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Re: May quits

Post by arise_sir_charge » Fri May 24, 2019 11:20 am

My Money would be on Dominic Raab.

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Re: May quits

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri May 24, 2019 11:23 am

She will be remembered for losing the files to the pedo rings.
Destroying the Police force.
Bending over backwards to the EU and making a pigs ear of Brexit.

The only good thing she did was hold Donald Trumps hand so he didn't fall down the steps.

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Re: May quits

Post by aggi » Fri May 24, 2019 11:25 am

dsr wrote:It'll have to be a Brexiteer for the sake of the Tory party. Because all those votes that have defected to the Brexit party - if there isn't a Brexit supporter at the helm when the next general election comes round, then many of them won't come back.

I expect it will be Boris. The MPs won't dare to leave him off the final two ballot (unless they can find a bit of dirty on him, and they can find a suitable Brexiteer candidate to put on the paper) and he would win the members' vote. If not him, then either Javid or Raab.
And there's the issue. A load of this **** has come about because actions were being done for the sake of the Tory Party and the fear of its members rather than because it was best for the country.
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Re: May quits

Post by Juxtaposition » Fri May 24, 2019 11:27 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
The only good thing she did was hold Donald Trumps hand so he didn't fall down the steps.
Just another reason to hate her.
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Re: May quits

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri May 24, 2019 11:29 am

Juxtaposition wrote:Just another reason to hate her.
That's how to set the bait to out Charlie.
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Re: May quits

Post by Blackrod » Fri May 24, 2019 11:29 am

ClaretTony wrote:And there was me thinking she was the best woman PM we'd ever had
Preferred Maggie Thatcher myself.
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Re: May quits

Post by IanMcL » Fri May 24, 2019 11:30 am

Another inadequate Tory leader, who will be replaced by an inadequate Tory leader.

Tories prove themselves to be ruthless, when it comes to self preservation.

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Re: May quits

Post by Goobs » Fri May 24, 2019 11:33 am

We've got one set of people seen in the streets of Burnley on Tuesday singing Oh Tommy Tommy,
Another lot that sign Ohhhhhh Jeremy Corbyn,
Next we'll have a third lot singing Let's go BoJo Let's Go!

Who needs football for the summer when you can replace it with Politics and potential for Anarchy? :D

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Re: May quits

Post by Blackrod » Fri May 24, 2019 11:36 am

Bordeauxclaret wrote:She’s been a complete embarrassment from start to finish.
Ridiculous
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Re: May quits

Post by Blackrod » Fri May 24, 2019 11:37 am

Not much would make me vote Labour but if Amber Rudd became PM I would have to consider it.

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Re: May quits

Post by FactualFrank » Fri May 24, 2019 11:38 am

Choosing who should be the next leader is a bit like choosing an STD.

They're all unpleasant, some worse than others, but you don't want any of them.
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Re: May quits

Post by IanMcL » Fri May 24, 2019 11:39 am

Penicillin should see them off!

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Re: May quits

Post by nil_desperandum » Fri May 24, 2019 11:40 am

For anyone who is tempted to have sympathy for her, this article is worth a read. It reminds us of all her many failings, (not just brexit) and pretty much sums up my feelings and those of many. However the final paragraph is the bit that nails it.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/br ... 26876.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: May quits

Post by AndrewJB » Fri May 24, 2019 11:46 am

Thomas G Clark from the Another Angry Voice blog wrote up a very moving piece:

https://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.com/ ... -pity.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: May quits

Post by fatboy47 » Fri May 24, 2019 11:46 am

Caballo wrote:I'm no May fan but that's a touch unfair, when you're handed a sh1t sandwich I'd imagine no amount of seasoning will make it taste nice.

she wasn't handed a sh1t sandwich....she grabbed it with both hands.

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Re: May quits

Post by brigante » Fri May 24, 2019 11:56 am

Awful politician, awful policies before being PM, awful handling of Brexit situation, awful party management and awful prime minister.

Her time in office will rightly be remembered as one of the worst in history.
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Re: May quits

Post by dsr » Fri May 24, 2019 12:02 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:For anyone who is tempted to have sympathy for her, this article is worth a read. It reminds us of all her many failings, (not just brexit) and pretty much sums up my feelings and those of many. However the final paragraph is the bit that nails it.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/br ... 26876.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It's got the usual thing which is much more prevalent among the left, that the writer thinks she is evil rather than just wrong. OK, she disagrees with the writer; she disagrees with lots of people including me. So do many politicians - Corbyn, for example. But I bet there are a lot more people willing to believe that May is evil than there are willing to believe that Corbyn is evil - just as there were many more willing to believe Thatcher was evil and Kinnock wasn't.

Which leads to milkshakes, disregard of referenda, and other anti-democratic behaviour. Some people need to accept that, as the BBC might put it, "other opinions are available".

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Re: May quits

Post by tim_noone » Fri May 24, 2019 12:04 pm

Steve1956 wrote:"The country I love"...... Which I have truly Fuccked up! :lol:
Don't you worry yourself ....Scotland's your home now. :D

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Re: May quits

Post by tim_noone » Fri May 24, 2019 12:06 pm

brigante wrote:Awful politician, awful policies before being PM, awful handling of Brexit situation, awful party management and awful prime minister.

Her time in office will rightly be remembered as one of the worst in history.
Talks cheap....put yourself forward.

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Re: May quits

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri May 24, 2019 12:14 pm

tim_noone wrote:Talks cheap....put yourself forward.
Could be tough, I'm not sure he's in the running.

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Re: May quits

Post by Billy Balfour » Fri May 24, 2019 12:21 pm

I know she's been dealt a crap hand and that leading the Tories in govt is akin to herding cats, but she should have gone two years ago when she gambled and lost a Tory majority.

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Re: May quits

Post by SalisburyClaret » Fri May 24, 2019 12:22 pm

In years to come the Tories will be able to look back at this as the moment they ceased to be a power in British politics
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Re: May quits

Post by Claret-On-A-T-Rex » Fri May 24, 2019 12:37 pm

"Britain is leaving the European Union" She said. Now she's left and Britain is still in.

Good riddance, worst Prime Minister in history, she's been a complete embarrassment from start to finish.

Here comes the next one, I'm hoping for Boris Johnson now to finally put the nails in the coffins of the Tory Party and Brexit.

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Re: May quits

Post by Claret-On-A-T-Rex » Fri May 24, 2019 12:58 pm

Brexit 2 Tory Prime Ministers 0

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Re: May quits

Post by If it be your will » Fri May 24, 2019 1:09 pm

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Re: May quits

Post by Top Claret » Fri May 24, 2019 1:16 pm

How anyone can compare May with Thatcher needs their head looking at. Thatcher was the best PM in my lifetime and I am nearly 60. May will go down has a complete failure and will only be remembered for totally screwing up the Brexit negotiations.

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Re: May quits

Post by brigante » Fri May 24, 2019 1:32 pm

tim_noone wrote:Talks cheap....put yourself forward.
I don’t have to believe I can be better, but that somebody else could. That’s the joy of democracy.

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Re: May quits

Post by tim_noone » Fri May 24, 2019 1:41 pm

brigante wrote:I don’t have to believe I can be better, but that somebody else could. That’s the joy of democracy.
Name.....?as opposed to anyone will do.

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Re: May quits

Post by timshorts » Fri May 24, 2019 1:45 pm

Blackrod wrote:Not much would make me vote Labour but if Amber Rudd became PM I would have to consider it.
Welcome to Hastings.

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Re: May quits

Post by Steve1956 » Fri May 24, 2019 2:40 pm

tim_noone wrote:Don't you worry yourself ....Scotland's your home now. :D
I'm a brexiteer,but Scotland will be independent soon and we will be back in the EU,interesting times ahead up here,it's going to be fun. ;)
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Re: May quits

Post by Steve1956 » Fri May 24, 2019 2:52 pm

Blackrod wrote:Not much would make me vote Labour but if Amber Rudd became PM I would have to consider it.
What about that Ester McVey,the thought of that winning thing going on at us is far worse than Rudd,looking at the candidates they are all fecking buffons to be honest, politics has no character's anymore

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Re: May quits

Post by tim_noone » Fri May 24, 2019 3:12 pm

tim_noone wrote:Name.....?as opposed to anyone will do.
Take your time...

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Re: May quits

Post by LeadBelly » Fri May 24, 2019 3:13 pm

Plenty of people now coming out with statements saying things like "I want to pay tribute", "her values of integrity, commitment... outstanding", "served with dignity...." even from Barnier "I would like to express my full respect..."

I've heard a few honest quotes along the lines of....Should have gone ages ago, Never up to the job etc but overall there's a huge amount of hypocrisy being spouted.

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Re: May quits

Post by willsclarets » Fri May 24, 2019 3:17 pm

brigante wrote:Awful politician, awful policies before being PM, awful handling of Brexit situation, awful party management and awful prime minister.

Her time in office will rightly be remembered as one of the worst in history.
I don't disagree as such but I think David Cameron is getting off very lightly in all this.
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Re: May quits

Post by claret_in_exile » Fri May 24, 2019 3:18 pm

I actually feel very bad for her. I think she served out of a sense of patriotic duty and felt she was the only one who could deliver Brexit without it being a disaster. She was wrong, sadly, but I think that's because of the behavior of both sides of Parliament, to be honest. I think people forget that she voted to Remain.

I don't ally myself with the Tories at all, but who is any better? The Tories will inevitably elect a hardcore Brexiteer next who will have absolutely zero chance of getting anything passed through Parliament and will be inclined to allow a hard Brexit by default in October - which would be a disaster for the country.

I know this will be unpopular to say, but I don't think this is good news for the country at all, save for those who feel a hard Brexit is a good idea.

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Re: May quits

Post by Dark Cloud » Fri May 24, 2019 3:29 pm

I'm not a massively political animal and I tend not to comment on political threads, but I do feel rather sorry for the ill dressed frumpy old bird. To me she inherited a no win situation, made worse by those on all sides around her who have been deliberately awkward and self serving, but she's stuck at it far longer than most would have. IMO it wouldn't have mattered who was in the job and it wont matter who takes over, they are pretty much destined to fail in the current climate.

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Re: May quits

Post by Goodclaret » Fri May 24, 2019 3:35 pm

Awwwww, I'm going to miss her dancing.

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Re: May quits

Post by jrgbfc » Fri May 24, 2019 3:37 pm

Hard to feel sorry for the woman who was behind the deportation of hundreds of British citizens who'd lived here all their lives, or sent round vans telling foreign people to "go home". As well as the shocking cuts to the police force and the misery she and her party have inflicted on the poorest in our society. Have I missed anything else?
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Re: May quits

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri May 24, 2019 3:38 pm

The new PM doesn't have to go through Parliament at all if he or she wants a No deal Brexit.
Just simply wind the clock down until October.

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Re: May quits

Post by boatshed bill » Fri May 24, 2019 3:39 pm

If someone (Cameron) offers you a shitty stick you don't have to take it.
She's going to go down in history as one of our worst ever PMs, and deserves to.

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Re: May quits

Post by mkmel » Fri May 24, 2019 3:40 pm

Blackrod wrote:Ridiculous
Yes she has been ridiculous too :lol:

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Re: May quits

Post by Murger » Fri May 24, 2019 3:43 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:I'm not a massively political animal and I tend not to comment on political threads, but I do feel rather sorry for the ill dressed frumpy old bird. To me she inherited a no win situation, made worse by those on all sides around her who have been deliberately awkward and self serving, but she's stuck at it far longer than most would have. IMO it wouldn't have mattered who was in the job and it wont matter who takes over, they are pretty much destined to fail in the current climate.
She didn't inherit it. She chose to take it on.
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Post by Taffy on the wing » Fri May 24, 2019 3:54 pm

ClaretTony wrote:And there was me thinking she was the best woman PM we'd ever had
I sincerely hope that was a joke Tony!

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Re: May quits

Post by Dark Cloud » Fri May 24, 2019 3:59 pm

Murger wrote:She didn't inherit it. She chose to take it on.
Fair point, but surely not many others fancied it and they knew exactly what a poisoned chalice it was, so fair play to her for having a go and also for sticking it so long in the face of plenty of abuse and obstruction. Taking it on when she did was tantamount to political suicide and others wouldn't stick their heads up. May's not been great by any stretch of the imagination, but as I said I don't think anyone would have been, or indeed will be. (Because accepting it is STILL pretty much political doom!)

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Re: May quits

Post by boatshed bill » Fri May 24, 2019 4:05 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:I sincerely hope that was a joke Tony!
It's true, one of our best female PMs, in fact I'd say joint top! :D
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Re: May quits

Post by Taffy on the wing » Fri May 24, 2019 4:09 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Steer clear of politics. But got to feel for her. Poisoned chalice and whiever steps in will be subject to the same pressures, problems and ridicule.

Must have aged her 20 years.

Wouldnt do it for 10 million.
FFS!.......How can you feel sorry for this vicious ****?

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Re: May quits

Post by nil_desperandum » Fri May 24, 2019 4:21 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:The new PM doesn't have to go through Parliament at all if he or she wants a No deal Brexit.
Just simply wind the clock down until October.
Theoretically yes, but in practice - no.
The numbers in Parliament won't change until there's a general election.
If it gets toward the end of October and "no deal" looks like the default position, then MPs will take it into their own hands, as they did with May, and if the PM / cabinet don't listen, then there'd be sufficient numbers to defeat the PM in a vote of confidence. There are a small hardcore of Tories with loud voices shouting for no deal / WTO trading terms, but they are outnumbered massively by other Tory MPs who know that a "no deal" would be ruinous for jobs in their constituencies and the economy as a whole, and they would use every means possible to avoid the financial calamity of "no deal", ensure our national security and preserve the Belfast Agreement, (which at the end of the day is an International Treaty to which we are signatories).

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Re: May quits

Post by houseboy » Fri May 24, 2019 4:28 pm

Juxtaposition wrote:When the gods wish to punish us they answer our prayers.
Those who the gods wish to destroy they first make mad.

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Re: May quits

Post by RingoMcCartney » Fri May 24, 2019 4:40 pm

"May quits"





What!? She actually started!?

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Re: May quits

Post by Stayingup » Fri May 24, 2019 4:42 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:Typically simplistic brexit thinking. How will the mathematics in Parliament change between now and the end of October?. Whoever becomes leader the maths against "no deal" will still be the same, and there's no chance now (I assume) of a general election in the interim period, since the Tories will be fighting a leadership campaign.
There could well ne a general election now. If I was in opposition I wpuld demand it.

One good thing about this is that the useless, negative Hammond will go too. .

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