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Good grief ! - Dawson again

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 4:10 pm
by AndyClaret
Back in for Dawson at £15m !!!

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... ig-dawson/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 4:19 pm
by NottsClaret
Now it feels like summer.

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 4:20 pm
by ClaretAndJew
Mike Rigg there, rifling through Lee Darnborough's sent folder.

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 4:22 pm
by Lancasterclaret
22 May is really early for a panic buy but fair play!

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 4:22 pm
by Blackrod
Really is time to move on. Wonder if the new recruitment guy had much to do with this development. Let’s dust down those old player files and see what we can rekindle ...... I wonder what Derek Riordan is doing these days

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 4:24 pm
by Steve1956
Blackrod wrote:Really is time to move on. Wonder if the new recruitment guy had much to do with this development. Let’s dust down those old player files and see what we can rekindle ...... I wonder what Derek Riordan is doing these days
Not be long and he will be on level 3,000 on Candy crush....it's going to be a long summer with us all twiddling are thumbs

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 4:35 pm
by ClaretTony
We all know we tried very hard to get Dawson a year ago as well as back in 2014. Wouldn’t surprise me to still have an interest.

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 4:35 pm
by claretonthecoast1882
ClaretAndJew wrote:Mike Rigg there, rifling through Lee Darnborough's sent folder.

Or it could be Dyche has told different recruitment people this is a player he wants

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 4:38 pm
by ClaretTony
claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Or it could be Dyche has told different recruitment people this is a player he wants
Clearly is but for whatever reason some people just want to have a go at the club at any possible opportunity.

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 4:39 pm
by theroyaldyche
Surely we can do better

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 4:41 pm
by FactualFrank
It's the fee that bothers me, because that will no doubt be a huge chunk of our spending money. Unless Tarks is going and we'll only sell if we bring someone in first.

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 4:42 pm
by Jakubs Tash
ClaretTony wrote:We all know we tried very hard to get Dawson a year ago as well as back in 2014. Wouldn’t surprise me to still have an interest.
Agreed. Can see the logic (in going after a player long admired - not the position of centre half). If Dyche likes him and has done for a while and there's a chance to get him due to WBA's cost-cutting then get it done. But don't mess around trying to get him on the cheap all summer.

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 4:43 pm
by BurnleyPaul
Possibly Dyche is expecting Tarkowski to move and wants a replacement in before it happens.

Possibly Dyche is thinking that he wants to move to a 3-5-2 formation and he needs an extra CB to do so (thus allowing Dunne to have 12 months in the Championship next season to continue his development).

Possibly Dyche wants a bit of extra cover for RB but doesn’t want to use too much of his transfer budget to do so; this move could be a “2 for 1” option.

All I know is that if Dyche is so insistent on getting Dawson into the club then we should move heaven and earth to do it for him. He deserves our trust- he’s earned it the hard way over nearly SIX years!

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 4:45 pm
by Jakubs Tash
FactualFrank wrote:It's the fee that bothers me, because that will no doubt be a huge chunk of our spending money. Unless Tarks is going and we'll only sell if we bring someone in first.
I very much doubt we would pay £15m cash up front. I don't think there are many football transfers where the full 'deal' is paid up front....

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 4:45 pm
by claretonthecoast1882
If there is truth in this and we get him, then the manager will be happy. If there is no truth in this and the bed wetters get all frothy then the normal people will be happy due to be amused at them.

Anyone mentioned there would be no profit on the signing as that is how every signing should be judged.

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 4:45 pm
by jrgbfc
If it's true then it suggests one of our centre halves is on their way out. Probably Tarkowski but maybe Gibson.

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 4:51 pm
by wilks_bfc
Said it before and I’ll say it again

I wouldn’t believe anything from that source and would even double check the date they said it was

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 4:53 pm
by SGr
Honestly I think the only option is hire a hypnotist and get him to make Dyche forget that West Bromwich Albion FC exists. It’s the only way.

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 4:53 pm
by claretonthecoast1882
wilks_bfc wrote:Said it before and I’ll say it again

I wouldn’t believe anything from that source and would even double check the date they said it was

I wish I could remember the Wigan player or the Wigan fans name on twitter who asked the idiot if there was anything in the ***** rumour signing for Wigan, Nixon told him no nothing in it all, next minute the player is holding a scarf above his head in a shirt having signed and the lad was blocked.

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 4:54 pm
by jrgbfc
SGr wrote:Honestly I think the only option is hire a hypnotist and get him to make Dyche forget that West Bromwich Albion FC exists. It’s the only way.
Or for Dyche to realise there is a whole world of centre halves out there other than Craig Dawson.

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 4:57 pm
by ashtonlongsider
I personally think Dawson's been bang average in the Championship from what I've seen of him this year. Not sure how long he has left on his contract but £15m seems quite excessive IMO.

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 5:00 pm
by CoolClaret
Good player and can fill in across the back, no issues - 15 mill perhaps a little too much though

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 5:01 pm
by dsr
The Sun says that a bid is intended, not that it has been made. So presumably they've been talking to Sean Dyche and he has told them all his plans? Is that how he normally does it? Either that, or the Sun has made something up - surely not? :roll:

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 5:02 pm
by boyyanno
Why did we not just sign Dawson in the summer instead of Gibson?

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 5:02 pm
by Guich
If Tarks goes I wouldn't be unhappy with Ben Mee, Gibson and Dawson, with Long as well.

The way Tarks has played in parts of this season, if Gibson fulfils his promise I don't think we'd be weaker at all.

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 5:07 pm
by Reecey1987
ashtonlongsider wrote:I personally think Dawson's been bang average in the Championship from what I've seen of him this year. Not sure how long he has left on his contract but £15m seems quite excessive IMO.
1 year i think

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 5:11 pm
by Bosscat
Guich wrote:If Tarks goes I wouldn't be unhappy with Ben Mee, Gibson and Dawson, with Long as well.

The way Tarks has played in parts of this season, if Gibson fulfils his promise I don't think we'd be weaker at all.
Gibson though is left sided like Ben ... so isn't a swap for Tarka

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 5:12 pm
by nil_desperandum
Let's also bear in mind that Dawson has played quite a bit at right back, (an area that many consider to need strengthening), so it would give us an additional option / cover there.
2 for 1- A centre back and a full back doesn't quite sound so expensive - though obviously he can't play in both positions in the same line-up, (before someone points that out!!)

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 5:13 pm
by Rick_Muller
this is only ever going to happen if Tarks is on his way

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 5:13 pm
by Goobs
boyyanno wrote:Why did we not just sign Dawson in the summer instead of Gibson?
Probably because WBA didn't agree to the deal we offered them and therefore we couldn't offer him a contract?

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 5:13 pm
by nil_desperandum
Bosscat wrote:Gibson though is left sided like Ben ... so isn't a swap for Tarka
But Dawson is, and that's the point, we've already got Mee and Gibson on our books.

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:00 pm
by moaninclaret
Not Dawson please, sick of hearing his name mentioned, we can do much better than an average Championship CB like him, he isn't worth anywhere near the mentioned asking price, I wonder how long it will be before the Jay Rod saga will be re opened, leave well alone Sean.

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:14 pm
by AlargeClaret
Wouldn’t be at all surprised if Palace or Bournemouth or maybe Watford put a decent offer in for Tarky . Our style doesn’t really let his game develop . Though he’s mainly very good , he’s not the quickest and doesn’t really have goals in him . Still like him to stay though

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:19 pm
by wilks_bfc
AlargeClaret wrote:Wouldn’t be at all surprised if Palace or Bournemouth or maybe Watford put a decent offer in for Tarky . Our style doesn’t really let his game develop . Though he’s mainly very good , he’s not the quickest and doesn’t really have goals in him . Still like him to stay though
Would he want to go to those clubs or any club so far south though?
One of the reasons he pushed for a move from Brentford was for family reasons (his mum)

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:24 pm
by Quickenthetempo
West Brom fans laughing at us with the usual 'I will drive him there myself for 15m'.
'I will carry him on my back all the way there for that much'.

I can't see Garlick sanctioning 15m for a 29yr old with one year left on his contract. No resale value at all.

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:25 pm
by Colburn_Claret
I've nothing against Dawson, but we need to improve our starting XI.
Would Dawson displace any of our defence, would he improve it if he did.
No he would't.
It would be a complete waste of money. We desperately need to strengthen the midfield. The more we spend on benchwarmers, the less we have left, it's bloody simple really.

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:25 pm
by mkmel
AlargeClaret wrote:Wouldn’t be at all surprised if Palace or Bournemouth or maybe Watford put a decent offer in for Tarky . Our style doesn’t really let his game develop . Though he’s mainly very good , he’s not the quickest and doesn’t really have goals in him . Still like him to stay though
I can't see him going to any of those clubs you mentioned

Leicester makes sense if they sell Maguire or maybe moneybags Wolves or poss Everton

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:30 pm
by ksrclaret
Thank god Love Island is back soon

Anything to distract from following Burnley during a transfer window

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:31 pm
by aggi
nil_desperandum wrote:Let's also bear in mind that Dawson has played quite a bit at right back, (an area that many consider to need strengthening), so it would give us an additional option / cover there.
2 for 1- A centre back and a full back doesn't quite sound so expensive - though obviously he can't play in both positions in the same line-up, (before someone points that out!!)
He's not really a modern full back though, he's a right back for a manager who used to like to play 4 centre halves (halfs?) in defence.

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:37 pm
by evensteadiereddie
We probably will need an experienced CB as cover for when Tarks goes. He has to if he is serious about playing for England. I think 15 mill is far too much. The fee we get for Tarks has to be 30 mill, surely.

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:37 pm
by Jimmymaccer
First Dates is on.............almost as funny as out of season gossip............

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:50 pm
by jrgbfc
evensteadiereddie wrote:We probably will need an experienced CB as cover for when Tarks goes. He has to if he is serious about playing for England. I think 15 mill is far too much. The fee we get for Tarks has to be 30 mill, surely.
Can't see Tarks playing for England anytime soon with Stones, Gomez, Maguire and Keane all ahead of him. Would need a pretty big injury crisis.

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 9:10 pm
by Vino blanco
I think we should sign him so he can sit on the bench next to Gibson.

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 10:03 pm
by Nonayforever
Hopefully we will put in an opening offer of £5m and wait until August before we raise the offer to £6m.

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 10:12 pm
by tiger76
mkmel wrote:I can't see him going to any of those clubs you mentioned

Leicester makes sense if they sell Maguire or maybe moneybags Wolves or poss Everton
Everton would be a good move for Tarks,he could team up with Keane again,and they are a club that develop players.

Let's be honest he has a much higher chance of an England call-up if he's playing at Goodison.

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 11:22 pm
by The Enclosure
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 11:26 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
ClaretTony wrote:We all know we tried very hard to get Dawson a year ago as well as back in 2014. Wouldn’t surprise me to still have an interest.
Not a dig. But why on earth would an apparently frugal club like ours need him with our current 'roster'...

Tarkowski
Long

Mee
Gibson

Dunne

Makes no sense. And if Tarks is leaving makes even less sense!

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 11:43 pm
by boatshed bill
Guich wrote:If Tarks goes I wouldn't be unhappy with Ben Mee, Gibson and Dawson, with Long as well.

The way Tarks has played in parts of this season, if Gibson fulfils his promise I don't think we'd be weaker at all.
you are suggesting that Dawson is as good as Tarkowski, which is clearly not the case.

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Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 5:56 am
by fanzone
IV changed my mind, I made a mistake I want to renew my season ticket again on hearing this news. Deary me how uninspiring

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Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 7:50 am
by taffy
Would it not make more sense that this rumour came out of West brom, letting the football World know that he is available and only 12 months left on his contract and get in quick because Burnley want him