M25 murderer set to be released

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M25 murderer set to be released

Post by Blackrod » Wed May 22, 2019 8:11 pm

Stabbed a man in cold blooded murder in 1996 in front of his fiancé and then went on the run. Spent a lifetime around criminal organisations when not inside. A good decision ? The parole board says he is no longer a risk to the public. Can we believe them ? What will this murderer now offer to society ?
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Re: M25 murderer set to be released

Post by bobinho » Wed May 22, 2019 8:12 pm

No.
No.
Nothing.

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Re: M25 murderer set to be released

Post by Devils_Advocate » Wed May 22, 2019 8:26 pm

Hopefully he'll be able to support himself and contribute positively to society rather than sat in a cell eating up our tax revenues

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Re: M25 murderer set to be released

Post by bobinho » Wed May 22, 2019 8:31 pm

Let ‘em ALL out then....

Sorted. :roll:

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Wed May 22, 2019 8:37 pm

If, on the day he dies, he has proved to have been no further danger to the public and has lived an honest life, would you still be angry about the decision?

Genuine question. I’m not supporting the decision, I don’t have all the facts.

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Re: M25 murderer set to be released

Post by Wile E Coyote » Wed May 22, 2019 8:40 pm

killed at least twice, and one simply as a result of a dispute about driving .****.

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Post by joey13 » Wed May 22, 2019 8:41 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:If, on the day he dies, he has proved to have been no further danger to the public and has lived an honest life, would you still be angry about the decision?

Genuine question. I’m not supporting the decision, I don’t have all the facts.
If you haven’t got all the facts , don’t comment
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Re: M25 murderer set to be released

Post by conyoviejo » Wed May 22, 2019 8:43 pm

I'm all for giving people a second chance ,but I don't think I would give this guy a third chance..

"Kenneth James Noye (born 24 May 1947) is an English criminal who is serving a life sentence for murdering Stephen Cameron in a road rage incident while on licence from prison in 1996. He was convicted of the crime four years later."
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Re: M25 murderer set to be released

Post by TheFamilyCat » Wed May 22, 2019 8:44 pm

joey13 wrote:If you haven’t got all the facts , don’t comment
I asked a question rather than commenting. I’d also add that not a single poster on this board has all the facts, so why single me out?

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Post by joey13 » Wed May 22, 2019 8:45 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:I asked a question rather than commenting. I’d also add that not a single poster on this board has all the facts, so why single me out?
Ok fair enough

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Re: M25 murderer set to be released

Post by WestMidsClaret » Wed May 22, 2019 8:48 pm

I doubt very much that people like that can ever change no matter what. To do what he did in the first place and then to take the subsequent actions he did tells me he'd never have real remorse.

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Re: M25 murderer set to be released

Post by bfcjg » Wed May 22, 2019 8:55 pm

The parole board have such an amazing track record....oh hang on.
No deterrent life in a harsh prison is a deterrent. Bread and water in a room with an open toilet. Punishment and cheap.

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Re: M25 murderer set to be released

Post by WestMidsClaret » Wed May 22, 2019 8:57 pm

Didn't something happen to an eyewitness too? Sure I read somewhere at some point an eyewitness was killed.

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Re: M25 murderer set to be released

Post by Steve1956 » Wed May 22, 2019 8:59 pm

Crap idea letting a career criminal free,and a murdering one at that.

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Re: M25 murderer set to be released

Post by theroyaldyche » Wed May 22, 2019 9:19 pm

Hes done his time

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Post by Wokingclaret » Wed May 22, 2019 9:39 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:Hes done his time
The chap that was murdered will never complete his time

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Re: M25 murderer set to be released

Post by Darnhill Claret » Wed May 22, 2019 9:51 pm

I’m surprised that some seem to know very little about Kenny Noye. One of the most notorious villains of recent times. I’ll let you google him so that you can get educated. He’s a very dangerous man and violence is second nature to him. Surprised he wasn’t rearrested on his release. I can only imagine that the police haven’t been able to link him with more unsolved cases. This will not be the last we hear of Kenneth Noye.

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Post by Damo » Wed May 22, 2019 10:05 pm

Darnhill Claret wrote:I’m surprised that some seem to know very little about Kenny Noye. One of the most notorious villains of recent times. I’ll let you google him so that you can get educated. He’s a very dangerous man and violence is second nature to him. Surprised he wasn’t rearrested on his release. I can only imagine that the police haven’t been able to link him with more unsolved cases. This will not be the last we hear of Kenneth Noye.
I read a book about him a few years ago.
Hes a serious criminal.
Laundered the Brinks mat gold.
Killed a police man and got away with it.
If they made a film about the things he had done, people would think it was too far fetched

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Re: M25 murderer set to be released

Post by Steve1956 » Wed May 22, 2019 10:17 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:Hes done his time
Come on mate,he hasn't done half his time yet, he knifed that kid to death in Cold blood,Noye is a very dangerous man it wouldn't surprise me if he hadn't got his next caper already planned.

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Re: M25 murderer set to be released

Post by Darnhill Claret » Wed May 22, 2019 10:19 pm

That’s right and likely that he has rubbed out one or two others. Even managed to be considered a suspect for the Jill Dando killing but the Serbians now considered to be the most likely culprits. But his notoriety knows no bounds.

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Post by theroyaldyche » Thu May 23, 2019 8:27 am

Steve1956 wrote:Come on mate,he hasn't done half his time yet, he knifed that kid to death in Cold blood,Noye is a very dangerous man it wouldn't surprise me if he hadn't got his next caper already planned.
Il put me rod away

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Re: M25 murderer set to be released

Post by Steve1956 » Thu May 23, 2019 9:19 am

theroyaldyche wrote:Il put me rod away
It's for the best! :D

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Re: M25 murderer set to be released

Post by Pstotto » Thu May 23, 2019 9:19 am

Went I was at art school there was a bloke who was on day release from prison as a first stage to rehabilitation, mingling with art students, art schools the depository now for the parole board, no kidding. In the 70's he was part of a South London criminal gang and was sent down when an off-duty policeman was shot dead in an armed robbery. He'd served over 20 years in jail. I used to have coffee with him now and again at break. Anyway he got released and then a few months later he was arrested for the biggest cocaine haul in Irish history as part of one of the biggest international criminal gangs in London. Someone put the wrong fuel in the boat by mistake and someone drowned trying to offload the stuff from a dinghy. He was sent down for a further 34 years.

Nuff said.

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Re: M25 murderer set to be released

Post by Billy Balfour » Thu May 23, 2019 10:23 am

Some people deserve a whole life tariff (with no parole) and he's one of them.

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Re: M25 murderer set to be released

Post by Burnley1989 » Thu May 23, 2019 10:25 am

Charles Bronson on the other hand will never step foot on soil again and he hasn’t killed anyone. Not that he isn’t an extremely dangerous man

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Re: M25 murderer set to be released

Post by Lord Beamish » Thu May 23, 2019 10:39 am

Just pure speculation, but i do wonder if Mr Noye is terminally ill.

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Re: M25 murderer set to be released

Post by Stayingup » Thu May 23, 2019 10:41 am

A noted criminal and gangster before he committed this atrocity. Pity we dont have the death penalty for murder. Wouldn't cost us then would he.

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Post by Stayingup » Thu May 23, 2019 10:41 am

Lord Beamish wrote:Just pure speculation, but i do wonder if Mr Noye is terminally ill.
Are you for real or what?

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Re: M25 murderer set to be released

Post by Steve1956 » Thu May 23, 2019 10:42 am

Lord Beamish wrote:Just pure speculation, but i do wonder if Mr Noye is terminally ill.
Shouldn't make a jot of difference, wasn't the Lockerbie bomber released cause he had cancer and lived for ages when we let him go,they should die in prison these guys no compassion for their victims why should we be compassionate to them .

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Re: M25 murderer set to be released

Post by Lord Beamish » Thu May 23, 2019 12:15 pm

Stayingup wrote:Are you for real or what?
You do realise that I didn’t give a value judgement on that, don’t you? It was just a speculation.

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Post by keith1879 » Thu May 23, 2019 12:26 pm

On the one hand he is now 71 ....so physically and (perhaps) mentally entering a different phase of life. On the other he has been considered and turned down for parole at least once previously (in 2015) and the reasons for refusal looked unlikely to change in just a few years. Quite a bit on the BBC news site for those interested.

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Re: M25 murderer set to be released

Post by LoveCurryPies » Thu May 23, 2019 12:28 pm

Murderers are released everyday.

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Post by Blackrod » Thu May 23, 2019 1:52 pm

Lord Beamish wrote:Just pure speculation, but i do wonder if Mr Noye is terminally ill.
Many WW2 war criminals got off early on these grounds and shouldn’t have done.

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Re: M25 murderer set to be released

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu May 23, 2019 2:01 pm

The prisons are full and without any new big ones getting built, this will happen all over the country.

Especially with the population increasing year on year.

The death penalty will have to come back.

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Re: M25 murderer set to be released

Post by claretnproud » Thu May 23, 2019 4:01 pm

Noye is a nasty nasty piece of work and career criminal. Our country is the worse for letting criminals like him out. Several children have no father due to this piece of cr-p.

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Post by Hipper » Thu May 23, 2019 4:29 pm

We have of course to trust the parole board on this.

I'm interested in how he will finance his retirement.

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Post by tim_noone » Fri May 24, 2019 12:47 am

Hipper wrote:We have of course to trust the parole board on this.

I'm interested in how he will finance his retirement.
Have they done away with his old age pension?

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Re: M25 murderer set to be released

Post by AfloatinClaret » Fri May 24, 2019 3:03 am

conyoviejo wrote:I'm all for giving people a second chance ,but I don't think I would give this guy a third chance..

"Kenneth James Noye (born 24 May 1947) is an English criminal who is serving a life sentence with a recommendation that he serve a minimum 16 years for murdering Stephen Cameron in a road rage incident while on licence from prison in 1996. He was convicted of the crime four years later."
A bit that perhaps wasn't included in your source. went down in 2000 so he must've served eighteen or nineteen, any other murder indeed all previous actual or alleged crimes are irrelevant, they weren't what he was sentenced for; how old is he now, in his seventies I'd guess? Done the crime and now his time, it seems only fair to let him out on parole.

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Post by Suratclaret » Fri May 24, 2019 5:06 am

AfloatinClaret wrote:A bit that perhaps wasn't included in your source. went down in 2000 so he must've served eighteen or nineteen, any other murder indeed all previous actual or alleged crimes are irrelevant, they weren't what he was sentenced for; how old is he now, in his seventies I'd guess? Done the crime and now his time, it seems only fair to let him out on parole.
Not strictly true as previous convictions are taken into account by the Court and also, most importantly, any risk assessment is also based on many factors including past behaviour. A risk assessment would have been prepared at various points through his sentence as well as pre sentencing. All parole applications will include an up to date assessment of risk both of harm to the public and of the likelihood of further offending.

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Re: M25 murderer set to be released

Post by Darnhill Claret » Fri May 24, 2019 12:34 pm

Kenny Noye was never ‘fair’ with people he didn’t get on with. Karma will hopefully catch up with him.

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