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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:43 pm

The 20 million offer made public is another tool to unsettle Tarks, same one we used for Fry

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Post by Colburn_Claret » Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:43 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:Leicester make a derisory offer and it’s our board who can’t work out the valuation?
You've misread it if you think I was criticising the board. I was pointing out that they aren't that stupid.

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:45 pm

Braindead wrote:That's pretty much how release clauses work to be fair.
Isn't it the opposite in that the release clause value is the maximum the player will go for

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Post by WestMidsClaret » Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:47 pm

Release clause means if there's a £50m release clause and someone offers that they have to let the player speak to the club who offered it. Well it used to be that anyway lol.

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Post by Firthy » Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:48 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Isn't it the opposite in that the release clause value is the maximum the player will go for
Doesn't matter, it should still be the minimum he should go for.

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Post by ClaretAndJew » Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:49 pm

If a release clause is £50 million, that's the release clause. The player is free to be released from their contract if that price is met, subject to their personal terms with the other club.

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Post by jackmiggins » Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:49 pm

We had one for Trippier - if Tarks has one I would hope we did insert a high valuation - £50 M would seem right to me.

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:52 pm

Firthy wrote:Doesn't matter, it should still be the minimum he should go for.
That's a valid view but probably not one the club will share

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:54 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:You've misread it if you think I was criticising the board. I was pointing out that they aren't that stupid.
Apologies but “It isn't difficult to work out a valuation for Tarkowski, I can't believe the board can't work it out just as easily” sounded very much like you thought the board hadn’t/ couldn’t work it out.

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Post by BOYSIE31 » Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:01 pm

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:Would take McCarthy for sure.

Palace have McArthur, Milivojevic, Meyer, Kouyate, Camarasa.

Seem over subscribed at best.
No it's called adding more quality

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Post by Imploding Turtle » Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:04 pm

WestMidsClaret wrote:Release clause means if there's a £50m release clause and someone offers that they have to let the player speak to the club who offered it. Well it used to be that anyway lol.

Not to be confused with "release Claws", which is a command i taught my Alexa to fulfil for my pet lion any time someone knocks on my door in a far-right manner.

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Post by Imploding Turtle » Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:06 pm

WestMidsClaret wrote:Release clause means if there's a £50m release clause and someone offers that they have to let the player speak to the club who offered it. Well it used to be that anyway lol.

Not to be confused with "release Claus" which is what i promise to do if my kids behave themselves, otherwise no one anywhere gets Christmas this year.

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Post by jojomk1 » Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:07 pm

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:Would take McCarthy for sure.

Palace have McArthur, Milivojevic, Meyer, Kouyate, Camarasa.

Seem over subscribed at best.
When did Palace sign Camarasa?

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Post by tiger76 » Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:54 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:Maguire 85million
Ake 75 Million
Webster 20 million, no prom experience, no international caps

It isn't difficult to work out a valuation for Tarkowski, I can't believe the board can't work it out just as easily. If the reports of the offer from Leicester is true, then it's nothing short of insulting. In the boards shoes I'd tell them not to bother coming back.
Just like Maguire tarks has featured in England squads,now if Maguire is worth 85 million(he's overpriced BTW),Tarks must be worth 50 million of anyone's money.

You're quite right to highlight Webster,and if we had been relegated,then i'd say 30 million would possibly have got them Tarks,given our circumstances.

20 million they're taking the p**s,to quote another Maguire,

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Post by Goobs » Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:12 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Not to be confused with "release Claus" which is what i promise to do if my kids behave themselves, otherwise no one anywhere gets Christmas this year.
Certainly not to be confused with "release clothes" which if done in the wrong places could get you into some very serious trouble.

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Post by BOYSIE31 » Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:30 pm

Im just waiting for Jones to be announced
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Post by jrgbfc » Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:30 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:The 20 million offer made public is another tool to unsettle Tarks, same one we used for Fry
Only works if the player actually wants to leave though. Fry will probably look at what's happened to Gibson and think why would I want to go to Burnley?
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Post by Firthy » Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:33 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:Im just waiting for Jones to be announced
He'll be the new midfielder we've all been waiting for :shock: :? :D

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Post by CombatClaret » Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:34 pm

tiger76 wrote:Just like Maguire tarks has featured in England squads,now if Maguire is worth 85 million(he's overpriced BTW),Tarks must be worth 50 million of anyone's money.
Taking the claret tinted specs off for a minute Maguire has 20 caps and had a stand out world cup. Tarks has two friendlies, he played internationaly but he's not 'an international' yet.
I don't think those two caps are worth the £10+ million people seem to add.

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Post by mdd2 » Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:35 pm

What has happened to recent signings of Gibson, Vydra, Wells, Hart can only encourage those who want segs on their arses to rush to sign for us

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Post by Reecey1987 » Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:35 pm

Firthy wrote:He'll be the new midfielder we've all been waiting for :shock: :? :D
I thought jones had left to go somewere else then he turns up again ?

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Post by elwaclaret » Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:42 pm

ksrclaret wrote:The idea of having a thread that only contains links and no comments is stupid and laughable.

If you want that go and read News Now. This is a message board for discussion. What part of that don't you understand?
Discussion not hurling insults... do you need the difference explaining? I can use small words if you like smart ass

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Post by NickBFC » Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:07 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:I thought jones had left to go somewere else then he turns up again ?
Me too, bit odd he is back playing for us. Maybe we are going to sign him if other targets fail to materialise?! :oops:

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Post by LoveCurryPies » Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:13 pm

I seriously hope we don’t sign Jones.

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Post by ksrclaret » Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:24 pm

It would be absolutely unthinkable to sign David Jones again.

He wasn't good enough 3 summers ago for us so we let him leave. It surely won't happen... will it?

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:25 pm

If we sign Jones it would pretty pathetic all things considered.

I can’t see it happening though.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:34 pm

jrgbfc wrote:Only works if the player actually wants to leave though. Fry will probably look at what's happened to Gibson and think why would I want to go to Burnley?
possibly, or he might look at what happened with Tarks after he left Brentford, or Pope after he left Charlton etc

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Post by claretspice » Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:35 pm

But there's no reason to think we have any sort of intention to sign Jones is there?

In fact, Dyche has said we don't intend to, and we're just enabling him to train. OK he went somewhere else in the hope of earning a deal - that obviously didn't work out, so why wouldn't we have him back again?
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Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:41 pm

I get the idea of helping out Jones by letting him train with us but why did he play today. ? We have an under 23 squad and an under 18 squad full of players who would benefit from the experience.One of them who we have just given a contract to, got 10 minutes as a substitute for Jones.
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Post by Murger » Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:44 pm

Jones will end up signing and all the happy clappers will be cheering it as a new signing. A fairly sad state of affairs where it even looks like a possibility.

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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:45 pm

Very bizarre him turning out for under 23’s again.

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Post by BOYSIE31 » Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:49 pm

If he does what will the happy clappers say ?

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Post by jedi_master » Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:50 pm

There is absolutely no reason for Jones to be playing in friendlies that seem to be in place to give fitness to first team and Under 23 players, unless.....?

I am pretty certain we would never consider signing him as it would be the most insane thing we’ve possibly ever done, but I definitely am at this point of the opinion that we will not be signing anyone at all and possibly just seeing Vydra, Wells and Tarkowski leave.

Cue meltdown, and rightly so.

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Post by claretspice » Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:50 pm

You don't think that playing 90 minutes alongside a player of Dave Jones' experience and intelligence won't have been a huge boost for Benson's development?

Not only is it not worth getting your knickers in a twist about because it's a friendly clearly arranged to be a bit of a hybrid of development game and a chance for some players who have played less in pre-season to get some minutes, so no juniors have actually lost of out on game time they'd have expected, the reason why Jones' presence might have been seen as helpful is blindingly obvious from a quick look at who he was playing alongside.
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Post by Royboyclaret » Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:52 pm

ksrclaret wrote:It would be absolutely unthinkable to sign David Jones again.

He wasn't good enough 3 summers ago for us so we let him leave. It surely won't happen... will it?
Even Tall Paul will struggle to justify this one!!
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Post by Pearcey » Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:53 pm

claretspice wrote:You don't think that playing 90 minutes alongside a player of Dave Jones' experience and intelligence won't have been a huge boost for Benson's development?

Not only is it not worth getting your knickers in a twist about because it's a friendly clearly arranged to be a bit of a hybrid of development game and a chance for some players who have played less in pre-season to get some minutes, so no juniors have actually lost of out on game time they'd have expected, the reason why Jones' presence might have been seen as helpful is blindingly obvious from a quick look at who he was playing alongside.
There’s no place for common sense on here! You have to whip yourself into a frenzy and flood your keyboard with tears! It’s the done thing you know.
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Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:56 pm

Benson has featured heavily in preseason , playing alongside current First Team players as opposed to someone who left on a free 3 years ago.

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Post by TVC15 » Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:56 pm

jedi_master wrote:There is absolutely no reason for Jones to be playing in friendlies that seem to be in place to give fitness to first team and Under 23 players, unless.....?

I am pretty certain we would never consider signing him as it would be the most insane thing we’ve possibly ever done, but I definitely am at this point of the opinion that we will not be signing anyone at all and possibly just seeing Vydra, Wells and Tarkowski leave.

Cue meltdown, and rightly so.
I wish I would have bought shares in M & S now. There are going to be so many twisted knickers this Thursday teatime in Burnley.

“The most insane thing we’ve possibly ever done” - have a word with yourself please
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Post by ksrclaret » Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:00 pm

Pearcey wrote:There’s no place for common sense on here! You have to whip yourself into a frenzy and flood your keyboard with tears! It’s the done thing you know.
Could you mention lip trembling next time please?

I almost had a full house then you little tease :(

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Post by ksrclaret » Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:02 pm

TVC15 wrote:There are going to be so many twisted knickers this Thursday teatime in Burnley.
I reckon Dyche's y fronts could get pretty twisted too.

His limp will be even more pronounced as he walks to his dug out on Saturday.

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Post by jedi_master » Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:02 pm

TVC15 wrote:I wish I would have bought shares in M & S now. There are going to be so many twisted knickers this Thursday teatime in Burnley.

“The most insane thing we’ve possibly ever done” - have a word with yourself please
Give me a more laughable transfer we have made than if (and it’s surely a huge if) we were to re-sign David Jones who we let go three years ago and is 35 in November?

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Post by claretspice » Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:08 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:Benson has featured heavily in preseason , playing alongside current First Team players as opposed to someone who left on a free 3 years ago.
Does that mean he can't learn from David Jones?

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Post by Greenmile » Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:11 pm

jedi_master wrote:Give me a more laughable transfer we have made than if (and it’s surely a huge if) we were to re-sign David Jones who we let go three years ago and is 35 in November?
Remco van der Schaaf?
Frederic Nimani?
Dane Richards?
Besart Berisha?
Diego Penny?

I’m sure there are plenty more - those are just off the top of my head

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:14 pm

Greenmile wrote:Remco van der Schaaf?
Frederic Nimani?
Dane Richards?
Besart Berisha?
Diego Penny?

I’m sure there are plenty more - those are just off the top of my head
To be fair, I suspect we didn’t know they weren’t good enough at the point we signed them. They turned out to be poor signings.

If we signed Jones now, we’d be doing so knowing full well he isn’t good enough so it would be as laughable as people are suggesting.

It’s for that reason I just can’t see it happening.

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Post by agreenwood » Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:17 pm

Jones is on trial. If he wasn’t before, he is now.

I’m struggling to recall another player we’ve “allowed to train” for over a month. We also took him to our preseason trip to Portugal and now he’s playing in friendly games alongside senior pros.

If we don’t sign a midfielder this week,I think he’ll sign a 1-year deal next week.

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Post by BFC88 » Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:18 pm

Fingers crossed we get at least a quality CM in before the deadline. Will be yet another **** poor window if not

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:18 pm

claretspice wrote:But there's no reason to think we have any sort of intention to sign Jones is there?

In fact, Dyche has said we don't intend to, and we're just enabling him to train. OK he went somewhere else in the hope of earning a deal - that obviously didn't work out, so why wouldn't we have him back again?
Is it likely the game would have been watched by scouts from other clubs, so Dyche could give him chance to impress someone?

Equally, giving Vydra a full game could have been a chance for someone to watch him and improve the chance of selling him (assuming we’re trying to get shot).

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Post by Taffy on the wing » Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:21 pm

claretspice wrote:You don't think that playing 90 minutes alongside a player of Dave Jones' experience and intelligence won't have been a huge boost for Benson's development?

Not only is it not worth getting your knickers in a twist about because it's a friendly clearly arranged to be a bit of a hybrid of development game and a chance for some players who have played less in pre-season to get some minutes, so no juniors have actually lost of out on game time they'd have expected, the reason why Jones' presence might have been seen as helpful is blindingly obvious from a quick look at who he was playing alongside.
You're wasting your time mate!........The whining babies have taken over this thread.
Talking sense means nothing to them.....they feed on negativity!
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Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:24 pm

Greenmile wrote:Remco van der Schaaf?
Frederic Nimani?
Dane Richards?
Besart Berisha?
Diego Penny?

I’m sure there are plenty more - those are just off the top of my head
Largely signed when the club was skint...which we certainly arent now.

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Post by jedi_master » Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:24 pm

Greenmile wrote:Remco van der Schaaf?
Frederic Nimani?
Dane Richards?
Besart Berisha?
Diego Penny?

I’m sure there are plenty more - those are just off the top of my head
All four were signed with no knowledge of how poor they would be - indeed, Besart is only on this list due to injury trouble.

You have just listed a bunch of poor signings, not ones that meet the criteria of signing a near 35 year old who we deemed not good enough three years ago, who has had a very poor three years at Wednesday. That’s without even mentioning our own established Premier League status with a very healthy bank balance behind us.

Edit - Worth mentioning that this entire debate is going to be irrelevant as I am still of the opinion there is no way we would ever consider it.
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