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Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:53 am

We need someone more reliable than McCarthy, his recent injuries suggest we may end up with another on the injury table, albeit a fully fit JM would fit in no problem with us

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:02 am

Delph and Milner would both be players I’d love to see in in a Dyche team. Quality and the prerequisite work rate to go with it.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:14 am

ClaretTony wrote:Can't believe any posters weren't impressed with Westwood in the second half of the season, he was as good as anyone we had.

I think Pieters, in some ways, is a good comparison in that him losing his place came about with a change of manager. Jones ditched Pieters because he didn't think he fit into the way he played, from what I've heard over at Huddersfield, Siewert doesn't rate Billing so I wouldn't be surprised to see him leave. He did win their players' player of the year award last season.

I think most were impressed with Westwood, it was Cork who had some issues.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:33 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:Claretspice we need athleticism and strength in the middle of the park as unfortunately Cork seems to lose out on too many battles. Passing should be taken for granted if we're signing a premier league quality player.
I like Cork and the same with most of our CMs he would be a lot better in a 3, but Dyche doesn't like that so we need to upgrade.

Let's be clear though, we cant have everything. Curious to say passing "should be taken for granted" - clearly there are midfielders who make careers in the Premier League in spite of the quality of their passing (because they're superb athletes), and there are some who make it because of their passing.

In my opinion, whilst I think we need "presence" in midfield, I don't think we especially need anyone more athletic than Cork - and I suspect most supporters of other teams would be surprised by the idea we are not physical enough in midfield. Where we're short, in my view, is in the ability of Cork and Westwood to move the ball to the flanks quickly (although Rodriguez' has an ability to switch the ball wide when I've seen him that might help in that regard).

So - if you've got to rank the 3 attributes in order of priority - I'd priorities presence (height and physicality) and passing/technical ability, above athleticism (by which we really mean pace), because of how tight we keep things in midfield.

Even then, if we're looking for the two attributes primarily, we've seen how difficult it is to think of realistic targets who fit the brief. We've got to be realistic about what we can hope to sign.

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:47 am

As alluded to above, Billing was only out of the team due to disagreements with the manager. He’s exactly the type of player that would improve us and certainly has the attributes we’re looking for. Can’t comment on attitude but he wasn’t the only one to have disagreements with the manager there.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:12 pm

Nixon has something about us in the paper tomorrow . I wonder what it will be about ?

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:15 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:Nixon has something about us in the paper tomorrow . I wonder what it will be about ?

He seems mostly to be on about players leaving

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:15 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:Nixon has something about us in the paper tomorrow . I wonder what it will be about ?

Every time he's said that and I've followed it up the following day, it's just been a repeat of what was already covered the day before.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:22 pm

https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/t ... k-16564669" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; transfer record could be broken this window

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:22 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Every time he's said that and I've followed it up the following day, it's just been a repeat of what was already covered the day before.

Most likely about heaton

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:23 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/t ... k-16564669 transfer record could be broken this window

I think that website needs to be renamed to clickbait.com

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:24 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I think that website needs to be renamed to clickbait.com

Most likely come from the burnley express

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:03 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:Most likely come from the burnley express

most likely come from here then

CMOMClaret · Post by **CMOMClaret** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:28 pm

Burnley to make £19 million double raid on Genk

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... k-denmark/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

rob63 · Post by **rob63** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:31 pm

claretspice wrote:Let's be clear though, we cant have everything. Curious to say passing "should be taken for granted" - clearly there are midfielders who make careers in the Premier League in spite of the quality of their passing (because they're superb athletes), and there are some who make it because of their passing.

In my opinion, whilst I think we need "presence" in midfield, I don't think we especially need anyone more athletic than Cork - and I suspect most supporters of other teams would be surprised by the idea we are not physical enough in midfield. Where we're short, in my view, is in the ability of Cork and Westwood to move the ball to the flanks quickly (although Rodriguez' has an ability to switch the ball wide when I've seen him that might help in that regard).

So - if you've got to rank the 3 attributes in order of priority - I'd priorities presence (height and physicality) and passing/technical ability, above athleticism (by which we really mean pace), because of how tight we keep things in midfield.

Even then, if we're looking for the two attributes primarily, we've seen how difficult it is to think of realistic targets who fit the brief. We've got to be realistic about what we can hope to sign.

I agree, people seem to be confusing athleticism with pace. Cork is a great athlete, he can run all day- a real marathon runner, which is what we needed at the time, but now the game has changed, as have the team, with better players in the starting XI, we now need someone in MF with more pace. Short bursts of acceleration to create space & open defences up & react quicker from out of position, Cork as good as he is, regrettably is not that player. Hope we find that player or Westie is going to be knackered by next May

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:34 pm

The Ukrainian midfielder is off to Atalanta apparently.

rob63 · Post by **rob63** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:53 pm

CMOMClaret wrote:Burnley to make £19 million double raid on Genk

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... k-denmark/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Malinovskyi is a good player but a bit of a hot-head, gets wound up & always a candidate for a yellow card. Not really a defensive mid for those on here who were looking for that. Berge is their DMF but he'd be cost too much for Burnley.
Maehle is a good player but I'd be surprised if we got them both for less than £25m.

John Gayles Shoulder · Post by **John Gayles Shoulder** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:16 am

Heaton to Villa is a done deal apparently

2nd hand info and no idea on fee but I guess time will tell. Would be a great shame but something has to give with the keepers

Blyclaret · Post by **Blyclaret** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:40 am

Would love to see Tom stay
But not signing at new contract.....33 .... villa will to pay 7 to 10 million
And Pope his much younger under study ready to take over
It would be another fantastic piece of business by the club.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:45 am

Malinovskyi looks to have a wand of a left foot and would add nice balance to the midfield. Sky Italia reporting he is signing for Atalanta, though.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:45 am

"A wand of a left foot?" The new Dave Jones then?

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:10 am

John Gayles Shoulder wrote:Heaton to Villa is a done deal apparently

2nd hand info and no idea on fee but I guess time will tell. Would be a great shame but something has to give with the keepers

And the something should be giving Tom the 3 years he wants and getting rid of Hart.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:01 am

Nixon’s article also states we’re considering a bid for Klich at Leeds

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:16 am

SGr wrote:Nixon’s article also states we’re considering a bid for Klich at Leeds

I hope not. The definition of “journeyman”. Almost 30. Nine clubs in 10 seasons. Barely played 50 games for anyone.

MDWat · Post by **MDWat** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:18 am

Klich is shite. Him and Peacock-Farrell would be really poor signings.

Don’t know owt about the foreign lads but it’s a bit more exciting getting linked with people you’ve never heard of before!

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:22 am

MDWat wrote:Klich is shite. Him and Peacock-Farrell would be really poor signings.

Don’t know owt about the foreign lads but it’s a bit more exciting getting linked with people you’ve never heard of before!

Even if they’ve already signed for someone else

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:28 am

John Gayles Shoulder wrote:Heaton to Villa is a done deal apparently

2nd hand info and no idea on fee but I guess time will tell. Would be a great shame but something has to give with the keepers

Sauce ?

Iloveyoubrady · Post by **Iloveyoubrady** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:32 am

joey13 wrote:Sauce ?

Ketchup

MDWat · Post by **MDWat** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:35 am

agreenwood wrote:Even if they’ve already signed for someone else

Got to take the scraps, Oz!

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:41 am

Genk is an excellent club for producing future stars and the sort of club we should be scouting.

This is from there wiki page:

Youth academy
Genk is well known for its outstanding youth academy. In 2003 they built their youth center next to their stadium and set up a youth program with Ronny Vangeneugden. There are further plans to build a boarding school and some synthetic pitches. In the past and now, many young players have found their way through the youth system. Some examples are Yannick Carrasco (Atlético Madrid), Jelle Vossen (Club Brugge), Dennis Praet (Sampdoria), Steven Defour (Burnley), Christian Benteke (Crystal Palace), Thibaut Courtois (Real Madrid), Divock Origi (Liverpool), Timothy Castagne (Atalanta Bergamo) and Kevin De Bruyne (Manchester City).

Their scouting is also highly regarded. Players like Kalidou Koulibaly, Wilfred Ndidi, Leon Bailey and Sergej Milinković-Savić all played for Genk.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:48 am

I noticed the other day that they (Genk) have signed Gheorghe Hagi's lad.

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:48 am

Legends like Jelle Vossen!

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:08 am

CMOMClaret wrote:Burnley to make £19 million double raid on Genk
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... k-denmark/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Rumours also flying around about a double raid on Leeds for Roofe and Klich.

MDWat · Post by **MDWat** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:25 am

Roofe is going to Rangers

bfc-sparta · Post by **bfc-sparta** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:26 am

Why go for roofe when we got vydra? Unless he's part of the deal for him and klich

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:24 am

bfc-sparta wrote:Why go for roofe when we got vydra? Unless he's part of the deal for him and klich

Leeds fans won't want us to get hold of Klich and they can apparently extend his contract by another year.

From what I've seen of him he's more a hard working / industrious type, which let's be fair, is a Dyche type of player. He also has a cracking good shot on him, and 10 goals from midfield is decent. The Leeds friends I've asked (some who go on every home game), really rate him.

rob63 · Post by **rob63** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:13 pm

MDWat wrote:Klich is shite. Him and Peacock-Farrell would be really poor signings.

Don’t know owt about the foreign lads but it’s a bit more exciting getting linked with people you’ve never heard of before!

Anybody who knows owt about foreign lads gets ripped into on here. Inferior leagues, won't do it in the Premier league.......

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:57 am

The Spanish guy who was on loan at Cardiff last season is the latest to be linked with a move to us.

Dodobdobodobo · Post by **Dodobdobodobo** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:27 am

Grumps wrote:The Spanish guy who was on loan at Cardiff last season is the latest to be linked with a move to us.

Victor Camarasa? He looked a decent player

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:41 am

Dodobdobodobo wrote:Victor Camarasa? He looked a decent player

That's the one, don't remember to much about him to be honest

BFC123 · Post by **BFC123** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:43 am

Grumps wrote:The Spanish guy who was on loan at Cardiff last season is the latest to be linked with a move to us.

Where have you seen that? Can’t see anything online.

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:52 am

I got told by someone, but it's also in the sun today apparently

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:17 am

Remember the only reliable thing in the Sun is the date
Worst paper ever for football reporting.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:26 am

Have I read this right,if Maguire leaves Leicester for United,they will pay Brighton £45 million for Lewis Dunk!!!,surely that's £4.5 million if not football has gone berserk.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:31 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:Remember the only reliable thing in the Sun is the date
Worst paper ever for football reporting.

I'd still double check to make sure that was correct

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:40 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:Remember the only reliable thing in the Sun is the date
Worst paper ever for football reporting.

I would disagree, but I realise many people have an agenda against the paper, so be it, I was only posting what has been said, no idea if it's true, and more importantly I won't pretend I know if its true.

fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:45 am

Grumps wrote:I would disagree, but I realise many people have an agenda against the paper, so be it, I was only posting what has been said, no idea if it's true, and more importantly I won't pretend I know if its true.

Agenda ?

How could anyone have an agenda against that bunch of twisted, sick guttersnipes that perpetuate that dirty nasty obnoxious illiterate rag ?

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:46 am

Grumps wrote:I would disagree, but I realise many people have an agenda against the paper, so be it, I was only posting what has been said, no idea if it's true, and more importantly I won't pretend I know if its true.

No agenda here

It just a **** paper

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:51 am

A paper isn’t credible for football news if it makes up match reports without sending reporters and makes up player ratings.

Local cricketer · Post by **Local cricketer** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:01 am

Page 47 in the sun