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 9:19 am
by bfccrazy
Bordeauxclaret wrote:Panic over, he’s given a detailed explanation of his plans here

https://twitter.com/hannahitv/status/11 ... 79872?s=21" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
:lol: :lol: :lol:

FFS

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 9:20 am
by 2 Bee Holed
Lancasterclaret wrote:Bizarre as it sounds, I actually understand the people who vote for Robinson (clearly racists or bigots) more than I understand the people who vote for Farage.
I'm not biting and I won't.
But if you don't understand why people are going to vote for the Brexit Party today, and in huge numbers,
then I'm afraid you need to put a little more thought into it.

Otherwise come Sunday, you are going to be very confused and possibly alarmed!

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 9:26 am
by Dy1geo
TheFamilyCat wrote:Your point doesn’t make sense. You say people feel let down by a left wing party, so vote for an extreme right winger.

Unless you are saying that people voted Labour purely because they are working class and regardless of their actual policies.
Many ordinary voters don’t regard themselves as right or left wing. As I said “ Robinson” exploits the vacuum with simple sound bites blaming certain individuals and parties for the situation they are in which as we know stems from a culmination of issues.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 9:35 am
by claret2018
History shows us that after periods of recession or large income-inequality that support for politicians who blame economic and societal problems on someone (often immigrants, and in this case the EU) grows massively.

After years of austerity, Farage/Yaxley-Lennon is blaming poor living standards and national infrastructure on the EU/immigration and people are falling for it because they present their arguments in easy-to-digest soundbites, but backed up by little or no facts.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 9:40 am
by Pstotto
Seven students in an Astra all killed as it hits a wall and claret2018 says it was the tyre that burst that was the fault.