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[Bin Ont Turf]

We can all have our theories and opinions, but the bottom line is that it would be f***ing laughable if we took David Jones on.

In fact I've had to change my pants twice just thinking about it.

[TVC15]

Give me a more laughable transfer we have made than if (and it’s surely a huge if) we were to re-sign David Jones who we let go three years ago and is 35 in November?

Either you’re around 6 or 7 years old or you have a very selective memory.
I could very easily name you 50 worse transfers - but you know what I simply cannot be arsed.
The drama queenery on this board is reaching unprecedented heights - it will be such a shame that come Saturday we will have some actual football to discuss.

[randomclaret2]

Whining Babies
Bed Wetters
Lip Tremblers
...the list of name calling grows longer.

[jedi_master]

Either you’re around 6 or 7 years old or you have a very selective memory.
I could very easily name you 50 worse transfers - but you know what I simply cannot be arsed.
The drama queenery on this board is reaching unprecedented heights - it will be such a shame that come Saturday we will have some actual football to discuss.

I said laughable, not worse.

We could all list a million crap signings, that’s not what this discussion is about.

[ClaretAndJew]

Sandal wearers

[claretspice]

All four were signed with no knowledge of how poor they would be - indeed, Besart is only on this list due to injury trouble.

You have just listed a bunch of poor signings, not ones that meet the criteria of signing a near 35 year old who we deemed not good enough three years ago, who has had a very poor three years at Wednesday. That’s without even mentioning our own established Premier League status with a very healthy bank balance behind us.

Edit - Worth mentioning that this entire debate is going to be irrelevant as I am still of the opinion there is no way we would ever consider it.

So what's the purpose of your contributions about what it would mean if we did sign him?

[jedi_master]

So what's the purpose of your contributions about what it would mean if we did sign him?

I replied to others who were discussing the prospects of signing David Jones, with my opinion on how laughable it would be if we were to sign David Jones.

[Greenmile]

Largely signed when the club was skint...which we certainly arent now.

I reckon they all cost more over the course of their contracts (adjusted for football levels of inflation) than Jones would as a one-year stopgap.

I wasn’t too bothered either way about signing Jones (if we can’t find the CM we’re clearly looking for). Now I hope it does happen, just to see the epic levels of crying on here.

[jedi_master]

I reckon they all cost more over the course of their contracts (adjusted for football levels of inflation) than Jones would as a one-year stopgap.

I’ve no doubt you are correct.

What does that tell you?

[BOYSIE31]

There is absolutely no reason for Jones to be playing in friendlies that seem to be in place to give fitness to first team and Under 23 players, unless.....?

I am pretty certain we would never consider signing him as it would be the most insane thing we’ve possibly ever done, but I definitely am at this point of the opinion that we will not be signing anyone at all and possibly just seeing Vydra, Wells and Tarkowski leave.

Cue meltdown, and rightly so.

Why we signed wells when he was injured / signed crouch who couldn't get a game a division below / spent 28 million in players and not play them

[FCBurnley]

Would not be as bad as the Crouch signing.

[Greenmile]

I’ve no doubt you are correct.

What does that tell you?

1 - that signing Jones would be less “laughable” than any of them

2 - that randomclaret’s point was entirely irrelevant, at best

[TVC15]

I said laughable, not worse.

We could all list a million crap signings, that’s not what this discussion is about.

Laughable / worse - just semantics. It’s all the same - it’s effectively a transfer you don’t agree with.
I don’t agree with signing Jones either - but I can easily name 50 signings I disagreed with more.

Seriously it does not justify the negativity and outrage that you are showing....even if he signs we are still left with arguably the best squad of players most of us have ever seen.
Enjoy it whilst it lasts...because when we signed Joe Gallagher I really strongly disagreed with that. I was working in the Sparrow Hawk hotel behind the bar and he was stopping there and when I saw him limping around I knew the rumours about him being lame were true - and he got in the first eleven with that very same limp.

[ksrclaret]

The bed wetters on here really will start crying over their keyboard when they see negative posts on here on Thursday evening.

I hope we weaken our squad just so I get the chance to see it x

[summitclaret]

I thought I had seen it all, but we now have people trying to defend the possible resigning of Jonah instead of a ready made prem cm or someone for the future. Some people are so easy to please that it beggars belief.

[jedi_master]

Laughable / worse - just semantics. It’s all the same - it’s effectively a transfer you don’t agree with.
I don’t agree with signing Jones either - but I can easily name 50 signings I disagreed with more.

Seriously it does not justify the negativity and outrage that you are showing....even if he signs we are still left with arguably the best squad of players most of us have ever seen.
Enjoy it whilst it lasts...because when we signed Joe Gallagher I really strongly disagreed with that. I was working in the Sparrow Hawk hotel behind the bar and he was stopping there and when I saw him limping around I knew the rumours about him being lame were true - and he got in the first eleven with that very same limp.

I am a lot more positive than I am coming across, believe me. I love this team. I’m 32, I’ve only ever seen an upwards trajectory in my lifetime - and I don’t take it for granted.

I just want to see the money that we clearly have be invested to ensure we are at least trying to remain competitive. Surely that’s what we all want?

As I say, this debate will be something that we can laugh at in a few days time when Jones has signed for the likes of Blackpool or Burton Albion etc, which, genuinely, is his level now. That’s not doing him a disservice, I was one of the few fans of his on this messageboard (he got a lot of unwarranted criticism) and certainly wish him well.

[NL Claret]

Why we signed wells when he was injured / signed crouch who couldn't get a game a division below / spent 28 million in players and not play them

Have we become a victim of our success?

No link provided.

[Bfcboyo]

We can all have our theories and opinions, but the bottom line is that it would be f***ing laughable if we took David Jones on.

In fact I've had to change my pants twice just thinking about it.

Won't happen . When we reappoint Brian Laws as Dyche exits at 9am tomorrow the deal will collapse.

Don't fret.

[joey13]

I reckon they all cost more over the course of their contracts (adjusted for football levels of inflation) than Jones would as a one-year stopgap.

I wasn’t too bothered either way about signing Jones (if we can’t find the CM we’re clearly looking for). Now I hope it does happen, just to see the epic levels of crying on here.

I hope we weaken our team just so I can see the reaction of other fans , call yourself a Burnley fan , you’re an utter disgrace

[Darthlaw]

Appointing Laws at 5pm on Thursday would be world class trolling on the part of BFC.

Part of me would like to see the meltdown.

[Bordeauxclaret]

Listen if we are signing any former midfielder it’s going to be Dean Marney alright.
No arguments.

[Pearcey]

I thought I had seen it all, but we now have people trying to defend the possible resigning of Jonah instead of a ready made prem cm or sineone firctge future. Some people are so easy to please that it beggars belief.

Has anyone said they want Jones to sign? No doubt that it would be a backward step but there are a lot of people getting all worked up about nothing. If the window shuts and we haven’t signed a quality centre mid then it will have been a disappointing window. I’d just rather wait until it’s all over before commenting.

[Greenmile]

I hope we weaken our team just so I can see the reaction of other fans , call yourself a Burnley fan , you’re an utter disgrace

- how would making a signing weaken our team? Nobody is suggesting Jones would be first name on the team sheet.

- it’s only a game, mate. Chin up.

[Greenmile]

Has anyone said they want Jones to sign?

I have, but only to see how upset folk like Joey and Boysie get.

Edit - and how could I have forgotten right-winger? That would be a perfect storm for him - a manager he hates signing a player he hates for next to no money. The meltdown would be epic.

[FactualFrank]

Pablo Hernandez rumour but could be made up of course.

[TVC15]

I thought I had seen it all, but we now have people trying to defend the possible resigning of Jonah instead of a ready made prem cm or sineone firctge future. Some people are so easy to please that it beggars belief.

You just see what you want to see
Nobody has said they want to sign him as far as I can see - the difference is that some with a bit more perspective than you don’t see it as the end of the world. We’d still have 24 other players - most of which have done pretty well in the last few years.
If you think Jones is league one standard you should see our 4th goalkeeper !

[jedi_master]

Pablo Hernandez rumour but could be made up of course.

Getting on but he is class.

[Tricky Trevor]

I get the idea of helping out Jones by letting him train with us but why did he play today. ? We have an under 23 squad and an under 18 squad full of players who would benefit from the experience.One of them who we have just given a contract to, got 10 minutes as a substitute for Jones.

Maybe SD thinks his experience will improve their game as an on field coach but you can be sure thought was put into it and he won't be anywhere near our first team.

[Right_winger]

Jones signing wouldn’t change anything, because he does practically nada on a football pitch.

[Greenmile]

...Nobody has said they want to sign him as far as I can see...

I’m beginning to wonder if anyone can even see my posts.

Maybe everyone has me on their foe list. Fair enough.

[burnley007]

This has to be the most pathetic thread ever on this forum.
It's like a recording of my worst drunken arguments at 2am, all jumbled up into even more idiotic nonsense.

[FactualFrank]

Getting on but he is class.

15 million. Twitter though so could be made up

[TVC15]

I am a lot more positive than I am coming across, believe me. I love this team. I’m 32, I’ve only ever seen an upwards trajectory in my lifetime - and I don’t take it for granted.

I just want to see the money that we clearly have be invested to ensure we are at least trying to remain competitive. Surely that’s what we all want?

As I say, this debate will be something that we can laugh at in a few days time when Jones has signed for the likes of Blackpool or Burton Albion etc, which, genuinely, is his level now. That’s not doing him a disservice, I was one of the few fans of his on this messageboard (he got a lot of unwarranted criticism) and certainly wish him well.

And I have argued many times that we have plenty of leeway in our financial position to be spending more money on transfers and wages than we have done. But I can also accept that whilst I might have a good understanding of football finances I have very little clue as to the actual day to day workings of the club and how difficult it is to get players in or the budget constraints and parameters Dyche is having to work with. I am pretty sure that whatever Dyche does he does it in the best interest of the club.

[TheFamilyCat]

15 million. Twitter though so could be made up

I can’t believe for one minute we would pay £15m for a 34-year old.

[Dark Cloud]

And I have argued many times that we have plenty of leeway in our financial position to be spending more money on transfers and wages than we have done. But I can also accept that whilst I might have a good understanding of football finances I have very little clue as to the actual day to day workings of the club and how difficult it is to get players in or the budget constraints and parameters Dyche is having to work with. I am pretty sure that whatever Dyche does he does it in the best interest of the club.

Absolutely agree, but surely we're better off signing nobody than re signing Jones at this stage of his career. (And as others have said, I was also actually a fan of Jones when he was "relevant" to us)

[Swizzlestick]

Pablo Hernandez rumour but could be made up of course.

Let’s just make a bid for every member of the Leeds squad and see what happens.

[TVC15]

Absolutely agree, but surely we're better off signing nobody than re signing Jones at this stage of his career. (And as others have said, I was also actually a fan of Jones when he was "relevant" to us)

Yep probably - but we don’t see or understand all that is going on and given the controversy or confusion that such a signing would cause amongst fans I think if we did sign him that Garlick and Dyche should explain to the fans why we had signed him....usually I would say that they don’t have to justify their decision or signings because they have earned their credibility but IF we did sign Jones for most fans that’s going to need some explaining.

[Iloveyoubrady]

Just give Leeds what they want for Phillips and get it done. £15 - £20m and Vydra should do it.

[RVclaret]

Tick tock

[Dark Cloud]

Yep probably - but we don’t see or understand all that is going on and given the controversy or confusion that such a signing would cause amongst fans I think if we did sign him that Garlick and Dyche should explain to the fans why we had signed him....usually I would say that they don’t have to justify their decision or signings because they have earned their credibility but IF we did sign Jones for most fans that’s going to need some explaining.

Agree up to a point. They don't necessarily have to "explain" it as such, but they have to realise the message it would send out to fans, our players, other potential signings and to other clubs would be very poor and would basically be saying "we tried hard, but we couldn't attract a decent quality CM to the club as the ones we looked at preferred to go elsewhere, so we've signed a guy we released 3 years ago, who is now 35 and who has been let go by a poor Championship side" Mmmm!

[Quicknick]

We haven't signed him.

[ksrclaret]

We haven't signed him.

Yes we have.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/23465083" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Father Jack]

Surprised we didn’t go in for James McCarthy. £8m and doubt ridiculous wage demands. Felt like an obvious choice to me.

[jojomk1]

Haven't signed who
David Jones
Plenty of time cos nobody else will go near him
Presume CT has his article ready

[KlyBfc]

In an absolute emergency Dave Jones wouldn’t be the worst person to have to bring on / in. As in the case of a huge injury crisis (or with our current midfielders just an injury crisis). For example I liked the look of benson at Fleetwood but if we are nearing the end of the season and need a body in a relegation 6pointer I’d rather we started Jones. So I get why Dyche would resort to someone he knows and trusts.

However despite that perspective should we sign Dave Jones as our only centre midfielder incoming, there is absolute no doubt that our recruitment team are an absolute embarrassment, be it those who identify the players or those responsible for getting signings over the line. Crouch was bad enough but combined with this would be god dam ridiculous.

[jojomk1]

Yes we have.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/23465083" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Brilliant !!!

[TVC15]

Agree up to a point. They don't necessarily have to "explain" it as such, but they have to realise the message it would send out to fans, our players, other potential signings and to other clubs would be very poor and would basically be saying "we tried hard, but we couldn't attract a decent quality CM to the club as the ones we looked at preferred to go elsewhere, so we've signed a guy we released 3 years ago, who is now 35 and who has been let go by a poor Championship side" Mmmm!

Yep or it could be along the lines that we tried to sign x and y player but the demands were too much and we signed Jones as emergency cover whilst he also looks to undertake his coaching badges / help develop the under 23s etc
I’ll just be glad when the transfer window is over and the football starts again...if we do get relegated it could very well be because we failed to strengthen or we could just as easily make a similar signing to the £35m midfielder Fulham signed and everyone will he happy for a short while and we still get relegated because he turns out to be sh-ite......when you are club like Burnley no decision we make is an easy one which we can guarantee survival. The irony will probably be that when we do go down (because 100% we will) it will be after spending a fortune in a transfer window !!

[Paul Waine]

I’m beginning to wonder if anyone can even see my posts.

Maybe everyone has me on their foe list. Fair enough.

Hi Greenmile, "liked" just to show that I've not "foe'd" you.

[jojomk1]

In an absolute emergency Dave Jones wouldn’t be the worst person to have to bring on / in. As in the case of a huge injury crisis (or with our current midfielders just an injury crisis). For example I liked the look of benson at Fleetwood but if we are nearing the end of the season and need a body in a relegation 6pointer I’d rather we started Jones. So I get why Dyche would resort to someone he knows and trusts.

However despite that perspective should we sign Dave Jones as our only centre midfielder incoming, there is absolute no doubt that our recruitment team are an absolute embarrassment, be it those who identify the players or those responsible for getting signings over the line. Crouch was bad enough but combined with this would be god dam ridiculous.

He is good for the dressing room

[Dark Cloud]

I’m beginning to wonder if anyone can even see my posts.

Maybe everyone has me on their foe list. Fair enough.

Just to say you're definitely on my foe list (of one)