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New Shirt Sponsor

Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:54 pm

Cant see a new thread...but the club have confirmed LoveBet as the new Shirt Sponsor for the next 3 years

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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by JohnMcGreal » Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:56 pm

Well that's a shame.

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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by Steve1956 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:03 pm

Gambling sponsors again.....wish we could go back to Multipart or Endsliegh..
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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by Blackrod » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:09 pm

And have no money. Ah the good old days ....

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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by theroyaldyche » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:25 pm

LoveKet

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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by Selby Claret » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:27 pm

Joey B wearing a shirt that said 'Love Bet' - that would have been sweet :)
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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:29 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:Cant see a new thread...but the club have confirmed LoveBet as the new Shirt Sponsor for the next 3 years
That’s a surprise given we’d all seen it on the leaked shirt pic.
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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by Leisure » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:37 pm

A non-gambling sponsor would have been nice.

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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by Claretmatt4 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:40 pm

Not buying another shirt whilst we have a bookie as the sponsor. Ultimately its a meaningless protest though as the commercial impact of low shirt sales is insignificant v the money we get from the sponsorship deal. A sign of the times.

Can't blame the club for trying to get as much money as we can, it's just a shame that the top bidder is always an Asian betting site.
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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:06 pm

I read somewhere that West Ham had decided this year to sell them with our without sponsor

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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by Steve1956 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:10 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I read somewhere that West Ham had decided this year to sell them with our without sponsor
That's how it should be.

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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by SGr » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:11 pm

Why do shirt sponsors exist? To bring in money.
Did this one offer us a better deal than others? Probably.
Is this therefore a problem in any way? No.

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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by Leisure » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:14 pm

SGr wrote:Is this therefore a problem in any way? No.
It is if it encourages more people to gamble, especially youngsters.

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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:14 pm

There will be some who won't wear the shirt due to being sponsored by a betting firm but will go in the ladbrokes cricket field stand
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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by theroyaldyche » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:15 pm

Like it should bother any1
Support your team. Buy the merch
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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by Leisure » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:16 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I read somewhere that West Ham had decided this year to sell them with our without sponsor
Just looked on their website and all adult shirts have the sponsors logo on.

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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by Leisure » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:17 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:There will be some who won't wear the shirt due to being sponsored by a betting firm but will go in the ladbrokes cricket field stand
Name them!

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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:17 pm

Leisure wrote:Just looked on their website and all adult shirts have the sponsors logo on.
I did, but apparently there is a way of ordering without.

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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:18 pm

Leisure wrote:Just looked on their website and all adult shirts have the sponsors logo on.

They are doing it without the sponsor too, I read it last week

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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:19 pm

Leisure wrote:Name them!

I can't due to gamblers anonymous restrictions :D
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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by bfcwest » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:27 pm

Shows a real lack of class from the board. They clearly don't give a stuff about the Club's image and integrity, they just crave the cash. But least they are investing it all on new players and an improved experience for the fans at Turf Moor.....oh hang on....

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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by JohnMcGreal » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:28 pm

SGr wrote:Why do shirt sponsors exist? To bring in money.
Did this one offer us a better deal than others? Probably.
Is this therefore a problem in any way? No.
I think everyone understands the economics behind it, but that doesn't mean to say people should be happy that our shirts are emblazoned with the logo of another crummy online gambling company.

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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:29 pm

bfcwest wrote:Shows a real lack of class from the board. They clearly don't give a stuff about the Club's image and integrity, they just crave the cash. But least they are investing it all on new players and an improved experience for the fans at Turf Moor.....oh hang on....

You tell them bfcwest, show them how angry you are with them by not attending next season ... oh hang on

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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:31 pm

JohnMcGreal wrote:I think everyone understands the economics behind it, but that doesn't mean to say people should be happy that our shirts are emblazoned with the logo of another crummy online gambling company.
Couldn't agree more. I know it won't change anyone's minds at the club but this very subject was discussed at last month's meeting of Burnley FC Supporters Groups and the chairman was tasked with taking the group's unease (for want of a better word) with it to the club's hierarchy. It won't achieve anything though, other than letting them know that the supporters don't like it.

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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by bumba » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:31 pm

Leisure wrote:Just looked on their website and all adult shirts have the sponsors logo on.
You have to order it from the children's section but they've increased the sizes to go too XXL adult, very clever way to do it. We should follow suit
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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by MarkGreen » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:32 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I did, but apparently there is a way of ordering without.
Leisure wrote:Just looked on their website and all adult shirts have the sponsors logo on.
Its labelled as an U18 shirt, but you can buy it in up to XXL sizes.

https://www.officialwesthamstore.com/ki ... shirt.html

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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:32 pm

bumba wrote:You have to order it from the children's section but they've increased the sizes to go too XXL adult, very clever way to do it. We should follow suit
That's how they've done it - I thought I'd seen somewhere that you could.

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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:37 pm

How many seasons out of the last 10 have we not had a gambling company as shirt sponsor ?

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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by Devils_Advocate » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:37 pm

Didn't our beloved last Chairman Barry Kilby make all his money from scratchcards and casino gaming machines like the ones in bookies which are one of the biggest causes of gambling addiction and the problems caused by it?

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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by JohnMcGreal » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:40 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Couldn't agree more. I know it won't change anyone's minds at the club but this very subject was discussed at last month's meeting of Burnley FC Supporters Groups and the chairman was tasked with taking the group's unease (for want of a better word) with it to the club's hierarchy. It won't achieve anything though, other than letting them know that the supporters don't like it.
As long as the money keeps rolling in, clubs will keep taking it. It's a shame, but money talks I guess.

Until the promotion of gambling companies is banned by the league, in the same way that tobacco and alcohol companies have been, nothing will change.

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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by arise_sir_charge » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:43 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Didn't our beloved last Chairman Barry Kilby make all his money from scratchcards and casino gaming machines like the ones in bookies which are one of the biggest causes of gambling addiction and the problems caused by it?
Yes he did and he used that money to invest in the club and help us out of an hole.

Some folk forget that when they are calibrating their morale compass!

It's a shirt sponsor, I don't understand the angst.

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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by Wile E Coyote » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:48 pm

they might as well go the whole hog and let alcohol and tobacco companies back on board if money is the driving force.

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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by wilks_bfc » Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:01 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:How many seasons out of the last 10 have we not had a gambling company as shirt sponsor ?
4 from 10 haven't been betting companies with 1 from 5 of the Premier seasons not

2009-10 (Prem) - Cooke
2010-11 (Champ) - Fun88
2011-12 (Champ) - Fun88
2012-13 (Champ) - PremierRange
2013-14 (Champ) - PremierRange
2014-15 (Prem) - Fun88
2015-16 (Champ) - Oak Furnitureland
2016-17 (Prem) - Dafabet
2017-18 (Prem) - Dafabet
2018-19 (Prem) - LaBa360
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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:03 pm

Thanks...I thought it was something like that.

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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by Grumps » Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:05 pm

So a name on a shirt makes you bet? Did you also buy loads of pies, house insurance and crap wooden furniture in years gone by as well?
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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by ClaretAL » Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:06 pm

I agree with most of what has been said regarding gambling advertisements, but I think the way it takes over the whole front of the shirt and the arms according to the official statement is in poor taste and design, and ruins what could b3 a good shirt
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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by theroyaldyche » Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:09 pm

ClaretTony wrote:That’s a surprise given we’d all seen it on the leaked shirt pic.
Oh yeah.

Cos you could definately read LOVEBET on the leaked pic

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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by Chester Perry » Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:13 pm

Same logo on shirt and sleeve - which is a first in the PL I think - and possibly worth more as a result to the sponsor (though last years was the same group - who also own this years sponsor I am given to understand)

On the subject of Ladbrokes - I posted a while back that they had committed to removing all sponsorship in and around the game see post #937
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Post by Chester Perry » Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:14 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:Oh yeah.

Cos you could definately read LOVEBET on the leaked pic
and read it on the following posts in the same thread

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Post by Leisure » Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:19 pm

Grumps wrote:So a name on a shirt makes you bet?
Well the company obviously think that it will make some people bet (and lose money) otherwise why would they spend money on sponsorship!
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Post by ŽižkovClaret » Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:40 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:LoveKet
Thats a t-shirt in the making! haha

#GurnleyFC :lol: :D
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Post by theroyaldyche » Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:42 pm

ZizkovClaret wrote:Thats a t-shirt in the making! haha

#GurnleyFC :lol: :D
Id buy 1

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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by Vino blanco » Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:45 pm

I couldn't care less who sponsors our shirts, as long as they pay plenty of dosh. The more money in our till, the better.

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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by claret wizard » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:01 pm

Straight from the press release - "Together, we will reach and engage with our ever-increasing global audience, in particular in the Asian market.”

How come we've ended up with Port Vale and Fleetwood for friendlies then, surely the best way to engage our growing Asian audience would be a friendly in China/Hong Kong?

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Post by wilks_bfc » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:05 pm

It's reported that we got £3m for the LaBa deal last year which in the scheme of things isn't much
It is 75,000 adult shirts at £40 each, which would never sell - even if the club opened up the selling restrictions we have.

If we took the moral ground, and went with a more "ethical" company, are they going to pay £3m?
Even if they paid £2m, we'd need to sell 25000 adult shirts to make up the shortfall, which again isn't possible - we don't even have that many home fans each game
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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by Corky » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:09 pm

My understanding of this advertising malarky, and feel free to contradict, is that the betting logo is aimed squarely at the Chinese/Asian market. So when a Burnley match is shown on TV then the hope of LoveBet is that their profile will rise in that region of the world. And I understand that but what I don't understand is why the need to have it on a shirt that someone wants to use as casual wear whilst walking through Burnley town centre on a Monday morning.

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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by tarkys_ears » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:15 pm

Claretmatt4 wrote:Not buying another shirt whilst we have a bookie as the sponsor. Ultimately its a meaningless protest though as the commercial impact of low shirt sales is insignificant v the money we get from the sponsorship deal. A sign of the times.

Can't blame the club for trying to get as much money as we can, it's just a shame that the top bidder is always an Asian betting site.
Yeah and they don't give a **** about us, just about getting their name on TV when we play big clubs.

Shame the shirt will look like **** AGAIN!

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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by tarkys_ears » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:21 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:Yes he did and he used that money to invest in the club and help us out of an hole.

Some folk forget that when they are calibrating their morale compass!

It's a shirt sponsor, I don't understand the angst.
So what else should be foray back into since once upon a time we did...

Kids back down the mines, advertising fags? Tell me!

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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by bfcwest » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:29 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:You tell them bfcwest, show them how angry you are with them by not attending next season ... oh hang on

No problem

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Re: New Shirt Sponsor

Post by Grumps » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:34 pm

Leisure wrote:Well the company obviously think that it will make some people bet (and lose money) otherwise why would they spend money on sponsorship!
Doesn't mean you have to do it, had you quoted the whole of my post you'd see many things that have been on the front of our shirts that people haven't suddenly gone and bought just because 11 men run round with a shirt advertising something. I guess obesity kills more people in East Lancashire than betting does, yet nobody had a problem with pies on the front of the shirt, or being able to order one for half time from your phone.

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