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Re: European Election Results .. due from 10 p.m. Sunday night...,

Post by Swizzlestick » Sun May 26, 2019 8:47 pm

Party may be new to the scene but Farage certainly isn’t. More’s the pity....

They had a lot of easy votes to attract from disillusioned Brexiteers and have barely improved on his UKIP days.

This is based on the poll only obviously, they could easily have done much better considering the absolute polling shitshow from the last GE.

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Post by TonbridgeClaret » Sun May 26, 2019 8:58 pm

Farage was saying earlier that he thought the Brexit Party would get 35%. That would be an amazing result.

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Post by Clarets4me » Sun May 26, 2019 9:13 pm

Burnley Prediction ...

Labour 5.2k
Brexit 5.1k
Lib Dem 3.5k
Con 2.9k
Green 2.2k
UKIP 1.8k
Tommy R 800

Anyone else want to have a go ? ;)

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Post by tiger76 » Sun May 26, 2019 9:21 pm

TonbridgeClaret wrote:Farage was saying earlier that he thought the Brexit Party would get 35%. That would be an amazing result.
The BP will be weakest in London and Scotland which might drag their UK % down,but even in those regions they should eclipse the UKIP vote from 2014,it's important that they poll above 30% for psychological reasons,if they do and break 5 million votes they will have had a good night.

Lib Dems are sounding bullish on social media,and they could well beat Labour into 2nd,Tories doing slightly better than the doom mongers predicted,but i never thought they would poll 7% in a nationwide election,they should get around 10% which will be enough for a seat in most regions.

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Post by nil_desperandum » Sun May 26, 2019 9:36 pm

Rowls wrote:Winning an election by 12-14% only 6 weeks after setting up the party would be 'disappointing'?

I think it's amazing.
At the end of the day it's basically one "no compromise" brexit party v the rest, so if you want a "no deal" brexit then you vote for Brexit Party. (Pretty simple really)
Farage's party had a very simple uncomplicated message, and being new had no "broken promises" or "bad history". In similar circumstances Macron actually gained power in France.
Anything less than 33% on a (38% ?) turnout will be pretty poor tbh compared to the 17 million + who voted "leave" in 2016, and it will hopefully make any MPs considering switching to "no deal" think again.
Looks like Confirmatory Vote Parties, (Libs, Greens, Labour, SNP, Plaid etc) won't be far short of 50%. [This pretty much mirrors the numbers of MPs in the commons (280) who supported this in indicative votes]

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Post by Right_winger » Sun May 26, 2019 9:37 pm

Rumours have it in France that Le Pen has beaten Macron.

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Post by randomclaret2 » Sun May 26, 2019 9:42 pm

Labour is a ' confirmatory vote ' party ? Really ?

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Post by randomclaret2 » Sun May 26, 2019 9:44 pm

If the 'confirmatory vote' parties lose their 'confirmatory' vote will they demand another 'confirmatory' vote ?

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Post by TonbridgeClaret » Sun May 26, 2019 9:46 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:Labour is a ' confirmatory vote ' party ? Really ?
Yes, I spotted that too. Depending on which poll you believe, anywhere between 26% and 35% of Labour voters wanted Brexit.

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Post by nil_desperandum » Sun May 26, 2019 9:48 pm

Right_winger wrote:Rumours have it in France that Le Pen has beaten Macron.
That's not much of a surprise and was forecast. As in the UK, there are a lot of other parties that stand on a broadly pro-EU platform, whilst Le Pen's Party are distinctly eurosceptic.
It's predicted that she will get about 24% to Macron's 22%, so a long way from sending a majority of MEPs to the Parliament

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun May 26, 2019 9:51 pm

TonbridgeClaret wrote:Yes, I spotted that too. Depending on which poll you believe, anywhere between 26% and 35% of Labour voters wanted Brexit.
That would mean between 65% and 74% don't.

I'm not an expert on this, but that does suggest its less Brexity than your average party.

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Post by wembley94 » Sun May 26, 2019 9:51 pm

Labour Party should be miles a head.stand up Jeremy Corbyn. to take a bow

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Post by nil_desperandum » Sun May 26, 2019 9:57 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:Labour is a ' confirmatory vote ' party ? Really ?
Well that's their policy yes. It was agreed at Party Conference and Corbyn confirmed it in his interview with Andrew Marr last week. This, I think, is why Labour appear to have held the Lib Dems at bay, (relatively speaking).
In case you missed it:
"Labour leader Corbyn went further than before in his support for a second referendum, saying the public should get a confirmatory vote on his party’s own Brexit deal, not just May’s. He told BBC’s Andrew Marr show that it would be reasonable to put any Brexit deal to a vote.

“If we can get that through Parliament -- the proposals we’ve put -- then I think it would be reasonable to have a public vote to decide on that in the future,” Corbyn said.

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Post by nil_desperandum » Sun May 26, 2019 10:04 pm

TonbridgeClaret wrote:Yes, I spotted that too. Depending on which poll you believe, anywhere between 26% and 35% of Labour voters wanted Brexit.
So basically between 2/3rds and 3/4s don't want to leave, and a larger majority of actual members. So which way do you think Corbyn and the executive should swing?

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Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sun May 26, 2019 10:07 pm

wembley94 wrote:Labour Party should be miles a head.stand up Jeremy Corbyn. to take a bow
Sadly this is spot on. Tories have been inept for years. Labour should be wiping the floor with them.

They really need a big change.
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Post by taio » Sun May 26, 2019 10:07 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:So basically between 2/3rds and 3/4s don't want to leave, and a larger majority of actual members. So which way do you think Corbyn and the executive should swing?
Makes you wonder why Corbyn has been so non-committal. I can't think why.
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Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun May 26, 2019 10:10 pm

Brexit party get the first count in Leeds

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun May 26, 2019 10:15 pm

Labour 4th in Sheffield!

https://twitter.com/britainelects/statu ... 3646341121" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Big thing there is Green + Lib Dems on 43%

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun May 26, 2019 10:17 pm

Cardiff

Lab 4th again, but huge remain majority again

https://twitter.com/cardiffcouncil/stat ... 7505384448" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by Venkys4eva » Sun May 26, 2019 10:18 pm

Brexit party well on course - fantastic

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun May 26, 2019 10:19 pm

Looks like Lab are hemorrhaging votes in the North and Midlands to the Brexit Party, and doing exactly the same in the south to the Lib Dems.

Corbyn ****** this big style.

Goes without saying the Conservatives are nowhere as well

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Post by tim_noone » Sun May 26, 2019 10:24 pm

How's tommy doing??

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Post by tiger76 » Sun May 26, 2019 10:24 pm

Brexit showing strongly but the Greens performing well also,Labour putting champagne socialist Emily Thornberry on FGS do they want to alienate their working-class voters even more.

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun May 26, 2019 10:25 pm

Brexit party romping home at the minute.

Sour faced Emily Thornberry seething on the BBC.

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Post by CombatClaret » Sun May 26, 2019 10:26 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Looks like Lab are hemorrhaging votes in the North and Midlands to the Brexit Party, and doing exactly the same in the south to the Lib Dems.
Corbyn ****** this big style.
Even If Labour back remain it will be too late to appear sincere...
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Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun May 26, 2019 10:29 pm

Tim, I don't know how Robinson is doing, and I don't give a **** either.
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Post by nil_desperandum » Sun May 26, 2019 10:29 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:Brexit party romping home at the minute.
.
They're miles short of the 52% that they should be getting. Seriously if you want brexit who else could you vote for?

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun May 26, 2019 10:30 pm

tim_noone wrote:How's tommy doing??
He's enjoying a milkshake in McDonald's celebrating Labour getting a kicking.
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Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun May 26, 2019 10:30 pm

CombatClaret wrote:Even If Labour back remain it will be too late to appear sincere...
Yup, they have handed this on a plate to the Lib Dems, Greens and Nationalists.

They could really struggle in a GE now

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Post by tiger76 » Sun May 26, 2019 10:31 pm

Brexit getting 2 MEP'S in Labour's North East heartland,WOW!,UKIP close to beating the Tories there also.

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun May 26, 2019 10:33 pm

Be interesting to see if any of the channels can take their head out of Farages arse long enough to notice the surges of support for Lib Dems and Greens.

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Post by tiger76 » Sun May 26, 2019 10:34 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Yup, they have handed this on a plate to the Lib Dems, Greens and Nationalists.

They could really struggle in a GE now
If a GE is held in the next 12 months,the Lib Dems have a real chance of being kingmakers.

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun May 26, 2019 10:35 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:They're miles short of the 52% that they should be getting. Seriously if you want brexit who else could you vote for?
UKIP are still getting a little share.

I thought the Greens would of done a bit better.

There's still some who will vote for Labour or the Tories so 52% is fantasy land.

40% would be amazing for a new party.

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Post by CombatClaret » Sun May 26, 2019 10:35 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Be interesting to see if any of the channels can take their head out of Farages arse long enough to notice the surges of support for Lib Dems and Greens.
No chance, focus on the man who can say whatever he likes knowing he'll never have to personally deliver.

2nd story will be Labour collapse to Lib Dems and Greens

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Post by thatdberight » Sun May 26, 2019 10:37 pm

It's going to be useless whatever happens. Brexit could win or do well but turnout will be patchy and not necessarily indicative. Some will say this is what we deserve for constantly demeaning EU elections. It's still likely that the overall result will be Definitely Out 30-35%, Definitely Remain 30-35%, No-one knows / Depends who's asking 30-35%.

Brilliant. That helps.
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Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun May 26, 2019 10:37 pm

North going very Brexity

decades of governments blaming the EU for everything really coming home to roost.

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun May 26, 2019 10:39 pm

labour are losing in almost all the London seats to the Lib Dems.

Thats a huge story btw

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun May 26, 2019 10:41 pm

But in the North East, the new actual Brexit MEP address is in France.

I mean, you can't make this kind of **** up.

We are in real trouble if that kind of thing doesn't matter.

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Post by tiger76 » Sun May 26, 2019 10:41 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Be interesting to see if any of the channels can take their head out of Farages arse long enough to notice the surges of support for Lib Dems and Greens.
The Greens polling well Europe wide,but given the climate change crisis this isn't unexpected,whether they'll gain enough support to increase their seats in the UK is open to question,rises the argument that the remain vote will be fragmented,and this could cost them seats.

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Post by ŽižkovClaret » Sun May 26, 2019 10:43 pm

No tommy tommy ;)
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Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun May 26, 2019 10:43 pm

tiger76 wrote:The Greens polling well Europe wide,but given the climate change crisis this isn't unexpected,whether they'll gain enough support to increase their seats in the UK is open to question,rises the argument that the remain vote will be fragmented,and this could cost them seats.
True, but as thatberight says, the actual people wanting to leave/remain/watch love island hasn't changed that much.

Even though I'm a remainer, a crushing victory for one or the other would have at least clarified stuff a bit.

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun May 26, 2019 10:45 pm

And its worth mentioning btw

The Brexit Party are the new UKIP, they are not up 40%, they are up about 4% on UKIPs vote.

Compare that to the surges for the Greens and Lib Dems, and you know where a hell of a lot of Conservative and Lab votes have gone.

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Post by CombatClaret » Sun May 26, 2019 10:46 pm

I'm just pleased at the interest and turnout across the continent for the undemocratic EU.
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Post by Venkys4eva » Sun May 26, 2019 10:46 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:And its worth mentioning btw

The Brexit Party are the new UKIP, they are not up 40%, they are up about 4% on UKIPs vote.

Compare that to the surges for the Greens and Lib Dems, and you know where a hell of a lot of Conservative and Lab votes have gone.
Lol

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Post by Right_winger » Sun May 26, 2019 10:47 pm

Labour getting an absolute kicking so far. Lib Dem’s are the remainers party of choice so far it seems.

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Post by tiger76 » Sun May 26, 2019 10:48 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:True, but as thatberight says, the actual people wanting to leave/remain/watch love island hasn't changed that much.

Even though I'm a remainer, a crushing victory for one or the other would have at least clarified stuff a bit.
Shows the country is still split 50/50,which we already knew,i don't watch Love Island BTW.
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Post by CombatClaret » Sun May 26, 2019 10:49 pm

"Tommy Robinson complains he's lost because he's banned from most social media"

I watched 15 minutes of his Burnley visit live streamed on twitter just for sh*ts and g1ggles...

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Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sun May 26, 2019 10:51 pm

Brexit Party getting the UKIP vote plus some Tories.
Lib Dem getting a lot of Labours usual vote.

It’s almost like the country is split down the middle on something.
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Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun May 26, 2019 10:51 pm

Venkys4eva wrote:Lol
You could just check the figures mate, its all there

LOL yourself

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun May 26, 2019 10:54 pm

Corbyns own seat has gone Lib Dem.

Boris Johnson is completely ****** if there is a GE and these results are followed by the way as well

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