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Post by creepingdeath » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:27 am

BURNLEY. Tried a player swap deal for Kalvin Phillips at LEEDS. Matej Vydra the poss swap. Turned down so far. But expect another nibble

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Post by AndyClaret » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:27 am

"fund a replacement" good grief, where's all the money gone ??
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Post by creepingdeath » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:28 am

BURNLEY. Could be a move out for Hendrick as contract a year from ending. Would help fund a move for a replacement ...
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Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:28 am

Moving out Hendrick and replacing with another CM would leave us back to square one.
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Post by Blyclaret » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:29 am

So im afraid its sell before we can buy.

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Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:29 am

I’m hoping that Hendrick story is nonsense... to fund a replacement?!

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Post by mdd2 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:29 am

Madness to let Jeff go. If this has legs Phillips will not play later today

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Post by jedi_master » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:30 am

So Nixon has just said we are going to ‘fund’ our next signing by selling Jeff Hendrick.

That’s right, ‘fund’.

If that has to happen to make something else happen then serious questions need asking. Also, where’s the logic in us finally plugging our CM depth hole by selling a CM (and also a valuable utility player)? Baffling, if this is in anyway true.

Out of contract in a year, but in the circumstances, I’d keep him and see what happens.
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Post by Grimsdale » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:33 am

Nixon's tweet says "Could be a move out for Hendrick as contract a year from ending. Would help fund a move for a replacement" which sounds like it's pure speculation on his part.
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Post by RVclaret » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:34 am

Kalvin Phillips would be an outstanding signing.
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Post by steve1264b » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:34 am

Seems to me that if we have a player with a year left they sign or we ship out and get a fee. Nixon says it would fund not we have to sell first.
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Post by Heathclaret » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:35 am

Blyclaret wrote:Vokes / Jay Rod
Heaton / Bailley Peacock Farrell
I thought that Vokes and Heaton wanted to move, therefore creating a position to be filled.

With Defour out again and Cork injured, we need someone in, possibly without any one leaving.

Last year we had Heaton returning from a long lay off and Pope injured, we brought in Hart, without selling a keeper.

It may be preferable for the club to free up a wage, but not crucial.

No, I have no inside information, I’m just an ignorant fan :D

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:36 am

steve1264b wrote:Seems to me that if we have a player with a year left they sign or we ship out and get a fee. Nixon says it would fund not we have to sell first.
How it looks to me too. If Hendrick signed a new deal I think we'd still be in for another midfielder

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Post by mdd2 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:36 am

If Agyei and Dunne are to be named in the 25 (Mcneill is too young) with 3 keepers we have our squad of 25-so it will be one in and one out. But if neither go into the 25 we have two slots presently-so no need to do any swap deals

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Post by Heathclaret » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:38 am

Jesus, not Hendrick as well, thought he was part of the fabric.

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Post by Blyclaret » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:39 am

Philips would be a brilliant signing box to box midfielder
Strong .... and can score goals too

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Post by AndyClaret » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:39 am

mdd2 wrote:If Agyei and Dunne are to be named in the 25 (Mcneill is too young) with 3 keepers we have our squad of 25-so it will be one in and one out. But if neither go into the 25 we have two slots presently-so no need to do any swap deals
Agyei is no longer here.

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Post by jedi_master » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:39 am

Putting the Hendrick negativity to the side - as I’m not a fan of that story, Phillips would be a fantastic signing.

Vydra clearly not in the plans here so if we got Phillips for 15m plus him I think that would be great for all three parties.

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Post by Rileybobs » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:41 am

People need to stop taking Nixon’s speculation as fact. We obviously don’t need to sell a player to bring one in. Our accounts are published and we are in a healthy financial position.

There is a limit to squad size though and in some positions it sometimes makes sense to move one out to bring one in. We’re a bit heavy in the striker department for example.

It would be madness to sell Hendrick this late in the window and I doubt we’re considering it. If he won’t sign a new deal we could recoup a fee in January.

As for the link with Phillips, I’d be pretty happy if we signed him.

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Post by ewanrob » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:41 am

Be glad when Thursday comes and go's....this transfer window is doing my head in.
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Post by ewanrob » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:47 am

That lad deserves a proper chance, been a brilliant servant for our club...always ready when asked to step up. Hope we dont price him out of a move.
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Post by Blyclaret » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:48 am

So he wasent injured yesterday.

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Post by Blackrod » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:51 am

Blyclaret wrote:So im afraid its sell before we can buy.
This can’t possibly be the case. If so where the hell has all the money gone ?
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Post by mdd2 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:52 am

Kevin is 29 soon and if Jimmy Dunne really has potential to be a top flight CH and be a better prospect than Kevin was 9 years ago when he arrived-then selling KL to fund a slot for a MF player makes sense if we are keeping the rest of the squad together but it depends what SD thinks of Jimmy Dunne

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Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:54 am

Genuine question

Why does it appear more players are rumoured to be leaving as opposed to wanting to join us?

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Post by ClaretAL » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:54 am

What makes people think that Nixon knows anything about our financial situation?
The Age profile of our team is at the top end and like Fergie did with Utd 4 times redeveloping the team, dont you think Dyche has recognised he needs to do the same? Unfortunately that will mean stall warts need to move on to make way for the youth to come through. Phillips makes sense, as straight in to replace Cork (Hendrick is a utility player and would need someone who can lay wing and centre), then Benson on the bench, that would give 4 CM , I think we need to look at the wings as Lennon aged back up for JBG and Injury prone Brady back up for McNeil, if Tarky goes, the CB is looking at 2 CB with 2 back up in Dunne and Long. Just my observation, but I am fairly sure the manager and board know a lot more than any of use, and a hell of a lot more that any pundit trying to make wage by stating whatever he wants with no reprise.

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Post by Spike » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:56 am

Long looks much better than Dunne at the present time

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Post by Blyclaret » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:57 am

nixon is a ****
But .... he gets a lot right

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Post by Tall Paul » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:01 am

THEWELLERNUT70 wrote:Genuine question

Why does it appear more players are rumoured to be leaving as opposed to wanting to join us?
Because we don't do our business through the media like a lot of other clubs.
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Post by Murger » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:01 am

I'm not a massive Hendrick fan, but if he needs to be sold to fund an incoming signing, then something isn't right.

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Post by williamjblazkowicz » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:02 am

Blyclaret wrote:nixon is a ****
But .... he gets a lot right
Does he? Seems to me that he just throws a lot of **** at the wall in the hope that something sticks.
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Post by mdd2 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:02 am

Blackrod wrote:This can’t possibly be the case. If so where the hell has all the money gone ?
Maybe our salary structure has changed. £52 million would go on a squad of 25 at £40k/week-and we have to pay a lot more than 25 and there is the NI to pay on that too (?£7million on salaries of £52million) as well as transfer deals and agents' fees, infrastructure etc. .

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Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:02 am

Blyclaret wrote:nixon is a ****
But .... he gets a lot right
Don’t talk sense people won’t believe.

Called that kid we have signed from Leeds for the u23s weeks ago yet some on here will have you believe he knows nothing.

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Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:03 am

williamjblazkowicz wrote:Does he? Seems to me that he just throws a lot of **** at the wall in the hope that something sticks.
See.

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Post by MACCA » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:04 am

RVclaret wrote:Kalvin Phillips would be an outstanding signing.
Really, I've barely heard of him.

What's his attributes etc?

Is he a creator etc, as when I've watched Leeds he seems quiet/unnoticed in terms if contribution, so in my head I have defensive screener.

Not a bad thing, just he doesn't jump out to me as a player you'd break your transfer record for

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Post by williamjblazkowicz » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:06 am

Granny WeatherWax wrote:Don’t talk sense people won’t believe.

Called that kid we have signed from Leeds for the u23s weeks ago yet some on here will have you believe he knows nothing.
Not saying he doesn't know anything. However, someone recently posted on here a list of the players he's linked Burnley with in recent times - vast majority didn't end up with us. We don't know whether there was anything in these links but that's what he's counting on. If he spits out enough names, he'll get one right eventually.

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Post by RVclaret » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:10 am

MACCA wrote:Really, I've barely heard of him.

What's his attributes etc?

Is he a creator etc, as when I've watched Leeds he seems quiet/unnoticed in terms if contribution, so in my head I have defensive screener.

Not a bad thing, just he doesn't jump out to me as a player you'd break your transfer record for
Got a cracking pass on him, strong in the tackle and quite dynamic with the way he gets about. Would be the perfect signing for us.

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:10 am

Would like to think this could happen regarding Phillips but it seems like it’s been left too late. If he doesn’t play today their may be something in it mind you.

As for the Hendrick thing....we can’t afford to let him go.

Long probably deserves his chance if he leaves for Forest. Is Dunne ready to step up? He was out of position a couple of times in his short cameo yesterday, but recovered well. So we will find out in due course.

Brady injured yet again, along with our other wingers who tend to pick up knock also leaves me with a list before a Thursday of :

Center mid x 1 providing Hendrick goes nowwhere.
Winger, preferably right footed.
Striker if Vydra leaves /Wells leaves

All though I expect 1 out of the 3 sadly

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Post by ClaretAL » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:28 am

MACCA wrote:Really, I've barely heard of him.

What's his attributes etc?

Is he a creator etc, as when I've watched Leeds he seems quiet/unnoticed in terms if contribution, so in my head I have defensive screener.

Not a bad thing, just he doesn't jump out to me as a player you'd break your transfer record for
A Box to Box CM for me, looks good, and what we are missing, and look at those lovely long balls for people to whine about :lol:

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Post by ksrclaret » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:29 am

Living in Leeds and as Leeds were constantly on Sky I've seen a lot of Kalvin Phillips. He was the player I wanted us to sign before the summer began.

He had an outstanding season at Leeds. He sat in front of the back four and protected them well (a touch old job given how forward thinking Leeds were last season). He constantly made himself available to take the ball off the back four and demonstrated a fine repertoire of passes. He's also played centre half for Leeds as well as the most advanced of the midfield, so he's versatile.

That said, if we do indeed want him, I think we've left it far too late to get him now.

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Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:31 am

KRBFC wrote:I wouldn't judge his end product from a pre season friendly, he's been more productive than Aaron Lennon in the last 2 years and looks to have potential. I think most pacey wingers struggle with consistency otherwise they're playing at the very top clubs. The French u21 kid looks way more of a threat than at least 2 of the 4 we have outwide currently and potential to improve.
Don’t disagree about Lennon, but this lad has got to be coached to attack both sides. He can’t just cut in every time.

Pace always kills, so there’s potential, but on the showing we’ve had 20 million is a big gamble.

I am enjoying the silence that’s coming out of Newcastle, they have nothing to moan about. Ashley’s giving them what they want.

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Post by BOYSIE31 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:41 am

Phillips would be a great signing - Burnley get it done

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Post by agreenwood » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:42 am

We won’t get Phillips now. Far too late for Leeds to get in a replacement and they don’t need the money.

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Post by Blyclaret » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:43 am

I agree Agreenwood. Think we left it too late
No way will Leeds sell their best player so late in the window.

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Post by ClaretAL » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:48 am

Blyclaret wrote:I agree Agreenwood. Think we left it too late
No way will Leeds sell their best player so late in the window.

Bielsa isnt so sure..... https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/ ... -1-9913872

But Villa reported to be interested too.

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Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:49 am

If he wants to move then we have a good chance.
Clubs don’t usually try to hold on to unhappy players

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Post by williamjblazkowicz » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:03 am

ClaretAL wrote:Bielsa isnt so sure..... https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/ ... -1-9913872

But Villa reported to be interested too.
At this stage, I think it would be quicker to come up with a list of players that Villa aren't interested in.
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Post by Colburn_Claret » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:04 am

ksrclaret wrote:If we were playing Championship football I'd be all for giving Benson the nod. I love seeing players coming through into the first team.

But it's so rare in PL football for an academy player to come in and be good enough straight away, and not only that, but to actually improve the side at the same time, because that's what we need. McNeil is a special talent and a special case.
The question isnt wether Benson is good enough for the premier league but would he be able to fill Corks boots. I leave that to those that know him better.
I would say that he, or any others of our development team, would benefit and learn more from playing in the first team. That doesn't mean any of them would make the step up, just it would make them better players.

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Post by Firthy » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:07 am

Really don't understand all the talk about us needing to sell before we buy.

We've reduced our wage bill, Crouch, Heaton, Ward and Vokes gone and Rodriguez, Pieters and BPF in.

We've spent £6.5m on Rodriguez, Pieters and BPF with Heaton going and not taking into account anything we received for Vokes.

We've got two free places in the squad unless Dunne comes in. Surely we can afford and entice at least one, ideally two midfielders to provide competition and cover.

If we only managed to get Phillips in exchange for Vydra + cash then that would at least strengthen the squad. Can't see much else happening at present.

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