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claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:31 pm

glad to see you're active on the board today CT!

...is it 'cos you've unscrewed the cap off your jar of Quink & you're ready to complete your article?

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:31 pm

It's pretty disheartening to see that CT seems to be indicating albeit in code, that we ain't going to get what we need in cm and even worse, it is going to get worse in the future.

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:32 pm

summitclaret wrote:It's pretty disheartening to see that CT seems to be indicating albeit in code, that we ain't going to get what we need in cm and even worse, it is going to get worse in the future.

lowering fans expectations is Dyche's job!

Longsider · Post by **Longsider** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:33 pm

Paulclaret wrote:https://www.teamtalk.com/news/exclusive ... l-city-man

Josh Brownhill from Bristol City. At least it's a rumour with a link

Admin please delete this post. It doesn't contain any argument, bickering or aggression towards others.

williamjblazkowicz · Post by **williamjblazkowicz** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:35 pm

HarryPottsDesk wrote:Could all the posters who think they know better than Dyche and Garlick how to run a football club, and how to recruit better players in the transfer windows, post their credentials for knowing better. That way the rest of us will know whether to pay any attention to them at all.

No problem. I took Spennymoor Town from the National League North to the Premier League in just 7 seasons. We went on to win the Premier League title five consecutive times, adding two Champions League trophies and an FA Cup in the process. Much of this success was down to my extremely diligent scouting which saw me unearth hidden gems from the likes of France, Hungary and Turkmenistan.*

*All experience gained in Football Manager 2018

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:35 pm

summitclaret wrote:It's pretty disheartening to see that CT seems to be indicating albeit in code, that we ain't going to get what we need in cm and even worse, it is going to get worse in the future.

Not disheartening at all. I just understand our club, the size of it and how difficult it is for us. The ones who have problems or who are disheartened are those who, in my view, are totally unrealistic.

Don’t think I don’t get just as frustrated as everyone else though but I do think that if we can keep our key players, and that’s a challenge in itself, and maybe now add a midfielder, it will have been a good window.

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:36 pm

FactualFrank wrote:The potential problem with moving McNeil away from LM is our injury-prone wide players in Lennon, Brady and JBG.

Barnes & JRod have played left and Hendrick was better than solid on the right. No one can deny we have an extremely flexible squad who always manage to fill gaps as required.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:37 pm

Nothing much on social media at the moment other than Boro expect us to double our offer of Dael Fry to nearer £16m. However, I can't see why we'd do that unless someone such as Tarky is leaving. Maybe we told Leicester we won't sell him unless we first find a replacement.

Down_Rover · Post by **Down_Rover** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:38 pm

Heard on Talksport that we were competing with Reading to sign George Puscas from Inter.

Googled him and everything points to him signing for Reading, 7.5m euros

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:40 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Not disheartening at all. I just understand our club, the size of it and how difficult it is for us. The ones who have problems or who are disheartened are those who, in my view, are totally unrealistic.

Don’t think I don’t get just as frustrated as everyone else though but I do think that if we can keep our key players, and that’s a challenge in itself, and maybe now add a midfielder, it will have been a good window.

Don't see how anyone can disagree with your second para without the word maybe in it However its not consistent with your first para.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:40 pm

Matt Law (Daily Telegraph Football News Correspondent) says Chelsea and Burnley are currently in talks regarding Drinkwater - presumably about wages and who pays what.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:41 pm

FactualFrank wrote:The potential problem with moving McNeil away from LM is our injury-prone wide players in Lennon, Brady and JBG.

JBG - definitely
Brady - one bad injury really and the usual problems coming back
Lennon - injury prone?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:42 pm

summitclaret wrote:Don't see how anyone can disagree with your second para without the word maybe in it However its not consistent with your first para.

Disheartened and frustrated are not the same thing.

Winstonswhite · Post by **Winstonswhite** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:43 pm

Has anything actually come out of why Brady went off on Saturday. I’ve never known any player go off for being winded before, which is what he was indicating?

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:44 pm

Winstonswhite wrote:Has anything actually come out of why Brady went off on Saturday. I’ve never known any player go off for being winded before, which is what he was indicating?

He missed the previous games because of an injury to his ribs - so it had to be that on Saturday

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:46 pm

TVC15 wrote:He missed the previous games because of an injury to his ribs - so it had to be that on Saturday

Looking at the highlights, he did appear to be holding his ribs.

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:47 pm

Winstonswhite wrote:Has anything actually come out of why Brady went off on Saturday. I’ve never known any player go off for being winded before, which is what he was indicating?

ongoing problem (aggrevated a) rib injury

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:48 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Matt Law (Daily Telegraph Football News Correspondent) says Chelsea and Burnley are currently in talks regarding Drinkwater - presumably about wages and who pays what.

Or his just caught up with news being reported everywhere else. Some reporters call it making enquiries, others call it in talks....

COBBLE · Post by **COBBLE** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:48 pm

Can't disagree with CT's assessment at all. Medium term survival will depend on buying potential and finding and developing young players and selling when they are at their peak value - hard to take - but its the Burnley way as the Chairman has stated. Yes sometimes we have to bring in older players without much resale value to stay competitive on the pitch.

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:50 pm

from LeicestershireLive:

'...Drinkwater looked to be undergoing a resurgence at Chelsea, featuring in four of the club's six pre-season friendlies but didn't appear at all for the Blues in their final match of the summer at Borussia Monchengladbach on Saturday...'

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:53 pm

Winstonswhite wrote:Has anything actually come out of why Brady went off on Saturday. I’ve never known any player go off for being winded before, which is what he was indicating?

He’s got a rib injury and got whacked there again. They are not serious injuries but I can confirm from experience that they are bloody painful and if you are not careful it can cause more damage.

BOYSIE31 · Post by **BOYSIE31** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:53 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Same again in January with your utter drivel Boysie.

With our board - yes quite possible but we will know either way by then and Jan is a stupid market unless you are desperate

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:53 pm

Vydra reportedly has handed in a transfer request:

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/s ... ean-dyche/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:54 pm

Dyche scouted Brownhill when he was at Preston.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:55 pm

jedi_master wrote:Dyche scouted Brownhill when he was at Preston.

We once signed his brother

BOYSIE31 · Post by **BOYSIE31** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:57 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I’m not holding my breath with Defour and I do think we need a new midfielder. I’m sure we’d have signed one too had we been able to strike a deal.

But we are not one injury short of having one central midfielder. And I also think we might see McNeil move in in there at some time and there is Benson coming through.

I certainly hope we dont have to move Mc Neil infield because he will be far more effective out wide and too lightweight in the middle in my opinion.

BOYSIE31 · Post by **BOYSIE31** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:58 pm

Pearcey wrote:Where did you get that info?

Just a thought - how many games has he played in 2 seasons ?

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:59 pm

Lennon hadn't payed too much football
Barton was a complete misfit

Drinkwater would be a sensational signing for us IF we can get him

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:06 pm

If Brownhill’s the best we can do now then get it done, he’s a decent player, good age and the right type.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:07 pm

Brighton and Norwich apparently also want Drinkwater. Out of us 3, I'd fancy him going to Brighton.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:10 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Brighton and Norwich apparently also want Drinkwater. Out of us 3, I'd fancy him going to Brighton.

Agreed. Well anyway if the number of clubs we’re competing with is more than 0, then we have already lost.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:13 pm

SGr wrote:Agreed. Well anyway if the number of clubs we’re competing with is more than 0, then we have already lost.

I tend to agree. Although Simon Phillips (45,000+ followers) is also saying we're talking to Chelsea, suggesting Brighton and Norwich may be just sniffing around.

Cleveleys_claret · Post by **Cleveleys_claret** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:14 pm

The likes of Bournemouth and Brighton spend several million on signing kids with potential. Most Burnley fans then complain we are not doing the same by signing stop gap older players. How many of the Ibe's and the spanish fullbacks Bournemouth biught have been a success. Likewise Brighton last season, brought in about 10 players and not one for the first team but a spend of well over 50 million on them.

Who is to say we arent being a bit cleverer about it. Look at McNeil, cost us nothing. Looking at the u23s now there is Dunne, Koiki, Glennon-whatever, Richardson, Benson who could all possibly step up into our 1st team squad and do a job if required. Just because they havent cost us anything doesnt mean they wont be as good as an unknown spanish fullback B'mouth signed for 17million with about 3 games under his belt in a season.

My issue isnt as much not signing anyone but if we are happy to go with having 2/3 kids as part of the 1st team squad when required just say it. I know then there is the concern of expectation weighing heavily on the players shoulders but most arent 16 or even 19. They are 20 plus, sooner or later they will have to sink or swim and maybe that little push and hearing they are good enough will give them that extra bit of motivation needed to reach the top

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:15 pm

Some on here need to get a grip.

Given our form in 2019 has us as the 7th best premier league team, how easy is it going to be to improve on that. If we nab Drinkwater this has been an excellent window. If we don’t it is fine and no reason we can’t be comfortably mid table pushing the top 10.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:16 pm

Must say that I tend to agree that Brownhill, at roughly £15-16 million, doesn't seem like too bad value. Very similar profile to Hendrick when we signed him 3 years ago and the rate of inflation on his fee seems about right to me. He's different type of player to Kalvin Philips but the fee seems a lot more realistic.

Drinkwater would be an excellent signing on paper but I always worry about the effect on dressing room harmony of signing loan players who are on huge wages at their parent clubs, who it is assumed will displaced one of our permanent squad members.

The lad in France looks again, on paper, like a very interesting prospect and reasonable value in the current market - but again you always wonder why these sorts of prospects haven't been picked up already if they're as good as they appear.

But they're all promising links. Life in the window yet.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:17 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I tend to agree. Although Simon Phillips (45,000+ followers) is also saying we're talking to Chelsea, suggesting Brighton and Norwich may be just sniffing around.

He’s got it from Matt Law, a Daily Telegraph journalist. Although it may be he’s just mis-quoting the Sky ‘made contact’ story.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:20 pm

martin_p wrote:He’s got it from Matt Law, a Daily Telegraph journalist. Although it may be he’s just mis-quoting the Sky ‘made contact’ story.

Yep. Posted it further up this page, but he seems to be backing him up.

Time will tell anyway. We'll need to move fast on this one I feel.

rob63 · Post by **rob63** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:23 pm

PremierLeagueClass wrote:Think we will sign anyone Tony?

He's too busy writing out articles on players just in case!

Paddy1882 · Post by **Paddy1882** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:24 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:
My issue isnt as much not signing anyone but if we are happy to go with having 2/3 kids as part of the 1st team squad when required just say it.

Absolutely bang on the money with that sentence for me!! I would 100% be more than happy if Dyche came out and said that’s us done and Benson, Dunne and koiki will be officially part of the first team squad!! Give the lads a chance to prove themselves

John Gayles Shoulder · Post by **John Gayles Shoulder** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:25 pm

ClaretTony wrote:We once signed his brother

Maybe we hoped the grass would be greener

BOYSIE31 · Post by **BOYSIE31** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:25 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I think your opinion is wrong. There is a level of risk you can take and then there is trying to sign a player who will improve your team at this level. Often, and I know it’s proving to be the case, we can’t afford some of those players.

Maybe its time to give up then and accept being a championship club or lower as people will soon get bored anyway.

williamjblazkowicz · Post by **williamjblazkowicz** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:27 pm

John Gayles Shoulder wrote:Maybe we hoped the grass would be greener

Stop joshing around.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:29 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:Maybe its time to give up then and accept being a championship club or lower as people will soon get bored anyway.

There can’t be many toys left in that pram now.

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:29 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:Maybe its time to give up then and accept being a championship club or lower as people will soon get bored anyway.

Maybe you could spare us your total and complete utter drivel for longer than 5 minutes.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:31 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:Maybe its time to give up then and accept being a championship club or lower as people will soon get bored anyway.

Maybe you could give up and go back to supporting that championship club down the road that you clearly have an affinity with.....before they venture back to league 1....again

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:31 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:Maybe its time to give up then and accept being a championship club or lower as people will soon get bored anyway.

It's rubbish like this that's annoying.

Why can't we accept that we're a PL club that's likely to be in a relegation battle most seasons?

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:32 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:The likes of Bournemouth and Brighton spend several million on signing kids with potential. Most Burnley fans then complain we are not doing the same by signing stop gap older players. How many of the Ibe's and the spanish fullbacks Bournemouth biught have been a success. Likewise Brighton last season, brought in about 10 players and not one for the first team but a spend of well over 50 million on them.

Who is to say we arent being a bit cleverer about it. Look at McNeil, cost us nothing. Looking at the u23s now there is Dunne, Koiki, Glennon-whatever, Richardson, Benson who could all possibly step up into our 1st team squad and do a job if required. Just because they havent cost us anything doesnt mean they wont be as good as an unknown spanish fullback B'mouth signed for 17million with about 3 games under his belt in a season.

My issue isnt as much not signing anyone but if we are happy to go with having 2/3 kids as part of the 1st team squad when required just say it. I know then there is the concern of expectation weighing heavily on the players shoulders but most arent 16 or even 19. They are 20 plus, sooner or later they will have to sink or swim and maybe that little push and hearing they are good enough will give them that extra bit of motivation needed to reach the top

I know Ibe is a popular stick to beat Bournemouth with but the reality is that he's made something like thirty appearances a season for them. He may not be great but he's not the huge failure that many suggest.

TsarBomba · Post by **TsarBomba** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:33 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Not disheartening at all. I just understand our club, the size of it and how difficult it is for us. The ones who have problems or who are disheartened are those who, in my view, are totally unrealistic.

Don’t think I don’t get just as frustrated as everyone else though but I do think that if we can keep our key players, and that’s a challenge in itself, and maybe now add a midfielder, it will have been a good window.

Spot on.

ewanrob · Post by **ewanrob** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:34 pm

Roll on Saturday 2.30pm, Pie & a Pint..sun out and Jim White long gone!

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:36 pm

ewanrob wrote:Roll on Saturday 2.30pm, Pie & a Pint..sun out and Jim White long gone!

Have you seen the forecast