Good grief ! - Dawson again

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Good grief ! - Dawson again

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Re: Good grief !

Postby NottsClaret » Wed May 22, 2019 4:19 pm

Now it feels like summer.
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Re: Good grief !

Postby ClaretAndJew » Wed May 22, 2019 4:20 pm

Mike Rigg there, rifling through Lee Darnborough's sent folder.

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Re: Good grief !

Postby Lancasterclaret » Wed May 22, 2019 4:22 pm

22 May is really early for a panic buy but fair play!

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Re: Good grief !

Postby Blackrod » Wed May 22, 2019 4:22 pm

Really is time to move on. Wonder if the new recruitment guy had much to do with this development. Let’s dust down those old player files and see what we can rekindle ...... I wonder what Derek Riordan is doing these days

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Re: Good grief !

Postby Steve1956 » Wed May 22, 2019 4:24 pm

Blackrod wrote:Really is time to move on. Wonder if the new recruitment guy had much to do with this development. Let’s dust down those old player files and see what we can rekindle ...... I wonder what Derek Riordan is doing these days

Not be long and he will be on level 3,000 on Candy crush....it's going to be a long summer with us all twiddling are thumbs

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Re: Good grief !

Postby ClaretTony » Wed May 22, 2019 4:35 pm

We all know we tried very hard to get Dawson a year ago as well as back in 2014. Wouldn’t surprise me to still have an interest.
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Re: Good grief !

Postby claretonthecoast1882 » Wed May 22, 2019 4:35 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:Mike Rigg there, rifling through Lee Darnborough's sent folder.



Or it could be Dyche has told different recruitment people this is a player he wants
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Re: Good grief !

Postby ClaretTony » Wed May 22, 2019 4:38 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Or it could be Dyche has told different recruitment people this is a player he wants


Clearly is but for whatever reason some people just want to have a go at the club at any possible opportunity.
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Re: Good grief !

Postby theroyaldyche » Wed May 22, 2019 4:39 pm

Surely we can do better
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Re: Good grief !

Postby FactualFrank » Wed May 22, 2019 4:41 pm

It's the fee that bothers me, because that will no doubt be a huge chunk of our spending money. Unless Tarks is going and we'll only sell if we bring someone in first.

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Re: Good grief !

Postby Jakubs Tash » Wed May 22, 2019 4:42 pm

ClaretTony wrote:We all know we tried very hard to get Dawson a year ago as well as back in 2014. Wouldn’t surprise me to still have an interest.

Agreed. Can see the logic (in going after a player long admired - not the position of centre half). If Dyche likes him and has done for a while and there's a chance to get him due to WBA's cost-cutting then get it done. But don't mess around trying to get him on the cheap all summer.

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Re: Good grief !

Postby BurnleyPaul » Wed May 22, 2019 4:43 pm

Possibly Dyche is expecting Tarkowski to move and wants a replacement in before it happens.

Possibly Dyche is thinking that he wants to move to a 3-5-2 formation and he needs an extra CB to do so (thus allowing Dunne to have 12 months in the Championship next season to continue his development).

Possibly Dyche wants a bit of extra cover for RB but doesn’t want to use too much of his transfer budget to do so; this move could be a “2 for 1” option.

All I know is that if Dyche is so insistent on getting Dawson into the club then we should move heaven and earth to do it for him. He deserves our trust- he’s earned it the hard way over nearly SIX years!

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Re: Good grief !

Postby Jakubs Tash » Wed May 22, 2019 4:45 pm

FactualFrank wrote:It's the fee that bothers me, because that will no doubt be a huge chunk of our spending money. Unless Tarks is going and we'll only sell if we bring someone in first.

I very much doubt we would pay £15m cash up front. I don't think there are many football transfers where the full 'deal' is paid up front....

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Re: Good grief !

Postby claretonthecoast1882 » Wed May 22, 2019 4:45 pm

If there is truth in this and we get him, then the manager will be happy. If there is no truth in this and the bed wetters get all frothy then the normal people will be happy due to be amused at them.

Anyone mentioned there would be no profit on the signing as that is how every signing should be judged.

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Re: Good grief !

Postby jrgbfc » Wed May 22, 2019 4:45 pm

If it's true then it suggests one of our centre halves is on their way out. Probably Tarkowski but maybe Gibson.

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Re: Good grief !

Postby wilks_bfc » Wed May 22, 2019 4:51 pm

Said it before and I’ll say it again

I wouldn’t believe anything from that source and would even double check the date they said it was
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Re: Good grief !

Postby SGr » Wed May 22, 2019 4:53 pm

Honestly I think the only option is hire a hypnotist and get him to make Dyche forget that West Bromwich Albion FC exists. It’s the only way.
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Re: Good grief !

Postby claretonthecoast1882 » Wed May 22, 2019 4:53 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:Said it before and I’ll say it again

I wouldn’t believe anything from that source and would even double check the date they said it was



I wish I could remember the Wigan player or the Wigan fans name on twitter who asked the idiot if there was anything in the ***** rumour signing for Wigan, Nixon told him no nothing in it all, next minute the player is holding a scarf above his head in a shirt having signed and the lad was blocked.

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Re: Good grief !

Postby jrgbfc » Wed May 22, 2019 4:54 pm

SGr wrote:Honestly I think the only option is hire a hypnotist and get him to make Dyche forget that West Bromwich Albion FC exists. It’s the only way.


Or for Dyche to realise there is a whole world of centre halves out there other than Craig Dawson.

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Re: Good grief !

Postby ashtonlongsider » Wed May 22, 2019 4:57 pm

I personally think Dawson's been bang average in the Championship from what I've seen of him this year. Not sure how long he has left on his contract but £15m seems quite excessive IMO.

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Re: Good grief !

Postby CoolClaret » Wed May 22, 2019 5:00 pm

Good player and can fill in across the back, no issues - 15 mill perhaps a little too much though

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Re: Good grief !

Postby dsr » Wed May 22, 2019 5:01 pm

The Sun says that a bid is intended, not that it has been made. So presumably they've been talking to Sean Dyche and he has told them all his plans? Is that how he normally does it? Either that, or the Sun has made something up - surely not? :roll:

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Re: Good grief !

Postby boyyanno » Wed May 22, 2019 5:02 pm

Why did we not just sign Dawson in the summer instead of Gibson?

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Re: Good grief !

Postby Guich » Wed May 22, 2019 5:02 pm

If Tarks goes I wouldn't be unhappy with Ben Mee, Gibson and Dawson, with Long as well.

The way Tarks has played in parts of this season, if Gibson fulfils his promise I don't think we'd be weaker at all.

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Re: Good grief !

Postby Reecey1987 » Wed May 22, 2019 5:07 pm

ashtonlongsider wrote:I personally think Dawson's been bang average in the Championship from what I've seen of him this year. Not sure how long he has left on his contract but £15m seems quite excessive IMO.

1 year i think

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Re: Good grief !

Postby Bosscat » Wed May 22, 2019 5:11 pm

Guich wrote:If Tarks goes I wouldn't be unhappy with Ben Mee, Gibson and Dawson, with Long as well.

The way Tarks has played in parts of this season, if Gibson fulfils his promise I don't think we'd be weaker at all.

Gibson though is left sided like Ben ... so isn't a swap for Tarka

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Re: Good grief !

Postby nil_desperandum » Wed May 22, 2019 5:12 pm

Let's also bear in mind that Dawson has played quite a bit at right back, (an area that many consider to need strengthening), so it would give us an additional option / cover there.
2 for 1- A centre back and a full back doesn't quite sound so expensive - though obviously he can't play in both positions in the same line-up, (before someone points that out!!)

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Re: Good grief !

Postby Rick_Muller » Wed May 22, 2019 5:13 pm

this is only ever going to happen if Tarks is on his way

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Re: Good grief !

Postby Goobs » Wed May 22, 2019 5:13 pm

boyyanno wrote:Why did we not just sign Dawson in the summer instead of Gibson?

Probably because WBA didn't agree to the deal we offered them and therefore we couldn't offer him a contract?

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Re: Good grief !

Postby nil_desperandum » Wed May 22, 2019 5:13 pm

Bosscat wrote:Gibson though is left sided like Ben ... so isn't a swap for Tarka

But Dawson is, and that's the point, we've already got Mee and Gibson on our books.

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Re: Good grief !

Postby moaninclaret » Wed May 22, 2019 6:00 pm

Not Dawson please, sick of hearing his name mentioned, we can do much better than an average Championship CB like him, he isn't worth anywhere near the mentioned asking price, I wonder how long it will be before the Jay Rod saga will be re opened, leave well alone Sean.

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Re: Good grief !

Postby AlargeClaret » Wed May 22, 2019 6:14 pm

Wouldn’t be at all surprised if Palace or Bournemouth or maybe Watford put a decent offer in for Tarky . Our style doesn’t really let his game develop . Though he’s mainly very good , he’s not the quickest and doesn’t really have goals in him . Still like him to stay though

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Re: Good grief !

Postby wilks_bfc » Wed May 22, 2019 6:19 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:Wouldn’t be at all surprised if Palace or Bournemouth or maybe Watford put a decent offer in for Tarky . Our style doesn’t really let his game develop . Though he’s mainly very good , he’s not the quickest and doesn’t really have goals in him . Still like him to stay though


Would he want to go to those clubs or any club so far south though?
One of the reasons he pushed for a move from Brentford was for family reasons (his mum)

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Re: Good grief !

Postby Quickenthetempo » Wed May 22, 2019 6:24 pm

West Brom fans laughing at us with the usual 'I will drive him there myself for 15m'.
'I will carry him on my back all the way there for that much'.

I can't see Garlick sanctioning 15m for a 29yr old with one year left on his contract. No resale value at all.

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Re: Good grief !

Postby Colburn_Claret » Wed May 22, 2019 6:25 pm

I've nothing against Dawson, but we need to improve our starting XI.
Would Dawson displace any of our defence, would he improve it if he did.
No he would't.
It would be a complete waste of money. We desperately need to strengthen the midfield. The more we spend on benchwarmers, the less we have left, it's bloody simple really.
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Re: Good grief !

Postby mkmel » Wed May 22, 2019 6:25 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:Wouldn’t be at all surprised if Palace or Bournemouth or maybe Watford put a decent offer in for Tarky . Our style doesn’t really let his game develop . Though he’s mainly very good , he’s not the quickest and doesn’t really have goals in him . Still like him to stay though


I can't see him going to any of those clubs you mentioned

Leicester makes sense if they sell Maguire or maybe moneybags Wolves or poss Everton
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Re: Good grief !

Postby ksrclaret » Wed May 22, 2019 6:30 pm

Thank god Love Island is back soon

Anything to distract from following Burnley during a transfer window

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Re: Good grief !

Postby aggi » Wed May 22, 2019 6:31 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:Let's also bear in mind that Dawson has played quite a bit at right back, (an area that many consider to need strengthening), so it would give us an additional option / cover there.
2 for 1- A centre back and a full back doesn't quite sound so expensive - though obviously he can't play in both positions in the same line-up, (before someone points that out!!)


He's not really a modern full back though, he's a right back for a manager who used to like to play 4 centre halves (halfs?) in defence.

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Re: Good grief !

Postby evensteadiereddie » Wed May 22, 2019 6:37 pm

We probably will need an experienced CB as cover for when Tarks goes. He has to if he is serious about playing for England. I think 15 mill is far too much. The fee we get for Tarks has to be 30 mill, surely.

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Re: Good grief !

Postby Jimmymaccer » Wed May 22, 2019 6:37 pm

First Dates is on.............almost as funny as out of season gossip............

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Re: Good grief !

Postby jrgbfc » Wed May 22, 2019 6:50 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:We probably will need an experienced CB as cover for when Tarks goes. He has to if he is serious about playing for England. I think 15 mill is far too much. The fee we get for Tarks has to be 30 mill, surely.


Can't see Tarks playing for England anytime soon with Stones, Gomez, Maguire and Keane all ahead of him. Would need a pretty big injury crisis.

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Re: Good grief !

Postby Vino blanco » Wed May 22, 2019 9:10 pm

I think we should sign him so he can sit on the bench next to Gibson.

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Re: Good grief !

Postby Nonayforever » Wed May 22, 2019 10:03 pm

Hopefully we will put in an opening offer of £5m and wait until August before we raise the offer to £6m.

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Re: Good grief !

Postby tiger76 » Wed May 22, 2019 10:12 pm

mkmel wrote:I can't see him going to any of those clubs you mentioned

Leicester makes sense if they sell Maguire or maybe moneybags Wolves or poss Everton


Everton would be a good move for Tarks,he could team up with Keane again,and they are a club that develop players.

Let's be honest he has a much higher chance of an England call-up if he's playing at Goodison.

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Re: Good grief !

Postby The Enclosure » Wed May 22, 2019 11:22 pm

Never thought I would need to dust this off so early in the close season.

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Re: Good grief !

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Wed May 22, 2019 11:26 pm

ClaretTony wrote:We all know we tried very hard to get Dawson a year ago as well as back in 2014. Wouldn’t surprise me to still have an interest.

Not a dig. But why on earth would an apparently frugal club like ours need him with our current 'roster'...

Tarkowski
Long

Mee
Gibson

Dunne

Makes no sense. And if Tarks is leaving makes even less sense!

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Re: Good grief !

Postby boatshed bill » Wed May 22, 2019 11:43 pm

Guich wrote:If Tarks goes I wouldn't be unhappy with Ben Mee, Gibson and Dawson, with Long as well.

The way Tarks has played in parts of this season, if Gibson fulfils his promise I don't think we'd be weaker at all.


you are suggesting that Dawson is as good as Tarkowski, which is clearly not the case.

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Re: Good grief !

Postby fanzone » Thu May 23, 2019 5:56 am

IV changed my mind, I made a mistake I want to renew my season ticket again on hearing this news. Deary me how uninspiring

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Re: Good grief !

Postby taffy » Thu May 23, 2019 7:50 am

Would it not make more sense that this rumour came out of West brom, letting the football World know that he is available and only 12 months left on his contract and get in quick because Burnley want him
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