Vydra speaks again

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:37 pm

He sounds happy in the day to day things, just not with limited chances to play. Which is fair enough i'd say. Certainly doesn't necessarily sound like he is looking for a move.

Matěj Vydra on the "Czech" cabin in Burnley and the biggest disappointment in England

A failed season. That is how Matěj Vydra will remember the last year of the Premier League.

A 27-year-old attacker for Sport daily spoke about the first year in Burnley, Czech national team or training with Slavia before the national team meeting. Here are selected passages of the interview.

About the Burnley Season "If I were to compare all the years in England, this was the worst season I had there. For example, I didn't shoot goals in the previous ones, but at least I started to play. In Burnley, I didn't even play as a substitute. Even in terms of the minutes played, it's the worst year. I really felt like a bench player. I don't mean to say that I was just up to number, but the coach didn't change too much, they still played the same, so I didn't get much on the course. "

About the new team “I live near Burnley, players are great. It's the best cabin I've ever seen in England. All teammates are a little crazy, who like fun. We're going to dinner together. It reminds me a bit of the traditional Czech band. Here we go after coffee training, we keep together. We're almost like a family. It wasn't much in other clubs on the Islands. ”

About representation “When you are not playing in a club, it is a very difficult time. You say you get out of the national team, but fortunately the coach has taken me to every meeting. For that he owes a lot of thanks. It can be seen that he trusts me. That's why I try to be 100% ready for this meeting. Two important matches await us, which we have to manage and show that we are in second place. I wouldn't have done any more from England, it was a different level. ”

About training with Slavia

“We ended up in England sometime on May 12, and if I didn't do anything by June, it would have been a big deal. (Laughs). For a few days I trained with Slavia for that, which includes a big thank you to Mr. Tvrdik and Trpišovský who helped me. Perhaps their master's mood cleared my head a little. "

Full interview (Open in Google Chrome for translation):
https://isport.blesk.cz/clanek/fotbal/3 ... lavii.html

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:25 pm

ZizkovClaret wrote:He sounds happy in the day to day things, just not with limited chances to play. Which is fair enough i'd say. Certainly doesn't necessarily sound like he is looking for a move.

Full interview (Open in Google Chrome for translation):
https://isport.blesk.cz/clanek/fotbal/3 ... lavii.html

Who??

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:40 pm

He’ll be gone by August

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:44 pm

agreenwood wrote:He’ll be gone by August

I would expect as much, but he sounds like he's perhaps choosing his words more carefully this time around

theroyaldyche · Post by **theroyaldyche** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:48 pm

If he has a good coupla qualifiers why would he go

He needs to be pushng to start for us in pre season

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:54 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:If he has a good coupla qualifiers why would he go

He needs to be pushng to start for us in pre season

I kind of expect bids to maybe come in from the likes of the promoted sides, plus some clubs abroad. I'm not convinced Dyche would stand in his way if it left plenty of time to bring in a replacement.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:59 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:If he has a good coupla qualifiers why would he go

He needs to be pushng to start for us in pre season

He’s been pushing to start since he got here. There most certainly have been opportunities to phase him into the side, but they weren’t pushed. Plan A is currently dominating. There was a time when it wasn’t, and maybe that was the time to give him his chance. That chance I believe is gone. So he will be.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:59 pm

Going off what SD said the other week, I think Vydra will remain and get more minutes next season.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:59 pm

If we get the right midfielder, he will get a lot more opportunities next season. IF.........

theroyaldyche · Post by **theroyaldyche** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:06 pm

Its cos we play hoofball. Put 1 thru on the ground he will bag

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:09 pm

If I'm honest I could not understand why we signed him.

Stalbansclaret · Post by **Stalbansclaret** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:16 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:Its cos we play hoofball. Put 1 thru on the ground he will bag

Like he did at Man City in the cup when put through you mean ?

I honestly don't know what anyone has seen in him in his career to date to suggest he's a PL striker and in the admittedly limited starts he has had he has been largely woeful for us (West Ham away sticks in my mind for example...let him go.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:22 pm

Stalbansclaret wrote:Like he did at Man City in the cup when put through you mean ?

I honestly don't know what anyone has seen in him in his career to date to suggest he's a PL striker and in the admittedly limited starts he has had he has been largely woeful for us (West Ham away sticks in my mind for example...let him go.

Put through?????

He intercepted/tackled a City defender to make the chance himself.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:04 pm

Stalbansclaret wrote:Like he did at Man City in the cup when put through you mean ?

I honestly don't know what anyone has seen in him in his career to date to suggest he's a PL striker and in the admittedly limited starts he has had he has been largely woeful for us (West Ham away sticks in my mind for example...let him go.

Yeah because getting thrown on for 5 minutes here and there when we're either chasing a game or 3 nil down is a fair way to judge him.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:13 pm

We might all be pleasantly surprised, come August!

(Or not!)

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:16 pm

It's a shame because it seems Vydra has bought into playing for Burnley, but Sean Dyche hasn't bought into playing Vydra for Burnley.

One thing I absolutely cannot stand is when Dyche brings Vydra on for the last 4 minutes of injury time and suchlike.

I'd have really liked to see him given a proper (more than 2 games) chance. As it is he'll be on his way.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:38 pm

Must have been a real kick in the balls on the final day when Dyche brought Crouch on instead, imagine being 4th choice behind Crouch

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:33 pm

He was bought as a back up - he was used as a back-up. SD said he wasn't properly fit having missed the whole of pre-season. needed time to get bedded in and Dyche-fit. We have seen quite a few players brought in late and not be used in season 1

theroyaldyche · Post by **theroyaldyche** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:03 pm

Stalbansclaret wrote:Like he did at Man City in the cup when put through you mean ?

I honestly don't know what anyone has seen in him in his career to date to suggest he's a PL striker and in the admittedly limited starts he has had he has been largely woeful for us (West Ham away sticks in my mind for example...let him go.

You havent a clue mate.

With a proper run in the team he can certainly be better than both wood and barnes

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:08 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:You havent a clue mate.

With a proper run in the team he can certainly be better than both wood and barnes

And west ham away is probably his Home game.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:11 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:You havent a clue mate.

With a proper run in the team he can certainly be better than both wood and barnes

Seriously?
While the manager plays two big fellas up front and tells our players to get the ball into the box ASAP how is Vydra going to get a game?

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:43 am

beddie wrote:If I'm honest I could not understand why we signed him.

Along with SD no doubt

A last minute panic buy from the Chairman and recruitment team to try and appease SD

He could offer something different but our manager is fairly blinkered in his approach hence Crouch is 3rd choice

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:28 am

[quote="theroyaldyche"]You havent a clue mate.

With a proper run in the team he can certainly be better than both wood and barnes[/quote

What is it that suggests this? Barnes and Wood have again netted double figures despite a stop start campaign for both.

theroyaldyche · Post by **theroyaldyche** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:36 am

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:

Same arguament every week. Barnes is easily replaceable as is woods.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:59 am

It comes across as though some people don't actually want him to succeed.

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:39 am

Though unlikely given his chances /our style etc there’s just a small chance if given a run he could really click into gear and be excellent

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:42 am

theroyaldyche wrote:Same arguament every week. Barnes is easily replaceable as is woods.

Based on what? Barnes and Wood’s have got double figures two successive seasons. Not quite sure what Vydra has shown so far to warrant him starting in front of them. Hopefully with a full pre season under his belt he’ll give Dyche something to think about.

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:43 am

Clearly Vydra and Wells will be first choice next season

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:45 am

mdd2 wrote:Clearly Vydra and Wells will be first choice next season

But not for us.

BurnleyPaul · Post by **BurnleyPaul** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:03 am

Surely Vydra’s future is, to some extent, centred around the player(s) that Dyche brings into the club to play in midfield...

If we can bring in players who will allow us to play to Vydra’s strengths then he will likely stay and, hopefully, be a good signing for us.

If we can’t however bring in players who will allow us to see the best of Vydra then I’d imagine that he will be sold. But that then brings its own problems as it means we need to sign another striker on top of whatever we’re currently anticipating.

theroyaldyche · Post by **theroyaldyche** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:33 am

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Based on what? Barnes and Wood’s have got double figures two successive seasons. Not quite sure what Vydra has shown so far to warrant him starting in front of them. Hopefully with a full pre season under his belt he’ll give Dyche something to think about.

Dont need to base it on anything

Barnes and wood are replaceable easily. Might have got double figures but they are replaceable

northernpowerhouse · Post by **northernpowerhouse** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:36 am

If Barnes and Wood can make it in the PL I've no doubt Vydra can as well. Should have been a regular sub at the 65 minute mark in games where we needed a change in tactics. Letting him go makes no sense because we'd have to shell out at least £10million to replace him. Barnes, Wood, Vydra + JRod would leave us well stocked up front, with plenty of cash left over for midfield.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:40 am

jrgbfc wrote:Yeah because getting thrown on for 5 minutes here and there when we're either chasing a game or 3 nil down is a fair way to judge him.

ok lets choose Cardiff and West Ham away.
Or actually the most disappointing performance of all the cup game v Barnsley where he got completely marked out of the game by a centre back who nobody had ever heard of and was playing in a team 2 divisions below.

And before you mention Bournemouth at home - we all know he had one good game that day...

I agree that this was an unusual signing for the amount of money we paid and also the reported salary that we are paying him (it was widely reported he turned down the £40k a week Leeds offered him where he was about to undergo a medical etc).
If we get any serious offers I think he will be off which feels like the best thing for him and for us if we are not going to play him.

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:02 pm

I presumed Dyche was looking to more play Vydra off a classy midfielder like Defour? rather than our hard grafting but low on creativity mid .Hence why, once the twix loving bovril swigging bearded Belgian returned to his favourite haunt ( the treatment table ) Vydras chances were limited

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:04 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:Dont need to base it on anything

Barnes and wood are replaceable easily. Might have got double figures but they are replaceable

Would cost a lot of money to replace Barnes and Wood so probably not as easy as you think.

theroyaldyche · Post by **theroyaldyche** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:03 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:I presumed Dyche was looking to more play Vydra off a classy midfielder like Defour? rather than our hard grafting but low on creativity mid .Hence why, once the twix loving bovril swigging bearded Belgian returned to his favourite haunt ( the treatment table ) Vydras chances were limited

Hoofball needs to go.

Vydra reminds me of a danny ings type off the shoulder with pace. With the right tools i think he cud be scoring more than the rest

Stalbansclaret · Post by **Stalbansclaret** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:25 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:You havent a clue mate.

With a proper run in the team he can certainly be better than both wood and barnes

I do have a clue.....the clue provided by his career history where he has nor produced any kind of goals ratio in 2 previous Premier League spells (WBA and Watford) and the supplementary clue of my seeing his, admittedly limited, appearances for ourselves where he has looked lightweight on the ball, poor in decision making and unexceptional in pace.

What clues do you have to substantiate your statement above ? But then as you've declared yourself a fan of Tommy Robinson on here I'm guessing sound judgement may not be your strongest point.

Roosterbooster · Post by **Roosterbooster** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:25 pm

I suspect if Defour had been fit, we'd have seen much more of Vydra. Likewise, if we hadn't beaten West Ham...

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:38 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:Hoofball needs to go.

Vydra reminds me of a danny ings type off the shoulder with pace. With the right tools i think he cud be scoring more than the rest

Nothing like Danny Ings. Not seen any evidence of Vydra being able to play that no 10 role Ings played where he came deep and linked play brilliantly or ran into the channels.
I’ve not seen Vydra beat a player for pace...he seems to get pretty easily muscled out.
As for not getting the right service / tools is that just at Burnley or is it for every premier league team he has played for and failed to score ?

There might be a premier league player in there and it maybe that Dyche can develop him into one - i’m not necessarily saying there isn’t...it’s just there is no evidence from his time at Burnley or at his previous clubs which suggest he is good enough. I didn’t get the impression we bought him for development purposes or for the future. Our form pre Christmas also meant he should have had lots of opportunities to break into the team with none of our forwards pulling up any trees - but you have to assume he was not showing enough in training to justify many starts and when he did start (other than Bournemouth) he has struggled.

theroyaldyche · Post by **theroyaldyche** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:41 pm

Yes youre right. Theres no evidence as he hasnt had enuf game time

Hes brought vydra in for the long run and i dont expect them to sell him

I jus think we lack pace up front and instead of people crying out for some1 like jay rod i think he has the ability to replace 1 of our current 2 forwards

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:06 pm

Yep but he’s now had 4 seasons in the Premier League and a few seasons in Serie A also.
He’s only had one season at Burnley - we can’t be the only ones responsible for his lack of game time.

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:15 pm

TVC15 wrote:Yep but he’s now had 4 seasons in the Premier League and a few seasons in Serie A also.
He’s only had one season at Burnley - we can’t be the only ones responsible for his lack of game time.

Tbf he's had seasons in Serie A to the same extent that Tammy Abraham has had seasons at Chelsea. Very much bought as a stockpiling exercise which Italian clubs have a liking to do, in the hope that they find the next Nedved

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:32 pm

ZizkovClaret wrote:Tbf he's had seasons in Serie A to the same extent that Tammy Abraham has had seasons at Chelsea. Very much bought as a stockpiling exercise which Italian clubs have a liking to do, in the hope that they find the next Nedved

That may well have been the case - point i was making is that it’s easy to say that he hasn’t been given the opportunities for Burnley but he’s been at 3 other top flight clubs and also not broke through. There has to be a reason for this.
Tammy Abraham at least got sent on loan to another top flight team and played more games and scored more goals in one season than Vydra has done in 7 seasons.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:33 pm

He could join the growing list of players who get rated higher and higher by fans despite never playing for us.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:32 pm

Let's not forget Dyche was reluctant to use a player of Defours ability in his first season with us. It's a bit simplistic to suggest because he's not playing he isn't good enough.

NL Claret · Post by **NL Claret** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:02 pm

jrgbfc wrote:Let's not forget Dyche was reluctant to use a player of Defours ability in his first season with us. It's a bit simplistic to suggest because he's not playing he isn't good enough.

Let's not forget Defour had the ability but no where near the fitness or close to being Dyche fit in his first season with us. Hence the reluctance.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:12 pm

jrgbfc wrote:Let's not forget Dyche was reluctant to use a player of Defours ability in his first season with us. It's a bit simplistic to suggest because he's not playing he isn't good enough.

No more simplistic than suggesting he’s good enough with no evidence that he has ever been good enough at any other club.
When you look at all those players across all teams who spend most of their time on the bench or in the reserves whilst fans can come up with conspiracy theories about not getting on with the manager, or not having the right players to give them service etc...when it comes down to it the most common reason for them not playing is simply they are not good enough.

boyyanno · Post by **boyyanno** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:26 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:Dont need to base it on anything

Barnes and wood are replaceable easily. Might have got double figures but they are replaceable

You literally have no clue about football mate. We wouldn't be able to buy a forward that offers us what Barnes does. He scores goals, he's not just a battering ram like people make out, the technical ability he shows when he takes the ball on his chest is second to none and he holds the ball up well. For the way we play that's absolutely critical.

Conroy92 · Post by **Conroy92** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:07 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:Dont need to base it on anyth

Barnes and wood are replaceable easily. Might have got double figures but they are replaceable

Nearly had me, comments about Trippier, this about Barnes. You let yourself down when you spelt replaceable correctly and then spelt could and enough incorrectly. Usual tricks, I've smelled your bait.

Troll or Fisherman?

theroyaldyche · Post by **theroyaldyche** » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:37 am

Conroy92 wrote:Nearly had me, comments about Trippier, this about Barnes. You let yourself down when you spelt replaceable correctly and then spelt could and enough incorrectly. Usual tricks, I've smelled your bait.

Troll or Fisherman?

Barnes is a good player on his day. All im saying is hes easily replaceable. Hes a donkey more than half the time