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Post by warksclaret » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:19 pm

Who do we seriously think will be our first signing this window

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Post by boatshed bill » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:21 pm

ClaretTony wrote:He was pushed out of Huddersfield by Dean Hoyle because of a contract issue
I'm sure they could have sorted it if they had wanted to.

IMO, it's a shame it didn't work out for him at BFC, but he obviously didn't impress our manager.

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:28 pm

boatshed bill wrote:I'm sure they could have sorted it if they had wanted to.

IMO, it's a shame it didn't work out for him at BFC, but he obviously didn't impress our manager.
Hoyle didn't want to - he'd only a year left on his contract I think and he had initially turned down an offer to extend. When he changed his mind, Hoyle said now and said he would sell him.

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:28 pm

warksclaret wrote:Who do we seriously think will be our first signing this window
I wouldn't have thought anyone on this board would know

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Post by Tall Paul » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:31 pm

warksclaret wrote:Who do we seriously think will be our first signing this window
Joel Senior.
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Post by Firthy » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:35 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I wouldn't have thought anyone on this board would know
Your sentence is too long. It should read "I wouldn't have thought anyone" :lol:

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Post by rob63 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:39 pm

jrgbfc wrote:My expectations are now that low when it comes to our transfer dealings I won't be surprised if we start the season without strengthening again.
Me neither.............we've still technically not replaced Arfield & Marney, unless you count McNeil a replacement

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:43 pm

rob63 wrote:Me neither.............we've still technically not replaced Arfield & Marney, unless you count McNeil a replacement
Westwood came in almost immediately Marney got injured and we've since also added Cork into the centre of midfield.

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Post by rob63 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:47 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:Did anyone think Wells might be good enough to play in the Premier League ?
Sean Dyche must have, if he truly has the final say on acquisitions

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Post by Bin Ont Turf » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:49 pm

Swedish sign incoming.............

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Post by rob63 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:55 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Westwood came in almost immediately Marney got injured and we've since also added Cork into the centre of midfield.
Take your point about Westwood & Marney's injury but Marney was still on the payroll. Cork came in 2 years ago & Arfield left a year ago

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:59 pm

rob63 wrote:Take your point about Westwood & Marney's injury but Marney was still on the payroll. Cork came in 2 years ago & Arfield left a year ago
But we knew Marney wasn't going to be playing for some considerable time so we brought in Westwood and then in the following summer Cork, so it is simply wrong to suggest we haven't replaced Marney. It wasn't so much when he was off the payroll but when he was unavailable and we brought someone in immediately.

Likewise, Lennon was brought in before Arfield left - again not waiting until a player has left before bringing in his replacement.
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Post by rob63 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:04 pm

ClaretTony wrote:But we knew Marney wasn't going to be playing for some considerable time so we brought in Westwood and then in the following summer Cork, so it is simply wrong to suggest we haven't replaced Marney. It wasn't so much when he was off the payroll but when he was unavailable and we brought someone in immediately.

Likewise, Lennon was brought in before Arfield left - again not waiting until a player has left before bringing in his replacement.
So we don't need midfield to be strengthened then?

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Post by joey13 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:08 pm

ClaretTony wrote:He was pushed out of Huddersfield by Dean Hoyle because of a contract issue
Exactly this , it was stated at a fans forum
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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:21 pm

ClaretTony wrote:But we knew Marney wasn't going to be playing for some considerable time so we brought in Westwood and then in the following summer Cork, so it is simply wrong to suggest we haven't replaced Marney. It wasn't so much when he was off the payroll but when he was unavailable and we brought someone in immediately.

Likewise, Lennon was brought in before Arfield left - again not waiting until a player has left before bringing in his replacement.
we still haven't replaced John Deary !
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Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:50 pm

rob63 wrote:So we don't need midfield to be strengthened then?
Sorry? I was replying to a post saying we hadn't replaced Marney, absolutely nothing to do with our current requirements.
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Post by DCWat » Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:29 am

Dyche will and should have the final say, but I’d hope that Rigg is slowly but surely building up a wider pool of players from which to choose from.

Dyche presumably identifies a type of player profile he’s after and Rigg will hopefully present some options within x criteria.

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Post by CFS » Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:51 am

Jayrod fee agreed however not sure if that is us or someone else.
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Post by AndyClaret » Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:57 am

CFS wrote:Jayrod fee agreed however not sure if that is us or someone else.
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It's a fixed fee of £5M isn't it ? hardly news.

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Post by AndyClaret » Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:00 am

ClaretTony wrote:Not sure how you can sign players outside of the windows but I don’t think, given that post, you understand his role.
You can sign players outside of a window, they just can't play until the window opens.

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Post by Reecey1987 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:01 am

AndyClaret wrote:It's a fixed fee of £5M isn't it ? hardly news.
I think the clause runs out middle of july so who ever is signing him needs to pull there finger out

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Post by CFS » Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:46 am

AndyClaret wrote:It's a fixed fee of £5M isn't it ? hardly news.
Not the £5m agreed but some fee has been by who I don't know.

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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:56 am

AndyClaret wrote:You can sign players outside of a window, they just can't play until the window opens.
You can't - they can't be registered

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Post by Steddyman » Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:20 am

Anyone else think that Vydra could be like a new signing with a full pre-season under his belt?

I remember how Robbie Brady came out of his first pre-season with us completely re-energised.

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Post by COBBLE » Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:31 am

I will agree with you. logical and positive. He's got a lot to offer. Just prepare for a few negatives!

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Post by Quicknick » Wed Jun 26, 2019 1:01 pm

I'm also hopeful that Vydra will turn out to be a revelation.

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Post by claretspice » Wed Jun 26, 2019 1:25 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Hoyle didn't want to - he'd only a year left on his contract I think and he had initially turned down an offer to extend. When he changed his mind, Hoyle said now and said he would sell him.
I'm not suggesting that this isn't correct - I don't know - but in fairness it seems right to point out that he also wasn't viewed as a natural fit for Huddersfield's system, being neither a natural number 9 nor naturally suited to playing out wide in a front 3, so he was on the periphery of the their team. In fact, it wasn't wholly dissimilar to the one Vydra found himself in at Derby last summer.

I don't think it's controversial to say that their status at their clubs mirrored the fact that neither player was our first choice at the time we signed them.

But to provide balance the other way - the fact of the matter is that we have 8 first team midfielders or wide players - 4 natural central midfielders (counting McNeil as a wide player for now), and 4 natural wide players (2 of whom naturally prefer left and the same on the right). It is absolutely not the case that we are short of bodies in that department so we some past departure in that department has left a vacancy to be filled.

Our problem is that Defour in particular cannot be relied upon to stay fit. But to replace him involves getting rid of him, or ending up with a squad which is a bit top-heavy. So I can absolutely understand that we might not be bringing in a midfielder until we've offloaded Defour (and a similar argument might apply to bringing in a wide player - we need Lennon, say, to move on first).

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Post by SGr » Wed Jun 26, 2019 1:47 pm

Dan Black of the Burnley Express on twitter today:

I’ve been making phone calls and firing out emails all week, but there’s very little of substance to report on the transfer front I’m afraid. Sorry to disappoint. I’ll keep digging. Here’s hoping that no news turns out to be good news.

Enthralling.

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Post by summitclaret » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:00 pm

claretspice wrote:I'm not suggesting that this isn't correct - I don't know - but in fairness it seems right to point out that he also wasn't viewed as a natural fit for Huddersfield's system, being neither a natural number 9 nor naturally suited to playing out wide in a front 3, so he was on the periphery of the their team. In fact, it wasn't wholly dissimilar to the one Vydra found himself in at Derby last summer.

I don't think it's controversial to say that their status at their clubs mirrored the fact that neither player was our first choice at the time we signed them.

But to provide balance the other way - the fact of the matter is that we have 8 first team midfielders or wide players - 4 natural central midfielders (counting McNeil as a wide player for now), and 4 natural wide players (2 of whom naturally prefer left and the same on the right). It is absolutely not the case that we are short of bodies in that department so we some past departure in that department has left a vacancy to be filled.

Our problem is that Defour in particular cannot be relied upon to stay fit. But to replace him involves getting rid of him, or ending up with a squad which is a bit top-heavy. So I can absolutely understand that we might not be bringing in a midfielder until we've offloaded Defour (and a similar argument might apply to bringing in a wide player - we need Lennon, say, to move on first).
Its simple we have too many keepers. If we don't get a cm player better than what we have then are almost certain to be in a relegation fight from day 1 imo.

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Post by Reecey1987 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:02 pm

Interesting to see Darren Mowbray scouting for #burnleyfc at #U21EURO ....he's the younger brother of Tony Mowbray - manager of their local rivals #brfc

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:05 pm

summitclaret wrote:Its simple we have too many keepers. If we don't get a cm player better than what we have then are almost certain to be in a relegation fight from day 1 imo.

Don't you think we will be in a relegation fight when we are in this division for a good few years or do you think we are a signing away from being safe in August ?

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Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:27 pm

we will be in a relegation battle every season along with another 10 clubs
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Post by FactualFrank » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:33 pm

Of course we will always be in a relegation fight, just as we were in the 17/18 season.
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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:35 pm

Don't you think we started that season in a relegation fight ?

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Post by MACCA » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:49 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:Interesting to see Darren Mowbray scouting for #burnleyfc at #U21EURO ....he's the younger brother of Tony Mowbray - manager of their local rivals #brfc
Must be strange, as surely anyone quite not good enough for us ( or maybe some that are ) can get passed onto Tony, whilst we are paying the wages.

Bloods thicker than water ( dont give me the professional speil )
He will almost certainly discuss good players hes seen with close friends and family, even more so his brother who's a manager.

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Post by Reecey1987 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:01 pm

MACCA wrote:Must be strange, as surely anyone quite not good enough for us ( or maybe some that are ) can get passed onto Tony, whilst we are paying the wages.

Bloods thicker than water ( dont give me the professional speil )
He will almost certainly discuss good players hes seen with close friends and family, even more so his brother who's a manager.
It was just something a took from twitter . I thought it would post the link aswell but for some reason it didnt

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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:31 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:Interesting to see Darren Mowbray scouting for #burnleyfc at #U21EURO ....he's the younger brother of Tony Mowbray - manager of their local rivals #brfc
Darren Mowbray has been with us for some time.

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Post by kaptin1 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:43 pm

SGr wrote:Dan Black of the Burnley Express on twitter today:

I’ve been making phone calls and firing out emails all week, but there’s very little of substance to report on the transfer front I’m afraid. Sorry to disappoint. I’ll keep digging. Here’s hoping that no news turns out to be good news.

Enthralling.
But remember...

The market has moved on,
Its all Wan Bissaka’s fault,
We have to operate within the constraints of our financial model
We can’t even compete financially with some Championship clubs
Players have to be the right fit
We already have a strong squad,
We have a number of players coming back from injury and returning from loans that will be like new signings
The wage bill has gone up significantly in the past two years
We’ve spent all the spare money on new stands and plastic seats

Have I missed anything?

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Post by MACCA » Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:46 pm

kaptin1 wrote:But remember...

The market has moved on,
Its all Wan Bissaka’s fault,
We have to operate within the constraints of our financial model
We can’t even compete financially with some Championship clubs
Players have to be the right fit
We already have a strong squad,
We have a number of players coming back from injury and returning from loans that will be like new signings
The wage bill has gone up significantly in the past two years
We’ve spent all the spare money on new stands and plastic seats

Have I missed anything?
Ha ha ha

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You missed out "season ticket prices are frozen again" ;)

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:46 pm

kaptin1 wrote:But remember...

The market has moved on,
Its all Wan Bissaka’s fault,
We have to operate within the constraints of our financial model
We can’t even compete financially with some Championship clubs
Players have to be the right fit
We already have a strong squad,
We have a number of players coming back from injury and returning from loans that will be like new signings
The wage bill has gone up significantly in the past two years
We’ve spent all the spare money on new stands and plastic seats

Have I missed anything?
Dry powder ?

That is always a funny one to the oddballs

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Post by Grumps » Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:47 pm

SGr wrote:Dan Black of the Burnley Express on twitter today:

I’ve been making phone calls and firing out emails all week, but there’s very little of substance to report on the transfer front I’m afraid. Sorry to disappoint. I’ll keep digging. Here’s hoping that no news turns out to be good news.

Enthralling.
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Post by jojomk1 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:48 pm

DCWat wrote:Dyche presumably identifies a type of player profile he’s after and Rigg will hopefully present some options within x criteria.
How many clones of Peter Crouch are out there ?

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Post by box_of_frogs » Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:16 pm

How’s this thread got to 8 pages!?
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Post by Goobs » Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:21 pm

box_of_frogs wrote:How’s this thread got to 8 pages!?
Because as yet nobody has been quite a big enough prick to get it closed down.

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Post by FactualFrank » Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:26 pm

box_of_frogs wrote:How’s this thread got to 8 pages!?
Not sure, but I when the thread was created, I contacted BetFred and they gave odds of 1786/1 that it would get to 8 pages with a link being included in each and every post.

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Post by claretspice » Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:33 pm

summitclaret wrote:Its simple we have too many keepers. If we don't get a cm player better than what we have then are almost certain to be in a relegation fight from day 1 imo.
I'd say that's a slightly extreme position given how well we performed with Cork and Westwood in that department after Christmas last season, and given how well we performed with Cork, Defour and Hendrick primarily manning those roles the season before. I'm very much on board with the argument that it is an area where we could usefully strengthen, but I can equally see that it's an area where we'd need to move someone out first and that takes time. There's a reasonable argument that what the squad lacks is a utility place who could play wide or up front, or at full back or in midfield - because that is about the only way we can add extra depth without making the squad too fat.

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Post by kaptin1 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:35 pm

MACCA wrote:Ha ha ha

Silly man
























You missed out "season ticket prices are frozen again" ;)
Yep, silly me :lol:

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Post by KRBFC » Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:39 pm

We’re pants in the market anyway, absolute cheap skates the bidding for players doesn’t start until the final week

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Post by summitclaret » Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:42 pm

claretspice wrote:I'd say that's a slightly extreme position given how well we performed with Cork and Westwood in that department after Christmas last season, and given how well we performed with Cork, Defour and Hendrick primarily manning those roles the season before. I'm very much on board with the argument that it is an area where we could usefully strengthen, but I can equally see that it's an area where we'd need to move someone out first and that takes time. There's a reasonable argument that what the squad lacks is a utility place who could play wide or up front, or at full back or in midfield - because that is about the only way we can add extra depth without making the squad too fat.
Sounds like you are prepared to take another risk on Defour's fitness. I am not. Cork's performances in 2018 were worrying enough to convince me that he can't assume he starts every week. Also we should have 5 centre midfielders in the squad, one of which could be a younger one for the future. Our inability to bring on subs in cm is a big factor in us conceding so many late goals.

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Post by Spijed » Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:42 pm

KRBFC wrote:We’re pants in the market anyway, absolute cheap skates the bidding for players doesn’t start until the final week
And yet the bottom line is that all those teams that have been relegated in the last few seasons are far worse than us!

The only thing that matters is where you finish at the end of the season.

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