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Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 11:43 am
by claretonthecoast1882
ZizkovClaret wrote:The provided postcode i saw was somewhere around Stoops. Whether that is a "staging-post" for people to meet, or not, i dont know

There's a surprise :D

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 11:44 am
by Test User
Dy1geo wrote:What you have done is exactly the point I am making, you are moving the argument from the grooming gangs to the vile abuse committed in the Catholic Church etc. Abuse is abuse and should be condemned wherever it occurs.

Robinson will never mention abuse by “white” people it as it doesn’t fit his agenda and like I said the left need the likes of Robinson to feed on.

It needs more people like Nazir Afzal who says there is an issue with grooming gangs as well as abuse in white households shouting out and this will stop Robinson in his tracks.

The problem i have with Robinson "highlighting" it that i don't have with Afzal highlighting it is that Afzal isn't exploiting these girls for his own ideological motives. Robinson is exploiting these victims when he highlights these cases because he's only highlighting these cases to spread hatred of the people who look like the abusers. This is evidenced by the fact that he doesn't go around highlighting groomers who aren't Muslim or foreign, and the fact that his entire career is about Islamophobia, racism and xenophobia.

If Robinson wasn't so obviously racist and wasn't so obviously trying to spread hatred for Muslims and foreigners for so long then it would be believable that he has good intentions when talking about Muslim child grooming gangs. He wouldn't need to go out of his way to highlight other, non-Muslim examples because then he can believably say that he's doing it because these people are tarnishing decent Muslims with their perversion. But when you know how racist and hateful he is towards Muslims and then see him focusing only on one crime that's committed by Muslims and ignoring it when it's committed any anyone else, then his motives become clear - it's about further exploiting these kids in order to push his own agenda, and that makes him much worse than just a racist. And anyone who supports him is supporting his exploitation.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 11:45 am
by Test User
claretonthecoast1882 wrote:There's a surprise :D

See? You can be funny when you're not being an ass. There's hope for you.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 11:46 am
by evensteadiereddie
Bordeauxclaret wrote:He’ll have to be careful when Moff turns up.
He’ll end up looking like he did after that milkshake landed on him.
Superb. :lol:

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 11:47 am
by claretonthecoast1882
Test User wrote:See? You can be funny when you're not being an ass. There's hope for you.

A compliment ? lets do lunch

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 11:51 am
by Wile E Coyote
its all about fairness, this is supposedly a democracy therefore anyone should be allowed to campaign however much others find the message distasteful.
And what's with all this "community leaders" nonsense? the local press are highlighting dissenting voices from these otherwise lame and usually anonymous characters...who has ever needed a community leader in their lives in Lancashire?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 11:52 am
by Test User
claretonthecoast1882 wrote:A compliment ? lets do lunch
My cat stood on the keyboard.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 11:52 am
by nil_desperandum
ZizkovClaret wrote:The provided postcode i saw was somewhere around Stoops. Whether that is a "staging-post" for people to meet, or not, i dont know
Interesting - if true - that this is an area where we have a strong Eastern European community. Anyway, if its during the day they'll all be at work.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 11:57 am
by claretonthecoast1882
Test User wrote:My cat stood on the keyboard.

There is hope for the cat then

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 12:01 pm
by ŽižkovClaret
claretonthecoast1882 wrote:A compliment ? lets do lunch
McDonalds?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 12:04 pm
by claretonthecoast1882
ZizkovClaret wrote:McDonalds?

Sounds a jock place that :D Thinking more White Lion

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 12:19 pm
by Steve-Harpers-perm
The Burnley Express Facebook comments on Tommeh’s visit make for some really depressing reading.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 12:29 pm
by quoonbeatz
tiger76 wrote:Dig deep for Tommy,he's going to need all the cash he can get https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/wes ... r-16288793

I suppose he'll launch another crowd founder appeal,after all he is a man of the people.

He won't get anywhere near a seat in the NW region,even brexit voters are in the main repulsed by this individual.
Probably why he's selling his house

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-fo ... ent=buying" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 1:18 pm
by theroyaldyche
Devils_Advocate wrote:At least it'll give the Burnley pondlife a boost and something to do following the axing of Jeremy Kyle
Make sure you take some pics before signing on

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 1:22 pm
by theroyaldyche
nil_desperandum wrote:Interesting - if true - that this is an area where we have a strong Eastern European community. Anyway, if its during the day they'll all be at work.
And night with.some.of shifts they work

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 1:23 pm
by martin_p
quoonbeatz wrote:Probably why he's selling his house

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-fo ... ent=buying" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Not a hint of colour in that house! It's wall to wall white in every room.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 1:24 pm
by Test User
theroyaldyche wrote:And night with.some.of shifts they work

Oh no. The shift pattern they are working isn't a properly British shift pattern.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 1:26 pm
by tiger76
brigante wrote:He wasn’t so quick to highlight it when one of his fellow EDL member was prosecuted for raping children, strangely enough.

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article ... -sex-abuse" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'm sure SYL will condemn this piece of racist filth and child groomer who got a life sentence today for plotting to murder Rosie Cooper MP.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-l ... e-48306380

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 1:26 pm
by TheFamilyCat
quoonbeatz wrote:Probably why he's selling his house

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-fo ... ent=buying" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The estate agent has missed the photo of this room:
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Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 4:19 pm
by bfccrazy
SmudgetheClaret wrote:So you think actually highlighting it doesn't count ?
I can highlight how Sean Dyche doesn’t make subs enough or early enough to affect games.

Doesn’t mean I’ve done anything to combat it.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 4:49 pm
by Damo
martin_p wrote:Damo would also call this virtue signalling. When did it become neccesary to explicitly condemn vile, illegal actions rather than it just be a given that every right thinking person knows how bad these things are? Has our moral compass veered so far that people don't know that abusing children is a bad thing unless everyone 'condemns' it? It seems to me that 'calling these people out' has only become a thing since the discovery of asian grooming gangs.
Just to be clear, I wouldn't call that virtue signalling as I know what the term means.
Have a good evening pal

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 5:13 pm
by AndrewJB
SmudgetheClaret wrote:So you think actually highlighting it doesn't count ?
I think highlighting the issue is an important thing. It counts as something, though let's not pretend the issue hadn't been highlighted by the BBC and other news sources, because it was big news. And let's not pretend he broke the story, because he didn't. It's fair to say he jumped on the bandwagon.

If we look a little deeper into this, was he motivated by a concern for children, or an antipathy toward Muslim people? If it was the former then why has he not also gone after youth football coaches, BBC staff, and Catholic priests - all of whom are statistically more likely (far far more likely) - to be involved with child sexual exploitation? If it's the latter, then really he's just using the victims of these crimes to push his own anti-Muslim agenda.

I haven't even touched upon his thuggish actions and hypocrisy.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 5:48 pm
by AndyClaret
AndrewJB wrote:I think highlighting the issue is an important thing. It counts as something, though let's not pretend the issue hadn't been highlighted by the BBC and other news sources, because it was big news. And let's not pretend he broke the story, because he didn't. It's fair to say he jumped on the bandwagon.

If we look a little deeper into this, was he motivated by a concern for children, or an antipathy toward Muslim people? If it was the former then why has he not also gone after youth football coaches, BBC staff, and Catholic priests - all of whom are statistically more likely (far far more likely) - to be involved with child sexual exploitation? If it's the latter, then really he's just using the victims of these crimes to push his own anti-Muslim agenda.

I haven't even touched upon his thuggish actions and hypocrisy.
He was on Newsnight highlighting it in 2011, hardly jumping on the bandwagon.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 5:59 pm
by Spijed
AndyClaret wrote:He was on Newsnight highlighting it in 2011, hardly jumping on the bandwagon.
But he's not said a single word about any 'white' priests and child abuse, has he?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 7:55 pm
by AndyClaret
Spijed wrote:But he's not said a single word about any 'white' priests and child abuse, has he?
Some top class whataboutary there, well done you.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 8:02 pm
by martin_p
Damo wrote:Just to be clear, I wouldn't call that virtue signalling as I know what the term means.
Have a good evening pal
You clearly don’t.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 10:04 pm
by Damo
martin_p wrote:You clearly don’t.
Great argument as per usual Martin

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 11:02 pm
by Pstotto
To make a stance against the cultural policy of a country that wants ethnic, social and religious minority groups as the Uber Alles cultural elite to babel everyone else.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 7:20 am
by Indecisive
It’s astonishing that anyone takes this guy seriously. He’s clearly a racist. He’s a convicted criminal. He turned up at the house in the middle of the night to intimidate a journalist who had written about him ... wait for it...doorstepping his critics. He returned repeatedly and threatened to share this mans address and personal details to his mini army of football hooligans.

He was filmed bragging about his ability to ‘score’ drugs in any country he visits. In the same footage he made a racist reference to p*** taxi drivers.

He raises money online to fight his legal cases...makes out like he’s on some crusade....but lives in a mansion in the country?!

If you’re considering voting for this, please step back... read a bit about him...is this genuinely the kind of person you think could ‘make a difference’?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 7:41 am
by Steve-Harpers-perm
Indecisive wrote:It’s astonishing that anyone takes this guy seriously. He’s clearly a racist. He’s a convicted criminal. He turned up at the house in the middle of the night to intimidate a journalist who had written about him ... wait for it...doorstepping his critics. He returned repeatedly and threatened to share this mans address and personal details to his mini army of football hooligans.

He was filmed bragging about his ability to ‘score’ drugs in any country he visits. In the same footage he made a racist reference to p*** taxi drivers.

He raises money online to fight his legal cases...makes out like he’s on some crusade....but lives in a mansion in the country?!

If you’re considering voting for this, please step back... read a bit about him...is this genuinely the kind of person you think could ‘make a difference’?
Tommeh is a man of the people.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 8:47 am
by Corky
MRG wrote:If I see Tommy Robinson it will be one more time than I’ve ever seen the Bishop of Burnley and I’ve lived her all my life.

I’ve zero desire to see Robinson but what gives the Bishop the right to speak on my behalf?
Just seen the above at the start of this post.

The reason why some weirdo who dresses up in funny clothes and wears a pointy hat and believes in a god thinks he represents the Burnley community is because he is a member of the established church. That is why there are just shy of 30 CofE Bishops in the House of Lords. State and Church should not be linked and needs scrapping. Much like the HofL.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 8:47 am
by Spijed
AndyClaret wrote:Some top class whataboutary there, well done you.
But the point is that you would never hear Tommy Robinson pointing to cases of child abuse had the men involved not been Asian. He only ever targets non-whites.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 8:50 am
by TheFamilyCat
Have you ever tried ******* into the wind Spijed?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 9:02 am
by Spijed
So true ;)

https://newsthump.com/2018/08/22/tommy- ... edophiles/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 9:03 am
by addisclaret
TheFamilyCat wrote:The estate agent has missed the photo of this room:
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You don't have anything from the allied side?

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 12:49 pm
by brigante
Sh|ts getting real now.

Maccies being asked to stop selling milkshakes if there’s a fascist coming to town.

Lord have Mcmercy.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... rage-rally" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 3:00 pm
by UpTheClaretsFCBK
I’ll be interested to see what the attendance and reception is like. I have a feeling it will heavily vindicate my decision to leave England.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 8:50 pm
by Loyalclaret
Ellis milkshake bar on Standish Street will still do a blinding shake ;) ;)

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 11:21 pm
by tiger76
The news from Oldham doesn't bode well,don't yet know who was to blame,but TR events seem to attract trouble https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-m ... r-48323573

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 7:32 am
by AndyClaret
tiger76 wrote:The news from Oldham doesn't bode well,don't yet know who was to blame,but TR events seem to attract trouble https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-m ... r-48323573
It was the Muslim Defence League, throwing eggs and bricks.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 7:37 am
by DomBFC1882
brigante wrote:Sh|ts getting real now.

Maccies being asked to stop selling milkshakes if there’s a fascist coming to town.

Lord have Mcmercy.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... rage-rally" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Fascist? How does criticising an ideology make you a fascist? Brainwashed leftie and using the guardian as your source says it all

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 7:43 am
by DomBFC1882
[quote="tiger76"]The news from Oldham doesn't bode well,don't yet know who was to blame,but TR events seem to attract trouble
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Hmmmm

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 8:29 am
by Claret-On-A-T-Rex
Don't forget, if McDonald's are forced to stop selling milkshakes there are plenty of recipes online to make your own.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 8:30 am
by Claret-On-A-T-Rex
AndyClaret wrote:It was the Muslim Defence League, throwing eggs and bricks.
Brilliant, good for them, it's just a shame one of them didn't hit him on the head.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 8:33 am
by Claret-On-A-T-Rex
Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:Brilliant, good for them, it's just a shame one of them didn't hit him on the head.
Just to clarify, not with an egg, with a brick.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 8:42 am
by Spijed
Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:Don't forget, if McDonald's are forced to stop selling milkshakes there are plenty of recipes online to make your own.
Wonder if the flavour makes a difference to the damage done such as strawberry v salted caramel? ;)

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 8:57 am
by evensteadiereddie
Assaulted by a salted caramel...

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 9:12 am
by BurnleyFC
Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:Brilliant, good for them, it's just a shame one of them didn't hit him on the head.
Jesus ******* Christ.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 9:19 am
by Claret-On-A-T-Rex
BurnleyFC wrote:Jesus ******* Christ.
No, Tommy ******* Yaxley Robinson.

Re: Tommy Robinson Tuesday

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 10:46 am
by Dy1geo
The irony lost on here is that “Robinson“ wants the trouble it the tactics Griffin used all those years ago. He wants the publicity and will love the fact that the pictures of the protesters in papers like the Daily Mail are of “Muslims “ many masked up and the fact that they call themselves Muslim Defence League plays into his narrative. If he posted on here he would probably like the posters who are celebrating him being attacked because thats the fuel he needs.
In reality him and his like represent a very tiny proportion on the political spectre yet he gets far more coverage than he deserves because as I said earlier people on the left need the likes of him to feed on.