Lowerhouse v Burnley Cricket Rivalry

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Lowerhouse v Burnley Cricket Rivalry

Post by JimMcDonald » Tue May 21, 2019 8:39 am

Is this a THING ?

Not really into cricket but overheard two oldish men in the canteen at work going on about it saying Burnley are jelous that Lowerhouse pull massive crowds ? What do they mean by massive a few hundred ?
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Re: Lowerhouse v Burnley Cricket Rivalry

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue May 21, 2019 8:41 am

There are certainly some who enjoy Burnley losing at cricket for some odd reason, but then there are some on here who enjoy Burnley losing at football so pass trying to understand them.

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Re: Lowerhouse v Burnley Cricket Rivalry

Post by MACCA » Tue May 21, 2019 8:48 am

Just like any local rivalry really. Theres 2 teams ( well 1 really ;-) ) in the town so theres always going to be some banter between the 2.

It's a great family day out down the house, if the suns out, theres no better way to soak up the sun with a few beers, they certainly know how to host a good day at the cricket.

Think they regularly got over 1k on for the 20/20, and if i remember correctly over 2.5k attended the worsley cup final last year.

Obviously football will have an effect on the crowds in August

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Re: Lowerhouse v Burnley Cricket Rivalry

Post by SammyBoy » Tue May 21, 2019 9:01 am

I'm a casual fan but Lowerhouse is a really well run club and a cracking day out when the weathers right. That said if I had to pick a side it'd be Burnley as I spent a lot of my childhood up that way and had many a kick about on the cricket field in the off season. To be honest there are plenty of cricketing options to say Burnley is a relatively small town.

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Re: Lowerhouse v Burnley Cricket Rivalry

Post by MACCA » Tue May 21, 2019 9:08 am

Oh no, not cricket casuals now too, quick erect the fences...

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Re: Lowerhouse v Burnley Cricket Rivalry

Post by ZizkovClaret » Tue May 21, 2019 9:09 am

MACCA wrote:Oh no, not cricket casuals now too, quick erect the fences...
Just Frank really :lol:
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Re: Lowerhouse v Burnley Cricket Rivalry

Post by ClaretTony » Tue May 21, 2019 9:10 am

I’ve watched cricket at Burnley with a crowd in excess of 10,000. Mind you, that’s a good few years ago.

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Re: Lowerhouse v Burnley Cricket Rivalry

Post by Herts Clarets » Tue May 21, 2019 10:54 am

A couple of years back, Lowerhouse had more there for the bonfire and fireworks display than watched Rovers at home a couple of days apart :D
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Re: Lowerhouse v Burnley Cricket Rivalry

Post by Local cricketer » Tue May 21, 2019 11:07 am

Didn't see lowerhouse attracting these big gates when they went 150 years without a trophy ;) glory hunters

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Re: Lowerhouse v Burnley Cricket Rivalry

Post by ClaretTony » Tue May 21, 2019 11:20 am

Herts Clarets wrote:A couple of years back, Lowerhouse had more there for the bonfire and fireworks display than watched Rovers at home a couple of days apart :D
I think that was something that someone tried to pass as fact

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Re: Lowerhouse v Burnley Cricket Rivalry

Post by theroyaldyche » Tue May 21, 2019 11:21 am

Rivalry. Hahaha

Never seen rivalry. People go and watch both teams

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Post by Burnley1989 » Tue May 21, 2019 11:45 am

I'll watch both, some weekends I'll watch half at one and half at another if they're both decent games but in general I prefer it down Lowerhouse as its better for the kids to play

There a certainly a few that really , really don't like each other but its all a bit of fun. Both have been very successful over the last 10-15 years which is great for local cricket

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Re: Lowerhouse v Burnley Cricket Rivalry

Post by 1Simpleton » Tue May 21, 2019 11:54 am

I prefer to watch Burnley but my daughter prefers Lowerhouse as said its more family oriented and there are always other children to play with. Maybe Lowerhouse has touch more open space where its safe for kids to play in eyesight

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Re: Lowerhouse v Burnley Cricket Rivalry

Post by Burnley1989 » Tue May 21, 2019 12:05 pm

Yes, my Mrs hates the steps at Burnley and the fact there's not a lot of area for the kids to play.

Then again, it is a cricket ground and not a park

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Re: Lowerhouse v Burnley Cricket Rivalry

Post by 1Simpleton » Tue May 21, 2019 1:01 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:Yes, my Mrs hates the steps at Burnley and the fact there's not a lot of area for the kids to play.

Then again, it is a cricket ground and not a park
Agreed it is a cricket ground but if you spend a few hours down there kids some become fidgety and bored if there is nothing for them to do.
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Re: Lowerhouse v Burnley Cricket Rivalry

Post by Hopey » Tue May 21, 2019 2:59 pm

JimMcDonald wrote:Is this a THING ?

Not really into cricket but overheard two oldish men in the canteen at work going on about it saying Burnley are jelous that Lowerhouse pull massive crowds ? What do they mean by massive a few hundred ?
It's a thing. Just as Burnley vs Blackburn "is".

To some people it matters more than others, but I can assure you, to the players, it matters. Non of this fighting in lumps like the football, mind.
MACCA wrote:Just like any local rivalry really. Theres 2 teams ( well 1 really ;-) ) in the town so theres always going to be some banter between the 2.

It's a great family day out down the house, if the suns out, theres no better way to soak up the sun with a few beers, they certainly know how to host a good day at the cricket.

Think they regularly got over 1k on for the 20/20, and if i remember correctly over 2.5k attended the worsley cup final last year.

Obviously football will have an effect on the crowds in August
We beat our 2004 record gate of £4951.50 (£3 Gate) at last years final £6469. (£4 adult, £2 concession). It was a great spectacle and the first Lowerhouse Burnley Derby final, ever.
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Re: Lowerhouse v Burnley Cricket Rivalry

Post by MACCA » Tue May 21, 2019 3:38 pm

Hopey wrote:It's a thing. Just as Burnley vs Blackburn "is".

To some people it matters more than others, but I can assure you, to the players, it matters. Non of this fighting in lumps like the football, mind.



We beat our 2004 record gate of £4951.50 (£3 Gate) at last years final £6469. (£4 adult, £2 concession). It was a great spectacle and the first Lowerhouse Burnley Derby final, ever.

And what a great final it was!
I cant remember getting home , but up until that point it was a great day!

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Re: Lowerhouse v Burnley Cricket Rivalry

Post by 1Simpleton » Tue May 21, 2019 3:52 pm

Had to work that day, disappointed to miss out but that sum of money must be massive for the club as it probably wont be cheap putting numerous teams out. Hope the weather keeps for the 20/20

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Re: Lowerhouse v Burnley Cricket Rivalry

Post by ZizkovClaret » Tue May 21, 2019 3:53 pm

MACCA wrote:And what a great final it was!
I cant remember getting home , but up until that point it was a great day!
I can but tbf it involved a plane haha UTH

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Re: Lowerhouse v Burnley Cricket Rivalry

Post by Hopey » Tue May 21, 2019 4:00 pm

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Post by Dark Cloud » Tue May 21, 2019 4:32 pm

Lowerhouse is a brilliant club and set up, both on and off the field and only really lacks a plusher bar/clubhouse/tea room to cater properly and more "comfortably" for the large numbers who turn up, especially at the 20/20s (as advertised above) which if the weather is good are a fantastic and very lively evening! Some of the other clubs do put in a lot of effort, but don't seem to get anything like the numbers and they are always amazed at how well supported the 'Ouse is. It helps having zillions of kids in all age brackets up to seniors playing games pretty much every single night of the week (often two games side by side) which then creates interest among other family members who will come along to watch them play and to watch other more senior matches at week end. The "derby" rivalry with Burnley is very much tongue in cheek imo as we want to see ALL teams thriving, but Burnley don't really get the levels of support Lowerhouse get (yet still make an absolute fortune via home games at the Turf ;) ).

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Re: Lowerhouse v Burnley Cricket Rivalry

Post by bfcmik » Tue May 21, 2019 5:27 pm

To be fair for most of Lowerhouse's history any 'rivalry' would have been similar to, say, Stockport County and Manchester United with the 'ouse's ambition every season being to not finish bottom whilst Burnley were almost always up at the top end of the table. It is only in the last 25 years that the scales have become more balanced with the 2 clubs, probably, leading the Lancashire League revenue table by some margin. Lowerhouse because of their amazing support at all levels and Burnley because of it's earnings on BFC matchdays

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Re: Lowerhouse v Burnley Cricket Rivalry

Post by CleggHall » Sat May 25, 2019 10:07 am

Nice piece on Lowerhouse and Stan Heaton in today's Guardian, Saturday 25 May.

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Post by Chester Perry » Sat May 25, 2019 10:14 am

here - 2nd part of the article

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/ ... -heartland" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Lowerhouse v Burnley Cricket Rivalry

Post by BigRedrose » Sat May 25, 2019 10:51 am

First derby of the season tomorrow down at Turf Moor, weather permitting. Burnley without Joey Marshall and Cole Hayman could struggle. On the plus side, sub pro Daryn Smit is again available for this match.

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Post by bfcjg » Sat May 25, 2019 11:26 am

When I travel to Burnley from Lowerhouse for the Derby I get there hours before the game hang around aimlessly ring for a taxi ask them to send a dodgy minibus and go to Burnley via Worsthorne. For added spice I report the minibus as having a bold tyre so there is a heavy police presence and escort. Best to get to Burnley two hours early. Repeat in reverse at game end.
Remind you of anything ?

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Post by Local cricketer » Sat May 25, 2019 12:24 pm

Worsley Cup today acting as a warm up for tomorrow. Just leaving for Accy now. Anyone taking a game in

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Re: Lowerhouse v Burnley Cricket Rivalry

Post by Dark Cloud » Sat May 25, 2019 12:26 pm

BigRedrose wrote:First derby of the season tomorrow down at Turf Moor, weather permitting. Burnley without Joey Marshall and Cole Hayman could struggle. On the plus side, sub pro Daryn Smit is again available for this match.
I'm otherwise engaged tomorrow unfortunately, as you well know!!! :roll:

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Re: Lowerhouse v Burnley Cricket Rivalry

Post by JohnDearyMe » Sat May 25, 2019 1:32 pm

Chester Perry wrote:here - 2nd part of the article

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/ ... -heartland" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Thanks, excellent article.

All credit to Lowerhouse. I remember going to watch some matches there in the 90s and they were something of a basket case. But hopefully teams across the country can try and emulate what they've done.

The article is correct to criticise the ECB though, they've done a real disservice to the game.

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Post by Dark Cloud » Sat May 25, 2019 1:47 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:Thanks, excellent article.

All credit to Lowerhouse. I remember going to watch some matches there in the 90s and they were something of a basket case. But hopefully teams across the country can try and emulate what they've done.

The article is correct to criticise the ECB though, they've done a real disservice to the game.
See the thread lower down re "Zizkov's directing skills finally being recognised" for more on this.

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Post by Longsidelenny » Sat May 25, 2019 5:31 pm

My mate at works says half of the committee at lowerhouse started at Burnley has cricketers but not good enough to get in the team so left and went to lowerhouse fair play to them getting a good side together bringing in good players we at colne are a little bit envious

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Post by Hopey » Sat May 25, 2019 7:15 pm

Longsidelenny wrote:My mate at works says half of the committee at lowerhouse started at Burnley has cricketers but not good enough to get in the team so left and went to lowerhouse fair play to them getting a good side together bringing in good players we at colne are a little bit envious
I couldn’t name one person on our committee that started at Burnley.

A few of the old boys have played at both clubs, but think your mates telling porkies.

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Re: Lowerhouse v Burnley Cricket Rivalry

Post by Local cricketer » Sat May 25, 2019 8:12 pm

House beaten in the cup :o Heaton out

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Post by Dark Cloud » Sat May 25, 2019 8:21 pm

Local cricketer wrote:House beaten in the cup :o Heaton out
Managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory tbh, but fair play to Rochdale who refused to roll over when all looked pretty hopeless and they fought hard for their win.

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Post by FCBurnley » Sat May 25, 2019 8:53 pm

Was never any rivalry in my day. Well certainly Lowerarse could never rival Burnley on or off the field.

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat May 25, 2019 9:04 pm

Local cricketer wrote:House beaten in the cup :o Heaton out
Just because Pope has signed a new contract.

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Post by If it be your will » Sat May 25, 2019 9:25 pm

My interpretation of the rivalry would be similar to Man U and Man C (before the UAE took it over)

Burnley were always seen as posher, more corporate, more respectable, richer and more successful; Lowerhouse was the real Burnley team.

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Post by ClaretTony » Sat May 25, 2019 9:34 pm

CleggHall wrote:Nice piece on Lowerhouse and Stan Heaton in today's Guardian, Saturday 25 May.
Good read

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Re: Lowerhouse v Burnley Cricket Rivalry

Post by ClaretTony » Sat May 25, 2019 9:39 pm

If it be your will wrote:My interpretation of the rivalry would be similar to Man U and Man C (before the UAE took it over)

Burnley were always seen as posher, more corporate, more respectable, richer and more successful; Lowerhouse was the real Burnley team.
I’d partially agree with you. The people running Burnley Cricket Club for years thought they were a cut above. Posher? I’d probably use the word snobbery.

But Burnley were still THE team. As far as I can remember they’ve generally had a very good team and there was a time when they were able to poach any decent player that came Lowerhouse’s way.

That’s changed now and much of that is down to the likes of David Wren & Stan Heaton who have turned Lowerhouse into a club far better than I ever thought possible.

It was the saddest of days when Dave passed away suddenly but I don’t think for one minute that those running Lowerhouse will allow all his good work to slide, in fact I’m absolutely sure they will build on it.
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Post by Burnley1989 » Sat May 25, 2019 9:51 pm

Spot on Tony! I’ve spent more time down both clubs than most, both are full of great people

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Re: Lowerhouse v Burnley Cricket Rivalry

Post by tybfc » Sat May 25, 2019 11:47 pm

Local cricketer wrote:House beaten in the cup :o Heaton out
They are related.

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Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat May 25, 2019 11:54 pm

Post 39 is pretty much spot on.

Lowerhouse were a pathetic club for most of their existence. A few pissheads by the bar were as good as they got.
The turnaround on both the playing side and getting seemingly every person from the local community involved is testament to the people involved.
A lot of other clubs are trying to follow their example now.

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Re: Lowerhouse v Burnley Cricket Rivalry

Post by Local cricketer » Sun May 26, 2019 8:36 am

Shame that it looks like the weather is going to intervene today

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Re: Lowerhouse v Burnley Cricket Rivalry

Post by Longsidelenny » Sun May 26, 2019 10:38 am

Sun is out in colne

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Post by Local cricketer » Sun May 26, 2019 10:41 am

Longsidelenny wrote:Sun is out in colne

Sun always shines on colne

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Post by If it be your will » Sun May 26, 2019 11:49 am

Bordeauxclaret wrote:A few pissheads by the bar were as good as they got.
Hey. What have I ever done to you??
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Re: Lowerhouse v Burnley Cricket Rivalry

Post by Local cricketer » Sun May 26, 2019 5:38 pm

Burnley 143-3 off the 27 allocated overs. Smit 84 not out. Game on

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Re: Lowerhouse v Burnley Cricket Rivalry

Post by Somethingfishy » Sun May 26, 2019 7:41 pm

Daryn Smit beats Lowerhouse. One man show today. We had Burnley in all sorts of trouble..pinned down and let it slip with poor bowling at the death when Smit took over. The chase never got going it seems and fell 33 short in the same overs. Smit taking 5 wickets to add to his display with the bat.
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Post by FCBurnley » Sun May 26, 2019 8:04 pm

I guess the Lowerhouse performance rhymed with Smit !!

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Re: Lowerhouse v Burnley Cricket Rivalry

Post by Somethingfishy » Sun May 26, 2019 8:14 pm

Well i only saw the Burnley innings and i was happy after 22 overs when Burnley were only 78...to let them get 143 was criminal. That is where the game was lost..and its not the first time.We let Norden do the same.

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